Stolen Residence Permit
Dec 16th, 2015, 06:54 AM
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Stolen Residence Permit
I have a problem! I'm Russian, making my Master in Germany (have there residence permit). And now I make my exchange semester in Barcelona. A few days ago was stolen my wallet with this residence permit card inside. Problem is that I have flight 27 of December to Russia and 6 of January back to Barcelona. German consulate can not do anything here. they just send me the scan of my permit. But said that they can not guaranty that I will enter eu after. Does anybody had same or similar situation! Please I need advice!
Dec 16th, 2015, 01:08 PM
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Why didn't you go back to where you got the residence permit in the first place? There must be some option for getting one reissued in case of loss (although it is suspicous). Now it may be difficult to get one in only a few days, but still, that makes the most sense to me.
From what I read, you are supposed to get that from your local Alien Registration Office in your university town. Why didn't you go there?
From what I read, you are supposed to get that from your local Alien Registration Office in your university town. Why didn't you go there?
Dec 16th, 2015, 01:35 PM
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If I understand the poster correctly (and I am not sure I do), the residence permit was issued by the German government in Germany, and the poster is presently doing an exchange program in Barcelona. So it was not illogical of him to go to the German consul in Barcelona. It appears the German consulate has the ability to get a scan of the document, but not to produce an official government document.
Talking to your school administration and a lawyer might be helpful but I am also wondering: What happens if you cancel your trip to Russia? Is that possible? You'll still need to get a replacement document of course, and you will probably need to temporarily carry around not only the scan of it but other papers (like the Police report, your school enrollment, support from the Russian consulate -- whatever will help) but if you can't get more reassuring answers about your re-entry, consider spending the holidays in Barcelona until your residency permit issues are resolved.
All the best!
Talking to your school administration and a lawyer might be helpful but I am also wondering: What happens if you cancel your trip to Russia? Is that possible? You'll still need to get a replacement document of course, and you will probably need to temporarily carry around not only the scan of it but other papers (like the Police report, your school enrollment, support from the Russian consulate -- whatever will help) but if you can't get more reassuring answers about your re-entry, consider spending the holidays in Barcelona until your residency permit issues are resolved.
All the best!
Dec 16th, 2015, 09:08 PM
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Not that I don't think this a little strange, but one would think that, with a copy of the permit, a phone call to the issuing agency should take care of everything. But why the OP would bother to post on Fodors is a question.
If the OP doesn't have a visa, they will not be allowed back into the EU.
If the OP doesn't have a visa, they will not be allowed back into the EU.
Dec 17th, 2015, 02:01 AM
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Robert2533,
If you have such difficulty understanding other travelers, especially people who are not American, and know so little about travel documents (as your post indicates in spades), I'm left wondering why you hang out so much on a travel advice board.
If you have such difficulty understanding other travelers, especially people who are not American, and know so little about travel documents (as your post indicates in spades), I'm left wondering why you hang out so much on a travel advice board.
Dec 17th, 2015, 09:14 AM
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The "permit" is in fact an ID card with a chip. So a scan or copy will probably not be a full replacement.
From what the internet says, you need to contact the nearest office of the Federal Agency for Migration - in Germany, not Spain, obviously. And the replacement can take weeks, says the website.
http://www.bamf.de/RU/Startseite/startseite-node.html
What bugs me is that the consulate has been unable to give you guidance on how to proceed. THEY should know, and it may be best to contact them again and insist that they tell you what the next steps are. Or contact BAMF directly via the website if the consulate is too stupid. The problem is that regular ID documents like citizens' passports or ID cards are handled by a different authority in Germany than the one for perm or temp migration. So it *can* very well be that the consulates or embassies are unable to produce such documents.
From what the internet says, you need to contact the nearest office of the Federal Agency for Migration - in Germany, not Spain, obviously. And the replacement can take weeks, says the website.
http://www.bamf.de/RU/Startseite/startseite-node.html
What bugs me is that the consulate has been unable to give you guidance on how to proceed. THEY should know, and it may be best to contact them again and insist that they tell you what the next steps are. Or contact BAMF directly via the website if the consulate is too stupid. The problem is that regular ID documents like citizens' passports or ID cards are handled by a different authority in Germany than the one for perm or temp migration. So it *can* very well be that the consulates or embassies are unable to produce such documents.
