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Old Nov 2nd, 2011, 09:49 AM
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This is enough time in NYC? a little help?

This is enough time in NYC? Can I squeeze in more things?

Day 1:
Thanksgiving parade
Madison Sq
Central Park (Will there be bikes for us to rent on thanksgiving day?)

Day 2:
SOL
9/11
Chrysler Building
Empire State Building at night

(Could I fit anything else in Day 2?)

Day 3:
Brooklyn
Green village

(Could I fit anything else in Day 3?)

Day 4:
Times Sq
Flight leaves at 6pm

(Could I fit anything else in Day 4?)


Oh man I am so excited to go to NYC.. this is my first time !!!
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You are choosing almost all outdoor activities. What if it is raining or snowing?

When you write Brooklyn, what specificly are you referring to?

Personally, I would just take the Staten Island Ferry and pass by the Statue of Liberty. You have little time as it is?

What else do you like to do?
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Sorry the name is Greenwich Village.

And what do you want to see at the Chrysler Building?
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As Aduchamp suggests, the Chrysler Building (which is my favorite building) is a "walk by".

Since the SOL crown is closed for repairs, I would also suggest just viewing it from afar. If you want to see something interesting, go on to Ellis Island instead.

Likewise, if you're at all interested in the immigrant experience, make time for the Tenement Museum, and have lunch at Katz' Deli nearby.

If the weather is nice, walk, walk and walk some more. Don't just hop from site to site -- New York is so much more.

What is "Madison Sq." and why do you want to go there?
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At least once in your life you should see the Radio City Christmas show featuring the Rockettes. http://www.radiocitychristmas.com/newyork/index.html
Check the progress on new WTC site.
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Old Nov 2nd, 2011, 01:11 PM
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I'd avoid Katz's Deli like the plague.
The place is dirty and the food is terrible.
When last stopped with friends from out-of-town, it didn't take 5/min to see how run downn and we were out of there. Even though friends bought a frank and knish (just to know what it should/could be), they were vile.

There are better choices for really good deli.
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Old Nov 2nd, 2011, 01:18 PM
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We had delicious food at Katz'...and it certainly isn't run down.
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Old Nov 2nd, 2011, 01:25 PM
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So did I - I couldn't disagree more sandi.
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Although I like 2nd Ave Deli better, at no time did I ever find Katz's vile and and dirty.

Although the floor and ceiling are old, they are certainly not in disrepair or dirty.

Additionally, I just looked up Katz's grade by the NYC Dept of Health and they received an "A."
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I'd say just see the SOL from the water. It takes a lot of extra time to go there, get thru security, etc. It's an awesome sight from the water.

Yes, day 3- how about a broadway show?
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Old Nov 2nd, 2011, 03:41 PM
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With so many fabulous museums in NYC, you're not even planning to visit one?
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Old Nov 2nd, 2011, 04:07 PM
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If you check out my trip report, I think you will find you could fit quite a bit more in if you wanted. For indoor stuff, try The Frick or The Metropolitan Museum of Art or The Morgan Library or Eataly. Well, I think you get the idea. Have fun.

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The Statue of Liberty is closed - you can only see the outside - so it doesn't make a lot of sense to go to all the trouble of getting ferry tickets and then visiting. Instead, take the free Staten Island ferry - which gets you a reasonable close view and a great view of the NYC skyline on the way back. The RT takes about 1.5 hours.

As for Brooklyn - this is a whole county with a population of more than 2 million people and dozens of neighborhoods. What do you want to see there.

As for Thanksgiving - many restaurants are closed - so if you want a traditional dinner you should reserve that now. Central Park is always open, but I doubt that the bike rental is. In any case you can;t see much of the park by bike - since you must stay in the very few official roads - you aren;t allowed to ride a bike on the sidewalks or paths in the park.

I think you want to look at some indoor activities (perhaps some of he incredible museums) if you get days with rain or sleet - or even snow.
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cali88 , the suggestions here are all over the place because your plan is very vague. There so much to do in NYC!

