San Francisco GTG Friday, October 24.

I so wish I could come up! We arrive on Oct 22 from our trip back east and I just do not see it as possible. Someday!

I am sure it will be big fun!

My wife will be out of town then, but I'll be there. We're leaving for a 3 week vacation this Friday, so don't expect any communication from me until we get back (Oct 12).

Stu Dudley

Sounds like fun. Count me in.

Oh rats, I'd love to come, but we're going to be out of town. Post a report and photos, please!

Maybe this time I won't expose the shots to sunlight like I'd done before

I'll be there! Maybe Mr. Kat can come, too!

Sure. We'll be IN SF from Monday the 20th and leaving on Saturday the 25th of October.

Friday night is fine -- Oct. 24th.

We're staying at Columbus Motor Inn between FW and North Beach (unless I get lucky later on with Priceline, but I'm not holding my breath). But we're open to any place at all.

Well, now that just stinks. We're planning on San Francisco Oct 9-12. Geez.

Have fun!

BeachGirl, just start another thread for another GTG, we can take as many as we can get

Thanks, Faina, could you put me down as a "maybe" since I am going out of the country the week after?

Me as a maybe, too. I will definitely try. I would love to meet the famous King Neo!

"Thanks, Faina, could you put me down as a "maybe" since I am going out of the country the week after?"

Gee, Shanghainese, you shouldn't feel you'll have to leave the country. I don't think we'll get THAT rowdy!

Well I am planning on coming. cat-get your tickets now. LAX has $49 fares each way flying into Oakland.

LoveItaly-Let me know if you need to work out transportation issues.

Hi Faina, Patrick and Paula! I will email you Paula.

And cat, it will be so good to see you again. Wish Dawn could join us but hopefully that will work out in the future. And LucieV, you better be at the GTG my dear!

Lucie, you've got to be there!

I just need to decide if I want to come up for the day or stay overnight. Bring Mr. Kat or come solo? Buy another pair of sexy pumps at Cole Haan or try somewhere else?

Oh dear, there are just too many things to think about!

cat when do you get back from France?

Lovie, I can't wait!

Dawn, you can do it. What's a little more jet lag?

Yes:
Cat
Faina
Linda
Patrick and Lee
Paula
Stu Dudley

Maybe:
Lucie
Shanghainese

Hey, that's nice! Sure, more will join us.

Faina, I'm trying to decide my flight. I don't think Mr. Kat can come so I'll be solo. Any idea of the time? Would it be unrealistic to try to fly home that night?

I will definitely try. Right now, I'm a freaking wreck with my worst-ever case of pre-trip jitters. If I were the type to break out in a rash, my body would be covered.
Leaving in less than 24 hours, I can barely put one foot in front of the other, let alone figure out where I'm going to be on October 24. God, I wish I could, for once, leave for a trip without having a nervous breakdown.

Anyway, I know the 24th will be a blast, and I will do my best to join youse guys.

Lucie - hate to say it but glad someone else gets really bad pre-trip jitters

You will be fine and the trip will be great!

Thanks, MomDD, I appreciate your saying that. I'm feeling really ashamed of myself. I even googled "Pre-trip jitters." I wish I weren't me sometimes.

But we're glad you're you, LuceLu! Btw, where all are you going and when are you getting home?

Yes we want to know about your trip.

Gosh Lucie - really I get them so bad I have been known to cancel trips...seriously. or change dates..last Oct we were supposed to be at a wedding for a long weekend - we still went (dh MADE me go) but we compromised and left a day later and came home a day ealier..seriously stuff like that. I am horrible about leaving my daughter...

I purchased an earthquake kit for 100.00 and made sure it was here before we left ... this is true stuff ...we had been having some pretty good shake, rattles and roles and I was certain something would happen while we were in NYC.

It is only really bad when I am leaving dd or leaving dh... when I am going alone it is not as bad (leaving dd WITH dh)...

I started taking drugs to fly about 18 months ago - it helps... Xanax...

I have decided maybe I was a really good travel agent. I like PLANNING trips but maybe not taking them??? LOL

I have started to get phobic already about just going back east with dd for two weeks... I think it is not as bad because I was planning Europe with her and that seemed HUGE...and now it is like..okay... we can do this ...

Anyway...email me...anytime - Karens gets the gitters pretty bad too from what I recall

We could start our own 12 step program... "hi my name is Dawn, and I am a travel lover who is also a travel phobic!" LOL

BTW, I generally do fine about 48 hours into my trip.

Now..back to your gtg thread

MomDD, will em you tonight or in the am bf I leave. Thank you so much...I am reassured now: either I'm not crazy, or you're just as crazy as I am. Either way, I'm not alone.

If I don't fall over from overwork--can I join, too?

Please do, TrvlMvn!

Looks like Mr. Kat is a yes, so Faina, please add him.

We'll look for a place to stay near FW, too. Suggestions? I'm not all that familiar with the area. If we fly into Oakland, is there a way to take BART to FW area?

Hi Cat - I am not going but yes, you can take the BART - ds and I did it a few times to look at schools for him in S.F. we flew on JetBlue into Oakland.

If FW is Fisherman's Wharf - BART does not go near there.

Stu Dudley

hmmm... ds and I flew to Oakland and took the BART and stayed at the Hyatt FW (I am also assuming it is Fisherman's Warf?) We definately took the BART because I wanted him to get use to it before moving there for school (which he never did obviously)...

BART runs down Market Street - which is not close to the Wharf. It's too far for most people to walk from the Embarcadero station (with luggege) to the Wharf.

Stu Dudley

I am sure you are correct Stu -

I have only been a handful of times and think that we may have taken the BART into SF and then got a cab if we needed to - I cannot imagine me walking with my luggage that far... It was about 2 years or so ago.. I will ask ds - doubtful he remembers either though.

I do know we definately took the BART into SF - once we got off the BART and how we got to the Hyatt seems to be the ???

BART is not going to Fishermen's area. You can either take a shuttle or find a hotel in Embarcadero or Union Square south or east.

MomDD, was it Hyatt Embarcadero, and you walked to Fishermen's later without luggage, just for fun?

Updated list:

Yes:
Cat and Mr Cat
Faina
Linda
Patrick and Lee
Paula
Stu Dudley
Trvl Maven

Maybe:
Lucie
Shanghainese

Faina..it sure could have been..it has been a LONG two plus years... my mind is fuzzy...

