Trenitalia Begins Uploading New Train Schedules
Oct 18th, 2013, 03:39 AM
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Trenitalia Begins Uploading New Train Schedules
Today, Trenitalia announces that the new schedules taking effect December 15, 2014 have BEGUN to be uploaded to the website, and will continue to upload over the next several weeks. As of the moment, 220 long/medium distance trains can be booked beyond December 14.
Competitor ITALO TRENO began uploading new schedules about a week ago.
Competitor ITALO TRENO began uploading new schedules about a week ago.
Oct 18th, 2013, 05:03 AM
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I'm sure GAC does mean December 2013. There will be another schedule change in early June 2014 (summer schedules) which will run until December 2014. So you won't see anything definite for October 2014 until at least April/May 2014.
Oct 18th, 2013, 07:23 AM
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I wish that I could correct my posting above to reflect the date of December 15, 2013!
You can only book RESERVED trains up to FOUR MONTHS in advance, so it's still far too early to book trains for October 2014.
You can only book RESERVED trains up to FOUR MONTHS in advance, so it's still far too early to book trains for October 2014.
Oct 19th, 2013, 05:41 AM
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>>>jan47ete on Oct 18, 13 at 8:49am
Do you mean December 15, 2013? Reason I ask is we are traveling in Oct 2014 and are very interested in train schedules now for that trip.<<<
Schedules are for six months and change twice a year - the second weekend in Dec. until the second weekend in June is the winter schedule. June to Dec. is considered the summer schedule. Mid-June 2014 will let you book 120 days out (mid Oct.) on Trenitalia for the fast trains. Italo will let you book 6 months out once they get their summer 2014 schedules loaded. Italo only operates between major cities in Italy and uses alternate stations in Rome and Milan.
Do you mean December 15, 2013? Reason I ask is we are traveling in Oct 2014 and are very interested in train schedules now for that trip.<<<
Schedules are for six months and change twice a year - the second weekend in Dec. until the second weekend in June is the winter schedule. June to Dec. is considered the summer schedule. Mid-June 2014 will let you book 120 days out (mid Oct.) on Trenitalia for the fast trains. Italo will let you book 6 months out once they get their summer 2014 schedules loaded. Italo only operates between major cities in Italy and uses alternate stations in Rome and Milan.
Nov 2nd, 2013, 04:45 AM
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NEW TRENITALIA SCHEDULES NOT COMPLETELY UPLOADED YET
A Trenitalia press release last Thursday October 31 states that TWO THIRDS of the new schedules have now been posted to the Trenitalia website for travel on and after December 15, 2013.
This means that you must still exercise some caution when searching the website schedules beyond December 14: don't be fooled if you see just a few trains on certain routes, as this may simply mean that full schedules have not yet been uploaded. In particular, full schedules for the Intercity and unreserved regionale trains get uploaded last.
To verify, compare schedules THROUGH December 14. The new schedules should not be hugely different.
Full new schedules should appear prior to December 15.
A Trenitalia press release last Thursday October 31 states that TWO THIRDS of the new schedules have now been posted to the Trenitalia website for travel on and after December 15, 2013.
This means that you must still exercise some caution when searching the website schedules beyond December 14: don't be fooled if you see just a few trains on certain routes, as this may simply mean that full schedules have not yet been uploaded. In particular, full schedules for the Intercity and unreserved regionale trains get uploaded last.
To verify, compare schedules THROUGH December 14. The new schedules should not be hugely different.
Full new schedules should appear prior to December 15.
Nov 2nd, 2013, 08:57 AM
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I need to get a Regional train from Milano Centrale, and it looks like I can purchase this ticket online up to one week in advance. Is this true? I've never done this before, and I assume you get some sort of print out? When I get to the train station, what do I need to do? Thank you.
Nov 2nd, 2013, 09:32 AM
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There is no need or point to purchase a regional ticket online. There are more restrictions on the ticket if you do. Just buy it at the station. There are no discounts on regional tickets, no reserved seating, often only one class and they don't sell out. When you get to the station, use a ticket machine (there will be rows of them). Touch screen with instructions in English.
Nov 2nd, 2013, 09:40 AM
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wesley - On this link, keep scrolling down and there are screen by screen instructions (with pictures) of using the ticket machines in the station.
http://www.roninrome.com/%20transpor...ickets-updated
What is your destination?
http://www.roninrome.com/%20transpor...ickets-updated
What is your destination?
Nov 2nd, 2013, 09:53 AM
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Thank you, kybourbon. I've used the machines at Centrale before. They drive me nuts, and I don't enjoy using them (if I don't have to). Too many people in too tight an area, too many thugs looking for tips, and too much stress trying to keep an eye on my luggage (I carry heavy, expensive items).
It would be very convenient for me to go directly from the Maplensa Express bus to my train on the track. I will have plenty of time to make the train. The ticket is only 6 euro. I'd pay 20 euro for the convenience of having the ticket on me.
