smithe11

Hi,

I bought a one way ticket into germany and a rail pass. Will my rail pass (which includes turkey) satisfy german immigration that I intend on leaving the country? I could buy a cheap one way ticket out but I don't want to spend the money if I don't have to. I am planning on going to school in England, but I'm not sure that I will have been accepted by the time I get there.

Thanks for your help!

bigtyke

Where are you from? As a white American, I never had to show any return ticket.

dulciusexasperis

Asking a question without providing the relevant background info on which someone can base an answer isn't going to get you an answer.

What is your nationality? On what passport will you be travelling? Do you have ANY kind of criminal history? ie. DUI even. From where are you flying to Germany? What is the purpose of the rail pass? Are you going to do some travelling around before perhaps ending up in England IF you are accepted? What is your plan?

Without that information, NO ONE can answer you.

In general, the isse of 'proof of onward travel' is an issue with the AIRLINES boarding you. Often they will insist while Immigration of a country does not. So have you asked the airline on with whom you are booked, if they will board you?

Sue_xx_yy

I am no immigration expert - but I seem to recollect that Britain has different systems of admission for tourists versus students, etc. Yet you aren't a student yet, and depending on the school's response, you may not be. So as it stands, you may have more trouble with UK immigration. How far in advance of your trip will you know for sure? In the event you don't get accepted, how long do you plan to stay in Schengen area, how long in the UK? Have you done any necessary visa paperwork in conjunction with your schoolwork? Also, do you have a plan to finance that education, or at least living expenses? It all sounds very vague, not reassuring to any immigration officer.

I think you need to do some more homework on the schooling aspect.

janisj

>>As a white American, I never had to show any return ticket.<<

Which in the scheme of things means nothing. Many American <i>have</i> been asked for RT tix, proof of a connection requiring return home (like college acceptance, steady job, etc.).

smithe11: no one on here knows whether you need to buy a return ticket - maybe, maybe not. But if you fit a certain demographic - young, traveling on a shoe string budget, etc - the chances of being queried will go up. There is also a chance (slim but possible) that your originating airline won't let you fly. If they think you won't be allowed to enter Schengen, they can/will deny you boarding.

Question - how will you get a UK school visa if you are traveling when you are accepted?

smithe11

I apologize. I wasn't sure what information was needed.

LEt me answer these questions. I really appreciate you all taking the time to help me.

1) I am a US citizen.
2) Traveling on a US passport
3) I have no criminal history
4) My ticket goes from Boston to Zurich to Stuttgart
5) I have the rail pass because I plan on travelling around Europe. If I get accepted I will go to england, if not I will buy a ticket back to the US.

I had not asked the airline, I will call and ask them. Thank you for that suggestion.

janisj

we were all posting at the same time. . .

janisj

>>If I get accepted I will go to england, <<

W/o a visa?

smithe11

Let me answer a couple of more questions.

I ought to know if I got in before I leave, but it is possible that the response will be delayed.

If I don't get in to the school, I will leave within 3 months.

smithe11

Yep. We were posting at the same time. I would apply for a visa. If I don't have an answer before I leave, then I was planning on applying for the visa in Germany, I have family there. Do you think that would be a problem?

janisj

>>If I don't have an answer before I leave, then I was planning on applying for the visa in Germany, I have family there. Do you think that would be a problem?<<

First of all - having family in Schengen could be another strike against you - a reason you might overstay.

You need to apply for the visa from your home country. From the UK Border agency website:

>>As part of your application, you will need to enrol your biometric information (unless you are exempt from this requirement) at one of the Application Support Centers throughout the USA. These are managed by the US Citizenship and Immigration Services. They are not involved in the decision-making process and cannot influence the decision on your visa application. When you have given your biometric information at one of these centers, you will need to submit your application to the UK Border Agency in New York.<<

jamikins

It could be - I am not certain but you may need to apply from your home country...

jamikins

What Janis said

smithe11

Alright. Thank you for all the information. If I don't hear back from the universities before I go, then I will buy a ticket to be on the safe side. I can afford to fly back for the visa and then back to the UK. It's a bit of a waste, but that's what I get for not asking these questions before buying my ticket. Thanks again for all of your help.

lincasanova

I t might be cheaper to buy a round trip from Germany back to US than a one way and not use the other half or use it to get back to England to study

dulciusexasperis

Now you need to put some timing info into the mix.

Have you applied to a UK Univeristy? If so, when and how long did they indicate it takes before you could expect an answer?

What date is your ticket to Stuttgart for? Is it a ticket with a connecting flight or is it two separate flights? Is it a full fare refundable ticket; refundable with a penalty; totally non-refundable?

On approximately what date would you start at the University if accepted?

Your getting SOME answers that you are responding to but they may NOT necessarily give you the best picture yet. You've still left out information.

Depending on timing, it may make sense to cancel the ticket and re-schedule. It may make sense to go ahead with your one way ticket and enter as a tourist (there is no need to mention anything to do with future student expectations after all). It may be possible to apply for a visa now, do the biometrics and still leave on your one way ticket and have the visa sent to you in Germany.

There are still too many variables to reach any logical conclusions on the information provided so far.

dulciusexasperis

That should have been 'unknown' variables at the end of my comments.

Tarja

On June 17, 2014 my son and I wanted to fly from San Diego to Helsinki, Finland using our US passports on Jet Blue airways, but were refused because we had booked a one-way ticket only. Luckily, we are also Finnish citizens, so I asked can we fly on our Finnish passports? No problem. My son has a 3-months internship here and I am visiting my mother. After the 3-months, my son wants to travel around Europe on a railway pass... but at some point we'll want to return. I wonder which passport to use when returning and will there be any difficulties in immigration?

jpie

We are dual US French nationals and when we travel we enter Europe on our French passport and then when we return we use our US passports. And we often buy one way tickets since we stay a fairly long period of time. We haven't had a problem to date and having been doing this way the past 10 years or so at least.

I do know with biometric passports etc. things are getting tougher but I don't think he will have a problem.

dotheboyshall

Surely if you get accepted at a school in England then you will have to apply for a visa FROM YOUR HOME COUNTRY