Okay... I talked to ds and he does remember. We stayed by Fisherman's warf. We got off the BART and had NO way of getting to the hotel and he remembers being annoyed at me for not having any idea what I was doing. We ended up finding a cab and taking it to the hotel.

there you have it. Sorry for the misinformation! I hate it when people post the wrong thing.

"and he remembers being annoyed at me for not having any idea what I was doing" - MomDD, as a mother of 2 adult sons, I'm telling ya, it's time for payback

cat-I thought I had your email address and tried to email you. Wanted to talk to you about doing something during the day on Friday if you are coming up a little earlier. My email is paulambrandt@yahoo.com.

If you don't mind an old retired guy, I would like to attend. Please put me down as a maybe.
Thanks,
Roger

Oh, Lucie !
You're in good company with those pre-travel jitters - I know me and the 24 hours before - yet once we walk out the front door, I'm better-hope you get to relax and have a grand time on your trip !

Bon Voyage, sweetie

R5

Updated list:

Yes:
Cat and Mr Cat
Faina
Linda
Patrick and Lee
Paula
Stu Dudley
Trvl Maven

Maybe:
Lucie
Roger
Shanghainese

Anybody has restaurant suggestions? Preferrably not expensive, we've had people cancelling before if the prices were hight.

Maybe close to public transportation? Anybody taking BART?

Hey, if you think I'll pick a restaurant for you, I'll go with Daffodil (or maybe it's not funny?)

Thank you, King Neo, I'm a shanghai lady on the demure side although I've been mistaken for a male due to my writing style. Only last week when I was vilified on the Asia board by a foul mouth, a british gent commented on me as "he can certainly stand up for himself"!

Cat -- I think you should be looking for something else than shoes if Mr Kat is coming, something sparkling, hint, hint.

I will BART in from the East Bay.

Shanghainese, that is a good idea!

Although my red pumps were such a hit, it will be hard to pass up the Cole Haan store. Of course, if we are in FW, it might be easier to pass it up since it won't be as close.

Paula, I'll email you tomorrow! We may actually drive up, though. We'll see...

Cat -- You are demure too, I was hinting about Tiffany!

I know. I'm that rare girl that isn't turned on by Tiffany's.

Sexy shoes, though....hold me back!

Cat, Take Bart from the Oakland Airport(shuttle to Bart).

Take the Embarcadero Bart stop in San Francisco.

Walk to the Embarcadero, (two blocks), then hop on the F line (muni). It will take you to FW area.

Well I bought my plane ticket so I am coming for sure. Can't wait to see everyone!!

Do we have a where and when yet?

Not yet. Waiting for suggestions.

Thanks Susie.

Anyone have tips for a good hotel near FW? Something nice but doesn't have to be super fancy...

cat, we're staying at Columbus Motor Inn, between FW and North Beach -- best part is it has FREE parking if you're driving.
I've not stayed there before, but have stayed at their "sister" Cow Hollow Motor Inn. Nice, average large rooms -- more comfortable than fancy.

AAA rates are something like $120 a night.

So where are we meeting? I suspect Friday night is a bit of a problem -- busy night. Somewhere in North Beach maybe? Any ideas. Faina doesn't seem to want to take responsibility for choosing.

We did a gathering at Mona Lisa once (but for lunch) and I will say they took great care of us. Other ideas?

I ate at a great Italian place a few years ago, if I could only remember what it was called. Maybe you who are more familiar with the area might know. Is North Beach near enough to FW to walk? We were staying at the Radisson FW and walked there. It was on a corner, and the thing I remember most is the antipasti platter. It was so good, and fresh, with a whole bunch of things that choose from, that changed each night.

NEo, I'll look at your hotel. Thanks!

I am sorry I will miss this great event; I am going to be in Sedona for a conference.

Cat- I love the Argonaut in FW; it is a Kimpton boutique hotel in an elegant nautical theme.

North Beach is walking distance but not in high heels! .... a quick cab ride though.

There should be lots of great restaurants; it IS San Francisco! Gary Danko is near FW and is highly rated but probably very pricey. I like Fog City Diner which is a quick trolley or cab ride away; it is moderately priced.

Sign me a maybe.

If Sezchuan/Hunan is any one else's favorite. I love Hunan's on Samsome a block North of Broadway. Good prices and can accomadate parties no problem.

http://henryshunanrestaurant.com/

Spicy but really good!

ty

Well since I have plenty of free time on my hands and if you don't mind a gimp. My cast will have been off for three days by then. So count me in!!

Besides, I haven't been to San Francisco since I was a little kid. And I have wanted to meet many of you for awhile.

Tom

Shoot... I really wish I could be there!! I will have just gotten home on the 22 from being gone for 2 weeks and it is just not sensible for me to even think about coming up but will be there in spirit.

Tom - how are you feeling?

Dawn,

As they say,'one day at a time'. Some days are better than others. My stay here in Arizona has been really helpful. My sister and her family are great, especially her kids.

Tom

Well, you really should be asking Stu Dudley where would be a good place to eat. He may have left on vacation already. Have you checked his recommendations?

If budget is an issue, North Beach Pizza might work. I have never been but heard great things about their pizza:

http://www.northbeachpizza.com

Basta Pasta is inexpensive:

http://www.studyworld.com/culinary/Basta-Pasta--San-Francisco.htm

I like North Beach Restaurant. It is more expensive than Basta Pasta but the food is great, nice atmosphere:

http://www.northbeachrestaurant.com/menu.htm

The pastas are all between $19-$29. Meat and Chicken entrees between $22 - $39. Fish entrees $19 - $41. You wouldn't be disappointed.

If we are in town, I would love to come.

Tom... I do understand one day at a time..sometimes that is truly all we can do. You remain in my thoughts.

cat-I have stayed at Columbus Motor Inn a couple of times when I was paying for my own hotel room. For the price, it's a good deal and you can't beat the free parking since most places in SF charge $45-55 a night to park (including the Argonaut).

North Beach is definitely walking distance from the Columbus Motor Inn as they both are on Columbus. Not a bad walk.

I think anyplace in North Beach would be good. We had our last GTG at El Tutto Qua and enjoyed that. What time are we planning on meeting? We should check with a couple of restaurants to make sure they can accomodate our group.

Tom, I look forward to meeting you! Glad to hear you are doing better and that you have family to help you through this.