It would be very convenient for me to go directly from the Maplensa Express bus to my train on the track. I will have plenty of time to make the train. The ticket is only 6 euro. I'd pay 20 euro for the convenience of having the ticket on me.
Nov 2nd, 2013, 11:25 AM
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I just read Ron's updated instructions. I read that page many years ago to acquaint myself with the process. That's a good resource.
Ron says all you need is the PNR to board the train, and that's the convenience I'm looking for. Thank you for the updated link.
Ron says all you need is the PNR to board the train, and that's the convenience I'm looking for. Thank you for the updated link.
Nov 2nd, 2013, 12:19 PM
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That updated link is several years old so it isn't entirely accurate. Buy your ticket at the airport and you won't have to worry about it at Centrale, but if it's been several years since you've been there, they've remodeled a bit and added a lot of ticket machines.
If you would list your destination, it might be possible your ticket can be bought on Trenord.
>>>Ron says all you need is the PNR to board the train, and that's the convenience I'm looking for. Thank you for the updated link.<<<
I didn't see that mentioned at all as most of the tickets purchased in the pics were for fast trains that have assigned seats until you got to the pics of the old style machines. In fact, he states you must validate your ticket track side before boarding for the regional ticket.
The problem with buying tickets for regional trains online is they are for a specific time range and have a shorter duration time than the same ticket bought from any store with the Trenitalia logo or from the machines.
If you would list your destination, it might be possible your ticket can be bought on Trenord.
>>>Ron says all you need is the PNR to board the train, and that's the convenience I'm looking for. Thank you for the updated link.<<<
I didn't see that mentioned at all as most of the tickets purchased in the pics were for fast trains that have assigned seats until you got to the pics of the old style machines. In fact, he states you must validate your ticket track side before boarding for the regional ticket.
The problem with buying tickets for regional trains online is they are for a specific time range and have a shorter duration time than the same ticket bought from any store with the Trenitalia logo or from the machines.
Nov 2nd, 2013, 01:55 PM
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I'm going to Varenna, so it looks like Trenord could work as well for purchase.
I've tried to purchase train tickets at Malpensa for the past four years, but the Airport 2000 booth outside of international baggage claim stopped issuing tickets in 2007. They always tell me "train station" when I try to attempt a purchase each visit. Please, if you know of a convenient place to purchase train tickets at Malpensa, I'm all ears.
You have to go to Ron's PNR link to read about the PNR instructions. For people buying tickets online, Ron offers a different page of directions.
http://www.roninrome.com/transportat...-on-trenitalia
He said most Italians show their smartphones, with the PNR listed in an email. Ron prefers to carry the paper printout.
I'm aware of the timing issues associated with regional tickets purchased online. Those issues don't affect me. If for some act of God reason my non-stop flight was delayed for several hours, I wouldn't care much about the 6.50 loss.
I've tried to purchase train tickets at Malpensa for the past four years, but the Airport 2000 booth outside of international baggage claim stopped issuing tickets in 2007. They always tell me "train station" when I try to attempt a purchase each visit. Please, if you know of a convenient place to purchase train tickets at Malpensa, I'm all ears.
You have to go to Ron's PNR link to read about the PNR instructions. For people buying tickets online, Ron offers a different page of directions.
http://www.roninrome.com/transportat...-on-trenitalia
He said most Italians show their smartphones, with the PNR listed in an email. Ron prefers to carry the paper printout.
I'm aware of the timing issues associated with regional tickets purchased online. Those issues don't affect me. If for some act of God reason my non-stop flight was delayed for several hours, I wouldn't care much about the 6.50 loss.
Nov 2nd, 2013, 06:05 PM
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Supposedly you can buy Trenord tickets the same place you buy your Malpensa Express ticket - Terminal 1. Malpensa Express is Trenord.
Anyway, you can buy on the Trenord website more than a week in advance (60 days), but they have the same four hour restriction window.
http://www.trenord.it/en/tickets/tickets.aspx
Anyway, you can buy on the Trenord website more than a week in advance (60 days), but they have the same four hour restriction window.
http://www.trenord.it/en/tickets/tickets.aspx
Nov 2nd, 2013, 06:15 PM
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FWIW - Like Trenitalia, they don't have their winter schedules loaded yet so you can't book past the 2nd weekend in Dec. until they get them loaded. Otherwise, you should be able to book 60 days out once they do.
Nov 3rd, 2013, 06:20 AM
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"Supposedly you can buy Trenord tickets the same place you buy your Malpensa Express ticket - Terminal 1."
The Airport 2000 kiosk is the only agency booth in the terminal, just past baggage claim, that I know of. This is where you purchase Malpensa Express bus tickets. I've been to Varenna for numerous business trips. In 2006, I was able to purchase Eurostar and Regional tickets there. In 2008 and 2010, not possible. I tried to get a reason why, no luck. I don't speak Italian. It is possible that train tickets are being sold there again. With internet purchase, I don't need to endure any surprises. The regional trains run almost every hour to Varenna, so the four hour window seems generous. Purchasing the Regional ticket one day before I depart is OK by me. I also need a Eurostar ticket, but I'll try to buy that as soon as those dates are available. Thank you for the help.
