NYC 4 day itinerary

Old Jun 14th, 2014, 06:51 PM
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NYC 4 day itinerary

I got my hotel set thanks to you friends on this forum. Please help me a little with my plans. I will be in NYC 4.5 days. I plan on purchasing the NYC pass to see all 6 main attractions, but I would really appreciate any help with what to do on the same day. How long will we take on Ellis Island? I plan on walking to the top. Should we take the Long Island ferry after that? I read the views are good and it is free, but is it the same view as Ellis Island? If we take the ferry should we get off or just skip this? Is there something to do? I know the MOMA and Guggenheim museums are in the same part of town, as well as 30 rock but I dont know how much time to plan for each. Staying in Chelsea, so I want to shop and walk. Want to eat in Chinatown, have Korean barbecue, eat in Little Italy. Also want to shop in the big anchor stores. Go go go! I don't have good shopping where I live so I love to just walk and shop. Nothing high end. Any tip would help. Thanks so much! Also have to see a show or two if I can get any bargains.
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Old Jun 14th, 2014, 07:31 PM
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Few things

The best places in Little Italy are owned by this group:
http://www.majorfood.com/restaurants.php

MoMA is on 53rd Street and The Guggenheim is on 89st. MoMA is the best modern museum in the world and the permanent collection at The Guggenheim is disappointing.

Some of our favorites in Chelsea:
Donut Pub-old style indie donut store.
La Boqueria for tapas
Donut Plant-best freakin donuts in the city.
Cook Shop
Red Cat
City Bakery
and for something different-Taste of Persia.

Chinatown
Dim Sum-Jing Fung only during week, weekend zoo, best, most interesting cheap meal you will have in NY.
Noodletown
Joe's Ginger
and Chinatown Ice Cream Factory
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Old Jun 14th, 2014, 09:01 PM
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I think you are confusing Ellis Island with Liberty Island where visiting Lady Liberty, you may walk to the top,,,or at least as far as is allowed. You take the same ferry from the Battery to both Ellis Island (immigration museum) and the Statue of Liberty (Liberty Island)...you should buy tickets in advance for the ferry.

The Staten Island ferry,not the Long Island ferry is free...its 20 minutes each way, and you can get a view of the Statue of Liberty but if you are going to Libery Island, I would definitely skip this.

adding to the Chinatown list.. Joe's Shanghai..cash only and order the soup dumplings

30 Rock.. do you mean Rockefeller Center? its in midtown not far from MOMA...

the major department stores have evening hours so you can get there later in the day and still have time to shop .. they are also open on sat and sun

bargains for shows.. you can get discount tickets at the tkts booths.. or you can look at playbill.com, theatermania.com or broadwaybox.com for discount coupons that you can either order in advance with the fees or take to the box office, no fees and purchase your tickets..keep in mind that musicals are more expensive than plays and that off broadway is less expensive than broadway...
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What exactly are you planning to do with the nyc pass? the pass is not necessarily a good deal
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Old Jun 14th, 2014, 10:33 PM
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Yes as far as shopping is concerned, I do not know an American city with more independent stores than NYC, even though the invasion of mall stores is beginning to succeed.
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Old Jun 15th, 2014, 03:59 AM
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Oh you are right. I won't get the NYC pass. It contains Empire State Bldg, American Museum of Nat Hist, MOMA, Met Museum of Art, Top of Rock or Guggenheim, and Statue if Liberty or Circle Line Tours. Too many museums. Should I just go to MOMA? I'm not that big of an art head. I do want to go to the top of 30 Rock. Is that a waste of time? I will skip the Staten Island ferry since I'm going to Statue of Liberty. Where do you get tickets in advance? NYC was a last minute choice so I'm not that familiar with all the sights. Any advice would help. Thanks so much for the restaurant list in Chelsea. Awesome.
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Old Jun 15th, 2014, 05:21 AM
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The Top of the Rock - has great views of the entire city and you can schedule your visit for any time you want. I would go near dusk to see the city both in sunlight and lit up after dark.

As for museums - which are you interested in? MoMA is great if you like MODERN art. The Met has a much broader range of exhibits - and is the greatest cultural institution in the western hemisphere. I would go to the web site to see what interests you. I love the Costume Institute, The Egyptian Department and the Temple of Dendur and the Impressionists.

If you want to do Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island you need to allow 5 or 6 hours and MUST get tickets as far in advance as possible - or risk a ferry waiting line of more than an hour. You get tickets NOW from the web site of the National Park Service which runs Liberty Island.
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Old Jun 15th, 2014, 05:35 AM
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"Should I just go to MOMA? I'm not that big of an art head."