Picking a place for these things is always such an issue, and there are so many tastes to satisfy. While I like some nice, fine dining, it never seems to work with a group -- 12 or more here?

Here's something I'll throw out. Capp's Corner at Powell and Green in North Beach (almost next door to Beach Blanket Babylon). To be honest I've never eaten there but walked by it so many times. When we rented an apartment a block away, the local owners who have lived there for many years raved about. They mainly feature family style dining, and have a lot of groups about our size -- that's supposedly what they do best, and I've mainly heard only great things about the food (for typical Italian, not gourmet dining). The way I see it working is that for $18 or $20 per person -- they'd serve tureens of minestrone and their house salad with beans and beets, and then offer a selection of dishes to be shared family style. You can look at the website and click dinner menu to see choices. I'm thinking there could be some meat dishes, some vegetarian dishes, etc. -- something for everyone and all bills would be the same -- except for separate bar bills. Does this sound like anything we'd want to do? I just worry about the usual "ouch. I didn't realize my dinner was going to be $45 with a salad" or that sort of thing. Any personal experience with it?

http://www.cappscorner.com

Neo, I have no experience to speak of with restaurants in SF. Just wanted to add, while I don't want to pay $40-50 for just an entree, I don't mind paying a good price if the food is great!

I just think some place where we can move around easily, don't have to worry about disturbing others if we get too loud, and that has good wine or cocktails.

<< just think some place where we can move around easily, don't have to worry about disturbing others if we get too loud, and that has good wine or cocktails.>>

Henry's Hunan on Sansome fits that bill. Family style, so you just order a bunch of dishes and pass around.

thereyet

Works for me, thereyet! Especially if it is one step closer to making sure you are there!

I too was wondering about Asian/Chinese.

I don't know Henry's. Here's what Zagat's says -- not that it means a whole lot:

"Make sure you have plenty of water on hand or better yet, bring a fire hose - because atomic spicy dishes are the trademark of these not for the faint of heart Hunan hole in the wall haunts. Though some can't wait to head back for the cheap indulgences, some wonder what the fuss is as everything tastes the same and can be really greasy."
Food: 21
Decor: 7
Service: 15
Average price $19

I am in for anything. If we do someplace like Henry's, just need to make sure they have some dishes for those that don't like spicy. (That's not me BTW, I love spicy!)

Before I retired I use to go to a pub in the Embaradro center. Forgot the name but could make an inquiry if you want.

Only five weeks to go and there are only 70 posts on this thread!?! Shock, horror and dread! You guys better get going. The last SF GTG thread had over 200 posts!

Enough with the snide comments. Are the newlyweds coming?

Snide? Me? Someone sent me a note today and aksed how the "nudely weds" were doing! I thought that was cute. We'll be out of town, but as with all SF GTG I have missed, I will be with you in spirit.

I'm late to this - please put me in the "maybe" camp. I have a trip to Tahoe planned for sometime between Oct 20 and Nov 1. If I don't go up the hill on that weekend, I can drive down to SF on Friday.

I'm in the "maybe" category, too. Depends on a family commitment.

Roger, was it the Holding Company? It's still there, and the food is pretty good (bar food).

Okay, I can get airfare for $131 on Virgin America. Now I could use some help finding a nice hotel. Somewhere nice at about $200 a night. But I am willing to go higher.

I will be either on crutches or walking with a cane. Any suggestions.

Tom

mdlove, no, not the holding company. It was one of a chain of pubs first opened in Canada. I have a call in to a friend and he will get back to me.

All I remember was great fish and chips, pies and the like. It was fairly large as well.

Biiilly -- So you read and count all the posts on the GTGs that you don't attend?! Tsk, tsk ...

<<I am in for anything. If we do someplace like Henry's, just need to make sure they have some dishes for those that don't like spicy. (That's not me BTW, I love spicy!)>>

They have plenty of non-spicy dishes as well.

NeoP, that zagats review...would probably read the same for ANY Chinese food joint in the city...with the exception of the "spicy" part...on those dishes that are clearly marked as "spicy".

Put me in the group that loves the place.

Plus, I think that the family style dinning works great for a group like this.

My vote is for Henry's Hunan!

thereyet

Put me in the group that thinks that point of all this is to meet and talk with other Fodorites -- not about a gourmet fine dining experience. Where we eat is not that important to me. The big questions -- will the place easily reserve and handle a group our size (whatever that is) by moving tables and chairs to set us up as a group -- or will they want to split everyone up in a series of tables for 4 or so? Will they do separate checks -- especially for drinks? It seems to always end up a disaster with a group like this and one enormous bill. Is it easy to get to for those driving (parking?) and those arriving by public transportation? Can we sit and relax and chat for something like three hours, or after one hour will we start getting the "time's up" look? In other words, is this a place that caters to long relaxing group dinners or is it a "get 'em in and out" place? From past experience, I find that not everyone arrives at once. Will they want everyone there and seated and will they start pressuring you to order right away, or is it a place where you can spend an hour having cocktails first before anyone bats an eye about making you order? (These questions refer to any place we choose, not specifically aimed at Henry's).

Regarding "spicy", I've never seen that before as a major comment on Zagat's or anywhere else -- even for Hunan food. If we are really doing "family style" how big a problem is spicy if that's what they are really noted for? If half the people end up wanting to order their own dish to avoid firey hot, is that then a problem that defeats the original purpose? Just asking.

The place is great for groups. I have been there for Birthday parties with a dozen people. They bring the Tsing Toa's by the six pack to the table. I have seen groups larger then the one's I have described. They have screens that they can use to divide the room (or at least they used to).

I have never seen anyone "rushed" through a meal, especially any group. I always got the impression that they think like...the longer you are there, the more money you will spend.

They will cook dishes to the desired "hotness" requested. There are more non-hot dishes on the menu then hot dishes. This is the USA after all. But if YOU want it HOT, they will oblige you.

This is not what I would consider "fine dining" or pretentious cuisine. I is good old fashioned family style Chinese.

I can't answer the questions about separate checks. I have never asked for one.

I am not one to quibble about dining bills. I don't drink though and if there were heavy drinking going on I would expect those who drink the most...to pony up the most. But that is just me.

I do believe that this resto provides good value for the food. Often when you go to the standard resto, for many, the portions are too large and end up paying for food they can't finish. At a family style, you eat what you want, no more/no less. And if you need more food...they bring it.