The Airport 2000 kiosk is the only agency booth in the terminal, just past baggage claim, that I know of. This is where you purchase Malpensa Express bus tickets. I've been to Varenna for numerous business trips. In 2006, I was able to purchase Eurostar and Regional tickets there. In 2008 and 2010, not possible. I tried to get a reason why, no luck. I don't speak Italian. It is possible that train tickets are being sold there again. With internet purchase, I don't need to endure any surprises. The regional trains run almost every hour to Varenna, so the four hour window seems generous. Purchasing the Regional ticket one day before I depart is OK by me. I also need a Eurostar ticket, but I'll try to buy that as soon as those dates are available. Thank you for the help.
Nov 3rd, 2013, 07:28 AM
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>>>Purchasing the Regional ticket one day before I depart is OK by me. <<<
Yes, but while Trenitalia only allows regional online purchases within 7 days, Trenord sells them 60 days out.
From my Trenord link above:
****ONLINE TICKETS
SINGLE TICKETS, origin-destination, for 2nd class travel valid on the entire railway network can be purchased online, using the timetable search option on the home page of this site.
Validity: the ticket is valid exclusively for the route and in the direction indicated; the ticket is valid for 4 hours after the date and time indicated on the ticket [and, in any case, not after service hours]; online tickets are non-refundable.
Validation: is not required.
Purchasing tickets: tickets may be purchased during the 60 days following the search performed for the journey, right up to the train's departure time.
Ticket inspection: as proof****
Trenord also lists these options for buying tickets in Malpensa airport terminal #1:
***MALPENSA AEROPORTO
Aeroporto Terminal 1 Ferno VA
Biglietteria Orario feriale Orario sabato Orario festivo
6:00 / 21:20 6:00 / 21:20 6:00 / 21:20
Distributori automatici, Tariffa unica regionale, Ricarica tessere elettroniche ***
Translates to ticket office and opening hours (feriale - work days, sabato - Saturday, festivo - Sunday/holidays).
The second part means there are also vending machines to buy tickets.
>>>This is where you purchase Malpensa Express bus tickets.<<<
To be clear, Malpensa Express is the express train from the airport to central Milan and is operated by Trenord. The Malpensa Shuttle (note - no express in the name) is a bus service from Malpensa airport to Milan. Two entirely different companies and services.
http://www.malpensaexpress.it/en/
http://www.malpensashuttle.it/e-index2.php
Yes, but while Trenitalia only allows regional online purchases within 7 days, Trenord sells them 60 days out.
From my Trenord link above:
****ONLINE TICKETS
SINGLE TICKETS, origin-destination, for 2nd class travel valid on the entire railway network can be purchased online, using the timetable search option on the home page of this site.
Validity: the ticket is valid exclusively for the route and in the direction indicated; the ticket is valid for 4 hours after the date and time indicated on the ticket [and, in any case, not after service hours]; online tickets are non-refundable.
Validation: is not required.
Purchasing tickets: tickets may be purchased during the 60 days following the search performed for the journey, right up to the train's departure time.
Ticket inspection: as proof****
Trenord also lists these options for buying tickets in Malpensa airport terminal #1:
***MALPENSA AEROPORTO
Aeroporto Terminal 1 Ferno VA
Biglietteria Orario feriale Orario sabato Orario festivo
6:00 / 21:20 6:00 / 21:20 6:00 / 21:20
Distributori automatici, Tariffa unica regionale, Ricarica tessere elettroniche ***
Translates to ticket office and opening hours (feriale - work days, sabato - Saturday, festivo - Sunday/holidays).
The second part means there are also vending machines to buy tickets.
>>>This is where you purchase Malpensa Express bus tickets.<<<
To be clear, Malpensa Express is the express train from the airport to central Milan and is operated by Trenord. The Malpensa Shuttle (note - no express in the name) is a bus service from Malpensa airport to Milan. Two entirely different companies and services.
http://www.malpensaexpress.it/en/
http://www.malpensashuttle.it/e-index2.php
Nov 3rd, 2013, 08:10 AM
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Sorry, I meant to say Malpensa Shuttle when I wrote Malpensa Express. I've never used the Malpensa Express train.
There may be train ticket machines upon exit from baggage claim at Malpensa now. I will certainly look for them and make a note. They weren't there last time I was there, which I assume is why I was told "stazione centrale."
In my experience, the writing on the Italian websites doesn't always correspond with reality. In other words, you can't count on it. However, with the ability to purchase tickets on the internet, a traveler can now bypass all these sidesteps and simply go directly to the train. That's what I call convenience.
There may be train ticket machines upon exit from baggage claim at Malpensa now. I will certainly look for them and make a note. They weren't there last time I was there, which I assume is why I was told "stazione centrale."
In my experience, the writing on the Italian websites doesn't always correspond with reality. In other words, you can't count on it. However, with the ability to purchase tickets on the internet, a traveler can now bypass all these sidesteps and simply go directly to the train. That's what I call convenience.