I think you answered your own question. I'll never understand why people who don't really care about art would go to an art museum (unless they WANT to be into art). There are plenty of things to do in NYC that might suit your taste rather than going somewhere because you feel you "should". It's like people insisting others go see a Broadway play even if they are bored with theatre and hate musicals.
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Old Jun 15th, 2014, 07:36 AM
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Well I sound stupid...right. I've been to the Borghese Gallery, Louvre and Musee 'D Orsay and several galleries in DC. I love to look at art and am trying to get more educated because my daughter is an artist ( on the side). I love history so I do like to see the most famous pieces like the Van Goghs, Monet...etc. I would certainly enjoy Broadway more for sure. I love musicals. I saw Wicked and Billy Elliott in London and was hooked. Never saw a drama though. If I wanted to get in a lottery for a good show like Hedwig, how do you do that? I just need help putting my days together basically.
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Old Jun 15th, 2014, 08:48 AM
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We went to MoMA with a friend and her then young teen daughters. We explained to them about certain artists their techniques, what might not be obvious on the canvas, and a tad about their lives, and the works became alive to them.

We had a 17 year old visitor from Spain and she wanted to go to the Met Museum and at her behest we spent more than two hours in just six rooms of Impressionists. I appreciated the Impressionists from their historical contribution, but studying them I found a new admiration for their art.

You never know how things will strike you.

You should ask your daughter to go on the MoMA site and choose a few works that she would like you to see. And instead of looking at what you like or feel comfortable with, you might have a different perspective.

I for one, would ask you to take a look at the later works of Chuck Close, a very close look. He is probably the most important living American artist and his work is that of a pure genius.
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Old Jun 15th, 2014, 10:19 AM
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The Impressionists are NOT at MoMA (too old to be "Modern") - they are at the Met. So if they are what you are interested in you need to go there. Suggest you go to the web site of each museum - to decide in advance what you want to see.

But if you want to explore more recent art MoMA is great
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Old Jun 15th, 2014, 12:09 PM
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There are many Impressionists at MoMA including a Water Lillies triptych by Monet, seminal Cezannes, Renoirs, and others.

If you go to this site and enter individual artists names you will see what is on exhibition.

http://www.moma.org/collection/theme.php?theme_id=10098
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"The Impressionists are NOT at MoMA"

Huh? Did you mean to just say "The MET has MORE impressionists than MOMA?" Or were you just trying to make some sort of joke.

I'm not sure about you, nytraveler, but I would normally classify the MOMAs collection including works my Monet, Manet, Pisarro, Renoir and many others as Impressionist. What do you call them.
In fact what would you call perhaps MOMA's most famous Impressionist painting -- Van Gogh's Starry Night?
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Old Jun 15th, 2014, 12:35 PM
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BTW, The Met has purchased the old Whitney and is planning to move it modern collections there. And we passed the new Whitney at the foot of High Line the other day, which is 250,000 sq ft, they are making significant progress.
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Van Gogh is generally considered to be a Post-Impressionist who was strongly influenced by Impressionists. Even Cezanne, who mentioned above can be considered a Post-Impressionist.
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Yes, but now you're getting way more technical than I think the person was asking for. In fact, unless I missed it, Chayes didn't use the term impressionists -- she specifically mentioned " I love history so I do like to see the most famous pieces like the Van Goghs, Monet...etc" and most people would classify those as Impressionists, in fact, I'm assuming that phrase is why nytraveler specifically mentioned The Impressionists. NO?

And MOMA gives listings of many paintings they classify as Impressionists or Post Impressionists.
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My post was general information not directed any one person.
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I totally understand your not being "that big an art head" comment. I enjoy it, just not enough to stare for hours. My daughter and I had a chance to experience The Guggenheim with our NYPass. 1/2 hour later we were on to the next experience. We even have coined a phrase for that pace of sightseeing because of that visit. We often "Guggenheim" our way through things.

The Met might appeal more to the history lover in you.

There are many free museums. Something for everyone. I have been to the American Indian Museum. It is in the Customs House and the building itself is fabulous. I enjoyed the Fashion Institute of Technology Museum. When I went they had a exhibition of shoes. Such cool shoes. Now through November they have History of Lingerie. oh-la-la
http://gonyc.about.com/od/museums/ss...ty-Museums.htm
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Old Jun 17th, 2014, 02:15 PM
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If I need to make reservations now to go to the Statue of Liberty, what would be the best day and time of day? We will be there Sun-Thurs
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A weekday first thing in the morning (get on the earliest ferry if you can - and be sure to get there as least 30 minutes before it leaves - since there is airline type security check to get on. If you get there first no lines to get into the base or climb up to the top.
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