Mostly, they have large round tables, seating ten or so. Two of those should easily do it. Easy to get up from, I have had that problem...getting stuck at a long table. See last year's GTG thread for stories on that one.

thereyet

I agree, the purpose is to get together. However, on the spicy note, I cannot eat spicy. I'm sure there will be others in the same position so we just need to make sure to order some dishes without hot peppers.

Looking forward to meeting you all!

Yes:
Cat and Mr Cat
Faina
Linda
Patrick and Lee
Paula
Ronda
Stu Dudley
Tom TRSW
Trvl Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
JanisJ
Lucie
Shanghainese
ThereYet

Ronda, I cannot eat spicy, but I can't recall a single place where you order a "hot" dish asking to prepare it "mild" and they refuse? Never!

Well I like the idea of putting up the screen and having a somewhat private area. But we will have to get everyone's vote because I know spicy can be an issue for people. I am in for anything. It's the company that counts!!

Whoa. So how many don't like spicy food? I seem to be hearing that a lot. Sure, a place can do something different, but honestly if a majority or even half don't like spicy, would we really pick a place that is FAMOUS for spicy food? If we order half our dishes prepared NOT in the usual way, does it make sense to go there? If half the group is vegetarian would we pick a steak house because they will prepare them something they can eat?

From Wikpedia: "Hunan cuisine is one of the eight regional cuisines of China and is well known for its hot spicy flavor, fresh aroma and deep color."

I'm not trying to be difficult here, just asking -- how many of those who are definitely going would prefer NOT to go to a place that features spicy foods?

I am in the "maybe's" and I can't eat spicy food, but don't let that stop everyone else, I come to GTGs to enjoy the company, I can survive on rice mixed with hot tea.

For non-spicy chinese food, I'd recommend R&G Lounge on Kearny Street.

Patrick, I don't mind to go to a spicy place, but I'll have to ask one plate to be mild, that's all. I don't see a reason not to go. After all, the main reason is to meet in person. Food is secondary.

So we've agreed on Henry's Hunan. Now, WHICH ONE? The website lists 4 locations:
924 Sansome
110 Natoma
674 Sacramento
1016 Bryant

Can we exclude Natoma and Bryant? Creepy locations in the evening, if I'm not mistaken. Sacramento opened till 5 pm only.

WE HAVE A WINNER!!

924 Sansome Street (between Broadway & Vallejo)
San Francisco, CA 94111
(415) 956-7727
Monday - Sunday 11:30 a.m. — 9:30 p.m. Open Daily

R&G lounge is even better! Right by my work

http://www.rnglounge.com/menu.pdf

Seriously, check out the menu and dare to tell me you are not hungry yet!

Parking... don't even want to go there

So... R&G? Let's vote! We need 200 posts to satisfy Iamq

Henry's Hunan

ty

Looks like 11 to 17 people. Someone want to call -- maybe both places --and see about a couple tables together for that many? Maybe check out what Henry's says about ordering for a group if up to half don't like spicy? Clearly Henry's seems a lot cheaper if that makes a difference to anyone.

I love the idea of doing family style -- sharing wherever we go -- love the variety idea. These "dinner for __ people" deals are always so great at Asian restaurants if they have them, where you share a lot of dishes.

What time are we meeting? I have to plan it into our "busy" schedule -- LOL -- nothing at all planned that day, but I know some of you DO have to work!

Just looked at R&G's menu...hey it looks really good but I still prefer a little more down to earth rather then "fine dining".

Seriously, there are lots of non spicy dishes on the menu at Henry's. It is the kind of place where you can mingle and is perfect for "parties".

Just saying...

thereyet

I typically get off work a 7:00 so could be there by 7:30. Of course I could always leave a little early.

thereyet

Is Henry's a bigger place? Easier to "take over" an area than R&G? The only picture I saw of R&G looks kind of smaller and more "intimate"?

I'm leaning toward Henry's personally. I nominate thereyet to handle making the reservation. Everybody who can't eat spicy and gets stuck with it can throw an egg roll at thereyet.

Just called Henry's...

No problem with this sized party. The Round tables seat 8-12 people, they agreed that two of these tables next to one another with about 8 at each would be best. They agreed that if even half wanted non-spicy it would be no problem. Hey, you could have a spicy table and a non-spicy table!

What do you think?

thereyet

I like the idea of a spicy table and a non spicy table -- does that relate to the food or the people? I want the spicy table in either case!

I'll try to make it. We're flying up there that day so the next day we can see our Bruins get smashed by the Bears.

Henry's has a large dinning room, not huge, but just right IMO. Also it is not right on Broadway so it doesn't get a lot of walking by curiosity attention. So it tends to be patronized by those who know about it.

I have never seen it rowdy packed with people. I think they get crowded at lunch time mostly for the business lunch bunch.

Oh, and Neo, I would rather get hit with a Diana's special meat pie, then an egg roll any day. See appetizer menu.

And make that WITH peanut sauce, thank you.

thereyet

"I have never seen it rowdy packed with people.

So we should try to make it a first for them?

No problem, NP.

thereyet

OK, so Hunan it is, and I like the idea of 2 tables: spicy and non-spicy. Table #1 "fiery dragon" Table #2 "ulcer and such" LOL

Guys, we have not discussed who e-mails Katie for goodies. Unfortunately, I have a problem with getting UPS. Any volunteers?

I am good at "general managing"

Surfergirl, should I add you to "yes" or "maybe"? One or 2 persons?

OK, maybe we shouldn't get carried away with this spicy/non spicy table idea. Frankly I think some will like a variety and if there are some of each kind at each table I think we're better off than deciding all spicy or all non spicy and having to pick a table accordingly. And of course, I don't think they'll come smack our hands with a ruler if we pass a dish from one table to another either.

Henrys sounds good to me. I like somewhat spicey food.

Now, does anyone have any Hotel recommendations. Thanks.

Tom

Get the presidential suite at the Ritz and we will all come to your place for drinks after. OK?

That will be Ronda & Dan. And I don't think you should separate the tables according to food preferences - all will work out.

Yes:
Cat and Mr Cat
Faina
Linda
Patrick and Lee
Paula
Ronda and Dan
Stu Dudley
Surfergirl
Tom TRSW
Trvl Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
JanisJ
Lucie
Shanghainese
ThereYet

13 - yes, 5 - maybe, hooray, 2 tables! So it's Henry's Hunan.