For example

Day 1:
Thanksgiving parade
Madison Sq
Central Park (Will there be bikes for us to rent on thanksgiving day?)

The parade can take up one hour of your time, or 5 hours, It's up to you.
Do you mean Madison Square Garden, To see a concert or sports event or are you planning on a tour? Or do you mean walking around Madison Square Park, a small park in a different neighborhood

Day 2:
SOL
9/11
Chrysler Building
Empire State Building at night

As others have said, going to the SOL can take half a day and the entire statue (not just the crown, but the pedestal too) is now closed for renovation. The Staten Island Ferry ride people suggest will take about one hour, Visiting the 9/11 memorial (do you have tickets) might be another hour
(Could I fit anything else in Day 2?)--YES

Day 3:
Brooklyn
Green village

Brooklyn is bigger than most American cities. What do you want to see, Is it just walking the Brooklyn Bridge? About one hour,
Greenwich Village is a neighborhood,you could spend one hour, or eat and shop and take a walking tour and spend 4 or 5 hours

(Could I fit anything else in Day 3?)--YES

Day 4:
Times Sq
Flight leaves at 6pm

Just to look around Times Square (Better after dark,on another day for the full effect)can be 15 minutes or it oculd be hours to walk and shop.

(Could I fit anything else in Day 4?)--YES

Since many of these are outdoor activities, you should be prepared to change your plans based on the weather. You do not want to be walking across the Brooklyn Bridge on a cold rainy day
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take a walk up 5th, go to the Plaza Hotel for a drink, take a carriage ride, go to Bloomies, Juniors Restaurant in the Theater District is always a good time and lively, upscale places: Del Friscos, Ruth Chris steakhouse, The Rainbow Room
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Ruth Chris is a chain of moderately good steaks/big meats. Del Friscos similar. The Rainbow Room had been closed for years - and even when open catered to the Medicare crowd.

If you provide a budget (in $) and what types of food you like/dislike people can make recos for non-chain places with excellent fresh food.
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Actually, the OP didn't ask about food at all, just an itinerary review
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Junior's is actually a horrible restaurant that serves wonderful cheesecake and a few other pastries.
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I will echo those who disagree vehemently with sandi's negative assessment of Katz's Deli above, now the second time this poster has offered up such an opinion in this forum recently:

-the place is old, but I have never, ever seen it dirty.

-the pastrami (juicy) sandwich on rye with brown mustard is the best sandwich I have ever had. Anywhere. Period.

Katz's and 2nd Avenue Deli are the two "musts" for NYC deli as far as I'm concerned. I've also been to the Carnegie, Stage Deli, Ben's, Artie's, Sarge's, and Barney Greengrass, and they simply don't in my experience measure up to these two.

Re the OP's proposed itinerary, I think good advice is being offered here.

And given how many worthy local places there are, I'm hard-pressed to see a good reason to eat at a national chain in NYC unless forced to by overbearing kids or some such. Folks, New York, New Orleans, and San Francisco are three of the biggest food destinations in the US, and I say do a little homework and take advantage.
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Old Nov 8th, 2011, 05:15 AM
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Brooklyn -

If you walk across the Brooklyn Bridge (fabulous), from Manhattan towards Brooklyn, you will end up in Brooklyn Heights. This is a wonderful brownstone neighborhood from the late 1800's. I would suggest a walk around the neighborhood. It's wonderfully charming. There's a riverfront promenade which affords great views. Also, ask someone how to walk from the bridge or anywhere in Brooklyn Heights, to the DUMBO neighborhood (stands for: Down Under the Manhattan Brooklyn Overpass). It's a re-invigorated former factory building area. Very high priced condos now. But, it has a wonderful park and yummy Jacques Torres Chocolate Shop along with other very different types of shops. About 10 minutes walking from Brooklyn Heights.

This 3-4 hour stroll will give you a different point of view of NYC. (Very different from Times Square.)
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