When we get up to 200 replies, I'll start a new thread. Still 2 questions:

1) what time - is 7 pm OK? earlier? later? the earlier the better, more time for conversations

2) who can write to Katie for goodies? even if several people, better then none

Remind me to bring sticky paper so everybody can write down his/her name.

I'll write Katie...since we seem to "know" each other already.

thereyet

I think 7:00 is a good time. I usually work till 7:00 and it takes about 30 minutes to get there.

I'll have to knock off a wee bit early don't ya think?

Oh, and get me off that fence sitter list.

thereyet

thereyet, you HAVE to come. Who would we throw food at if we don't like it?

Neo - I would but it's not available. Guess I'll just have to buy a round at dinner.

Tom

Mr. Trvlmaven will be there too (you'll know it's us--he's a Santa look-alike). He never passes up a chance to eat anywhere in Chinatown.
Cheers!

No, no, you have to put me on the "maybe" list! It's the one evening I'll be able to get my husband & son together for our traditional trip to Calzone's in North Beach, so I'll either be stopping in wherever this place is for a quick one, or my family will flake, in which case, I can do more than that.

However, after reading NP's and thereyet's comments on the SP board, we are very sympatico!

Where is this place???

Faina, like I told you dear one, put me down as a "maybe". I probably won't be able to eat any of the food except like Shangeneise (did I get that spelling right?) can eat but if it works out I will be there. I will report in closer to the date.

LoveItaly,

You have to come. You are one of the Fodorites I want to meet the most.

Tom

Oh Tom, I want to meet you too, you know that.

I may have a way to get into SF..I will keep in touch dear one.

BTW, do you have a hotel yet? And when will you be flying into SFO? Friday or Thursday?

No hotel yet, any suggestions? I am flying in on Thursday. I hope you can get a ride.

Tom

Henry's sounds perfect! It seems like a place where raucous laughter won't draw stares!

I'm still trying to decide where to stay as well. SInce I don't know much about the area, the address doesn't tell me much. Is it near Fisherman's Wharf? Are there any nice hotels within walking distance?

Ncounty, I looked at the hotel you mentioned but that was a little steep for me.

We haven't decided if we are flying or driving yet, since we may now have an extra day.

Hi Tom, according to our editor Katie, Fodor's is suppose to go down any moment. I will email you tomorrow. Hugs!

Here's the Mapquest image for the restaurant location:

http://tinyurl.com/5yfnef

You can click for hotels in the "category" space above it for "what's near". I did that and didn't recognize any of the hotels in that area.

Here's the Mapquest image for the restaurant location:

http://tinyurl.com/5yfnef

You can click for hotels in the "category" space above it for "search nearby". I did that and didn't recognize any of the hotels in that area.

whoa. how come I edited and got a double post? Is that a result of last night's maintenance?

LoveItaly, yes you have to come. We will find a way to get you home. If Janisj comes, that might work but I know we can get you back either way.

I think we should start before 7pm. Maybe 6:30 so we have plenty of time to visit. TY, we will save a space for you and make sure you are not stuck against the wall in the middle of a bunch of beautiful women (unless of course, you want that seating arrangement! LOL)

morning all. LoveItaly - I'd definitely be able to take you down and back IF I go. But my dates up at Tahoe aren't firm yet (and it might be semi-last minute)

So - if you and paula1470 or someone else can work out another option - go ahead. If not, I can be your fall back postition

Good morning dear Janisj, I had planned on asking you if you were able to attend the GTG if you would be willing to give me a ride, so thank you for your kind offer.

If you are not able to attend the GTG I will see what I can work out as I sure would love to attend. And not from a selfish reason but I hope you can attend as I know you would enjoy the GTG as they are a great group of Fodorite!

And good morning to you also Paula. Thank you also! But I live so far out of the way for you dear one.

I think the idea of meeting at 6:30pm is a very good idea as when looking at the website I noted they close at 9:30pm.

Anyway, there is time to see what can be worked out. Hope everyone is having a good week!

I checked the map Patrick posted. I didn't see any hotels in the area of the restaurant where I would want to stay. I think one should just plan on taking a taxi if they are going to be staying at a hotel. Personally I always stay at Union Square. Later I will check out some hotels I like and see if they have rooms available etc.

Yes:
Cat and Mr Cat
Faina
Linda
Patrick and Lee
Paula
Ronda and Dan
Stu Dudley
Tom TRSW
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
JanisJ
LoveItaly
LucieV
Shanghainese
Surfergirl
ThereYet

6.30 pm - I can be there at 6 pm I think as a "greeter" with the orange Fodor's bag so there is no confusion which table to go to

Give me a few minutes, I'll post transportation advice - from BART, etc...

If anybody is coming by BART (Tom?) from Embarcadero walk up 1 or 2 blocks to take bus line 10 that crosses Market at Front going north.

From Embarcadero Blvd - line 12 to Sansome, walk 1 or 2 blocks to the restaurant.

From Van Ness area - bus line 12 runs along Washington to cross Van Ness, go east to Sansome, you are by the restaurant.

From Fishermen's take line 10 going toward Embarcadero/Market, get off on Battery @ Broadway, walk 1 block up to Sansome.

All above bus lines should stop at Broadway, the restaurant is 924 Sansome between Broadway and Vallejo.

If you want to walk, take BART to Montgomery, exit to Sansome, walk over 9 blocks.

Anybody needs help? Like you need a pick-up not to get lost in the maze of SF traffic?

Also, if there is something you'd rather not post, drop a line faina22@hotmail.com

Ok, help me. Where is Fisherman's Wharf on that Map?

cat, on the mapquest link I gave, drag the map downward. Follow Embarcadero along the water to the top end of the area -- you'll see Pier 45 extending out into the water. That's Fisherman's Wharf. The Ferry Building is to the right and down a bit from the restaurant on the map. You'll see it marked as "ferry plz." between Pier 1 and Pier 2.

I should mention that apparently there are a number of conventions that week -- my preliminary checking was finding all hotel discounts, even AAA or senior gone from most hotels and some already fully sold out. Friday night may be a little clearer if conventions end on Friday.

Hi there Tom, here is the hotel I usually stay at located at Union Square. They do have available rooms for Thursday and Friday night (Oct. 23 and 24th). I did not check out the room rates however.

And I have not stayed at the Villa Florence since they remodeled and became owned by the Larkspur Group, they use to be part of the Kimpton Group. Location wise if one wants to stay at Union Square this hotel is perfect.
http://www.villaflorence.com/

Hi Faina! I notice you have thereyet under the "maybe" list..isn't he a "yes"? I am asking as I was under the impression thereyet is attending for sure, unless I misunderstood.

Author: thereyet
Date: 09/19/2008, 12:23 am
Sign me a maybe.

I would love to move him to "yes" even if he wants some of my dessert, but...

Oh, I assumed since he chose the restaurant he is coming for sure. I will email him for you as I am prettty sure he is. Take care!

Wasn't this post a confirmtion that thereyet is no longer a maybe, but a yes?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Author: thereyet
Date: 09/22/2008, 08:01 pm

I think 7:00 is a good time. I usually work till 7:00 and it takes about 30 minutes to get there.

I'll have to knock off a wee bit early don't ya think?

Oh, and get me off that fence sitter list.

thereyet

OUCH! Knocking off the fence

Yes:
Cat and Mr Cat
Faina
Linda
Patrick and Lee
Paula
Ronda and Dan
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
Tom TRSW
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
JanisJ
LoveItaly
LucieV
Shanghainese
Surfergirl

14 yes and 6 maybe YAY!

Ok, we booked a room at the Columbus, too, but I am still looking just in case.

Looks like now we will be driving up Friday and going home Sunday.

Shoot. I was just going to suggest that those of us in the vicinity could meet for breakfast at Mama's on Washington Square on Saturday. But we fly home on Saturday!

Patrick-We'll just have to have breakfast without you! Or you could change your flight (yeah, right!!)

What time, neo? Maybe an early brekkie?

No, not an option when I'm accompanied by the slowest eater in the world, and we need to worry about getting to the airport. But I highly recommend it for anyone else.

Oh, I would LOVE to do this GTG... that's my b-day, what a great way to celebrate...

But, I booked a wedding cake for the 25th about 3 weeks ago, so I will have to miss it. Have fun and have a b-day drink for me!

YAY! I am on the YES list!

thereyet

Well, for an ESL person it take two to explain the fence expression, shame on you all

Payton's Grandma, make an excuse and bring the wedding cake. We'll eat it!

NeoPatrick... that is an idea I'd love to consider. Maybe I'll deliver it on the 23rd & fly out that night... hmmmm....

I inquired with airline b/4 the ATL GTG about taking a cake and was told I couldn't carry it on. Had a suite & thought about making one while there, but decided it was a vacation away from cakes!!!

Have a feeling though, if we get to HI next spring, Matnikstym will make me do a cake for him while there.

Have a feeling though, if we get to HI next spring, Matnikstym will make me do a cake for him while there.

I would think, he'll meet you at the airport with a cake, no?

Faina and Peytons -- You know Matnikstym lives on the Big Island, right? We met him last spring and he was born in the small city we live in now.

Faina -- Is there a deadline that the maybe's need to convert to Yes's?

Hmmmmmm...
A GTG w/o Mrs Kal....
Hmmmmmm

I don't know about a cake, but Matnikstym better meet us at the airport with some of the luscious Macadamia Nut Chocolate Dipped Shortbread Cookies he sent me recently!!

sounds like a good crowd for the GTG in SF... wish I could be there.

The deadline is Friday noon, after that I'm not calling to add another chair

Yes:
Cat and Mr Cat
Faina
Linda
Patrick and Lee
Paula
Ronda and Dan
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
Tom TRSW
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
JanisJ
Kal
LoveItaly
LucieV
Shanghainese
Surfergirl

Well Faina, dear I can't commit at this point so if you can't add another person or two after Friday you will have to put me in the NO catagory. I would love to be with all of you but again at this point I can't postively give an answer I am sorry to say.

No, No I meant Friday October 24 at noon on the day of our meeting

OH! I thought you were getting quite tough on us, lol. I will sure let you know before the GTG day dear one.

Do you have room for two more ... we're in SF 6 months a year, and would be glad to attend. Just post the final plans. Thanks, and cheers.

WoooHoooo!!!

Maybe we will need THREE of those big round tables!

thereyet

Yes:
Cat and Mr Cat
Chiao and Leone
Faina
Linda
Patrick and Lee
Paula
Ronda and Dan
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
Tom TRSW
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
JanisJ
Kal
LoveItaly
LucieV
Shanghainese
Surfergirl

16 yes, 7 maybe... 3 tables? heck, we'll have whole place closed for a private party!

So, Faina, are you making the reservations? Any parking suggestions?

I thought ThereYet called them and made reservations, no?

Parking... parking... what's that? LOL

Sorry I don't drive, so I'll have to search and get back to you on that, hoping somebody will post!

Am I good with delegating responsibilities or what

Seems that I have been dropped from the list, however,I did a follow up an a place to dine if it isn't set in stone.

Look it up on their site: Elephant and Castle, 424 Clay street.

My apologies to Roger, probably when I was moving ThereYet from maybe to yes, somehow your name got deleted. I did not mean to do that!

Yes:
Cat and Mr Cat
Chiao and Leone
Faina
Linda
Patrick and Lee
Paula
Ronda and Dan
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
Tom TRSW
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
JanisJ
Kal
LoveItaly
LucieV
RogerUK
Shanghainese
Surfergirl

would you possibly have room for a new fodorite?
i was being envious of a recent gtg in paris when loveitaly told me about this one.
i am coming over the golden gate bridge if anyone wants to car pool or needs a ride.

abranz,

Of course we can make room for you and welcome to Fodors.

I have been to 5-6 different GTG's in the last 3 years, mostly in Italy. And I had a blast at all of them. I look forward to meeting you.

Tom

Wow the list gets longer and longer. How exciting! LoveItaly, we will get you there one way or another. You need to see all the Fodorites you already know and meet all the new ones.

Faina - please put me down as a maybe. I'm going to try to make it, but not positive yet.

Janisj & LoveItaly - perhaps we can work out a carpool for the three of us if we all can go. If the Kals can go, we could have a party on the way down (my Durango will seat 7 - if Kal would drive, I'd let him join us. ).

I want to come to this GTG so badly it hurts. I don't know if I can get time off work since it's during our busy time of month and I know DH can't get away. But IF I can somehow make it for a long weekend, like 10/23 to 10/26, are there any decent prices on hotels that aren't in crack alley? The last time I was in SF we had to sell a kidney just to afford a room.

P_M - I believe Patrick said he got a $120 rate at the Columbus Motor Inn. It was a AAA rate. It might be worth checking out.

Thanks toed, that place does look pretty decent for the price. I need to check the schedule at work, I really hope this is doable.

Unfortunately I'm still in the "maybe" camp

P_M: I got the Hyatt Embarcadero for last weekend on priceline for $105 plus tax/fees ($122 total). Got an amazing view room w/o even paying for an upgrade.

Worth a try (PL has new zones for SF so be sure check before bidding)

Hi toedtoes, oh what fun it would be if you could make it! I assumed with work that it wouldn't be possible. Janis and you, well the Kal's too all live in the same area.

P_M..if you can make it..fantastic! I will keep my fingers crossed!

Hello abranz! I am so glad you saw my post to you on the Paris GTG. I was enjoying reading that thread when I saw your comment about wishing there would be a SF GTG sometime..good timing on your part!
You will enjoy meeting all the Fodorite's..they are a wonderful group of people and everyone will be happy to meet you.

Paula dear..well hopefully I will be there without you or anyone going out of their way. Thank you for always being such a good friend.

Faina, looks like this will be the biggest SF GTG ever!

Hi Tom, have you reserved a hotel in SF yet? If toedtoes can be at the GTG you two will have a lot in common as she loves photography also and is quite talented as you are..do bring your camera dear one!

hi loveitaly,
thanks for the tip on the s.f. gtg. you're right about my timing must have been my 6th sense.

tom,
thanks for the welcome. from all the posts that i have read it sounds like a fun evening.

looking forward to meeting everyone.

Definitely shaping up to be a three table party...do I hear a call for four?

Woooohoooo!

Welcome abranz. I think you are in for a great time.

NeoP, are you getting excited yet?

thereyet

<<I thought ThereYet called them and made reservations, no?>>

Faina, I called and talked to them already, they just want me to get back to them when we have a better idea as to how many.

There will be no problems I was assured. I figure I will call them back the week of. No?

thereyet

About checks, don't we think we can just do checks for each table? Being family style it seems best.

We could have a contest for the biggest bill!

thereyet

Just a comment about paying, bring cash. Somehow it gets all figured out. If everyone keeps track of what they ordered, drinks and food, add in the tax (is it around 15% thereyet?) and adds in the 20% tip and pays in cash that is as easy as it gets. Seperate checks will not be given out I am sure. If each one brings a sheet of paper and pen to keep track of their order that is always a good idea. Sounds like a large but really fun group!

And what time are we meeting? The restaurant closes at 9:30pm if I remember correctly so we don't want to meet too late I would think.

Yes:
Abranz
Cat and Mr Cat
Chiao and Leone
Faina
Linda
Patrick and Lee
Paula
Ronda and Dan
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
Tom TRSW
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
JanisJ
Kal
LoveItaly
LucieV
RogerUK
Shanghainese
Surfergirl
ToedToes

Bruce, I don't think we have to make reservations so far in advance. The week of the GTG, Mon or Tue will be fine. And then, a small adjustment with confirmation on Friday morning. I'm sure you know, you just need a woman to guide you

To pay - yes, please everybody bring small bills. And I think food will be shared and divided, as for drinks, let's make it one or 2 drinks minimum, so we can easily share the cost.

It will get annoying and uncomfortable if everybody will try to calculate how much they've ordered. Happened before. Doesn't look nice when somebody walks from chair to chair marking off a chart.

By the way, I don't eat certain foods, and don't drink much, but I don't mind to pay like 1/8 at a table of 8, for example.

I don't think the restaurant will agree to issue separate checks for everyone, but one check per table should not be a problem if we tell them when we place our orders.

Hi Faina, if I am there I will not be able to eat anything except a bowl of rice if they have it (due to my food allergies) BUT I will have wine instead of food LOL (won't be driving of course). I am very happy to pay my percentage of the total bill for the table (1/8 of a table of eight).

One small question. Since Lee doesn't drink anything, and I'm paying for two, does that mean I get FOUR drinks? Hooray! Can someone carry me out?

And why are you the one who gets 4 drinks?

Oh, well, it's only a suggestion, I'll go with the flow... anybody who'll keep the score

Hey Patrick, toedtoes doesn't drink any kind of liquor so maybe she will let me drink her share, you think?

Speaking of toedtoes, she is a vegetarian, I hope there will be some dishes she can eat. And I remember Shangainese posted she would only be able to eat a bowl of rice and some tea.

So some that is something to keep in mind Faina.

People, don't expect me to walk around with a note-pad writing down who ordered what.

We must decide now what to do so there will be no hard feelings.

I am not carving it in stone to divide the total. Only asking how to pay the check as I assume they will not write personal checks.

I know I don't remember what it was and how much at the end of a meal, besides this is a "family style" - food to share.

Meeting at my house is not an option either

OK. Just a thought.

Maybe instead of a table with hot dishes, another with mild dishes, we have a table to share the payments, and a table with individual checks?



How do they manage at other GTGs?

I've been to: 1)potlucks, 2)share the cost equally, and 3)everybody pays for himself.

Hi Faina, I think or rather know the "confusion" with this GTG is the fact that the food is served family style rather than each person ordering what they want to eat as we have always done in the past.

And in that some will not be able to eat any or all the dishes for various reasons that causes more confusion.

Personally dear friend I do not have a problem paying my share percentage wise (as 1/8 of the cost at a table for 8) even though I cannot eat the food, but I sure can't speak for others of course.

I suggest that regarding the drinks, some will order alcohol, some just tea or a softdrink and that each person keep track of what drinks they ordered (does the menu include the price for wines, drinks, sodas, tea etc) and pay in cash for their individual drinks plus tax and tip of course. And, no doubt pots of tea will be put on the table?

I will probably drink more wine than normal since I can't eat, lol.

This is a new exprience for us, having a family style dinner. I hope others will chime in with some good suggestions. It does seem a bit confusing.

thereyet-How does the family style work? I would assume that each table can order an assortment of dishes so that everyone is happy at each table. Some hot, some mild, some vegetarian and others with fish or meat. If's that the case then I think we could divide evenly and keep track of extra drinks as LoveItaly suggested. Or is there going to be a set menu? Hopefully there will be some options in ordering.

LoveItaly-Can you eat rice?

If there is someone at a table who really doesn't eat anything, then just count them out when the check is divided. Those people can pay for their drinks (extra wine!!).

I've been to dozens of these "family style" dinners and there is very rarely a problem. You divide the total bill for the table evenly including tip and tax and everybody puts in that amount. If someone wants to say "I had three expensive drinks, then fine -- that person can throw in extra money. And if someone says "I didn't eat food, only an eggroll and a glass of tap water", well -- perhaps they can take some of that extra. Or if they really had that extreme of "nothing", perhaps that table divides by one less person and that person just throws in the couple dollars worth they had -- which can go to the server who will have probably earned it taking care of the crowd.

But to be perfectly blunt, it sounds like a pretty darned inexpensive place and if someone is worried their share is just going to be too much for them -- well, maybe they need to reconsider going?

I'd like to think with a bunch of sophisticated travelers, this should not be any issue at all. Everyone just needs to consider it a group dinner. Surely when you pay a set price for a party or banquet, you aren't going to sit around and want money back because you didn't eat your dessert and someone else did. Big deal. Just divide it all out evenly.

If there is a really a concern about a big difference in bar bills, perhaps the restaurant will do separate food and bar bills for each table. Then people can chip in clearly their cost (including tax and tip for their own drinks) and divide out the food evenly.

"Meeting at my house is not an option either"

Oh c'mon Faina. You could cook for everyone then there would be no dispute about the bill. You see, the solution is so simple.

"I'd like to think with a bunch of sophisticated travelers, this should not be any issue at all." - I hope so too!

Family style - everybody gets a clean plate, and whatever food is ordered - it goes in the middle of the table for everybody to take some.

Patrick-I'm with you. It shouldn't be that difficult and not that expensive. After all "Fodor's GTGs" - Priceless!!

Well, if you really didn't want me to go, you could have just said so! But to go through all this effort to tell me I'm CHEAP!!

When Faina wrote "a minimum drink order", I did feel my pocketbook go into convulsions... I mean, some of you folks can pack in that liquor!!

Personally, I prefer the idea of splitting the food evenly between those who eat (donations from non-eaters welcome) and everyone add in for their drinks. It's pretty easy to add up drinks - if I have 3 sodas, it's going to run between $5 and $10; if I have 10 sour toe cocktails, it's going to cost me about $50 to $75 (depending on whether you get the big toe or not).

If we do split the cost including drinks, will I be held liable when Faina gets drunk and starts flashing the other patrons?? It could be an expensive lawsuit. I'm just sayin'.........

I've been at parties where alcoholic drinks are pay as you go - waiter brings drink, you pay. Simple. Cash is easiest.

When we have family style Chinese meals, we go around the table and each person picks one dish to order that way there is sure to be something each person likes (plus rice and tea). Dad picks Sweet and Sour Pork which I don't like, so I don't take any. If there is any left after it has been around, we pass it over to Dad to finish up. Kids only like Chicken Cashew so we pass the dish over to them to divide. Everything works out. I'm one of those that can't eat hot and spicy so I'm sure there will be others and we just won't order a spicy dish when it is our turn. It isn't always the dinner I would pick if I were in charge but I never go hungry and I never have to eat just plain white rice.

Just a reminder, you should bring cash because I'm sure the waiter will not want to split a bill 8 ways and bring 8 credit card receipts per table. Or the person who forgot cash collects cash from the others for their portion and then pays the entire tab with his credit card.

It will be fun! I haven't been to one of these GTG's yet and I'm looking forward to meeting you all and putting a face with a name!

Okay, Trippin here has been lurking. Where is the event and what time on Friday? I'm not sure if I can make a Friday evening, since I'm due to start a new contract job next week and not certain of my hours. I'd be coming from San Jose, using VTA buses and CalTrain (I don't drive.) Cost is an issue with me unfortunately, and I'm not drinking these days. ;-(

trippinkpj-I think this will be an inexpensive dinner and of course no one is going to force you to drink although I had my arm twisted a couple of times. LOL

I am not sure if we decided on a time. I suggested 6:30 and I think Faina said she might be there a little earlier than that so not really sure.

I think there is a couple of people coming to the GTG who live in your area so maybe you could get a ride. I don't want to speak for them but I can send them an email and see what they say.

We'd love to have you there.

All right, I'm into non-drinking camp too, unless they serve Pellegrino

Trippin', if you scroll 150 posts up...

http://henryshunanrestaurant.com/

924 sansome btwn broadway @ vallejo

take bus # 10 from Caltrain

toedtoes, after your 10 sour toe cocktails, we're going to take your purse and use your credit card to pay the entire bill! You'll be unconscious and never know!

Trippin, these days cost is a factor for everyone! This place is not expensive.

Yes:
Abranz
Cat and Mr Cat
Chiao and Leone
Faina
Linda
Patrick and Lee
Paula
Ronda and Dan
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
Tom TRSW
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
JanisJ
Kal
LoveItaly
LucieV
RogerUK
Shanghainese
Surfergirl
ToedToes
TrippinKPJ

We should aim for 6.30 as we'll have only 3 hours till they close at 9.30.

YAY!! We have over 200 posts! LOL

I like the idea of splitting it 1/8 for 8 people per table. But like I kind of joked earlier, but now I am serious, the first round of drinks is on me. And this is for the whole group. It will be a toast to Diablo and my honor. Besides, Tuscan told me to enjoy the money.

I mean you folks have been so nice to me and helped me plan my trips over the last 3 years its the least I can do.

And speaking of enjoying the money and to answer LoveItaly's qyestion. Yes I have booked my hotel. I am staying at the Ritz- Carlton in a Jr Suite.

I look forward to what, with out a doubt, will be a memorable evening.

Tom

Patrick - if you can find a credit card in my purse, have at it!

Meanwhile, I've got a call into my company's "employee assistance program" to find out my liability in regards to Faina's drunken celebration plans...

No one should worry about the bill. This is not an expensive joint.

You can find parking on the street if you're good.

Aside from cocktails, bottles of wine and six packs of Tsing Tao can be put on the table. There will be plenty of tea.

Of course I won't firm up the Rez until the week of, but feel free to shoot me any questions and I will give them a call.

Those that only eat rice and drink tea shouldn't pay anything, though I empathize with you.

I don't think they are going to kick us out at 9:30. I have never heard of such a thing. We will be their biggest customers of the night. That being said, when you catch them looking at their watches, best to get going.

This is going to be fantastic, I can't wait! Their are a few on the "maybe" list that better get off the fence...and onto the right side!

Thanks NeoP for making this a real occasion!

Faina, DO NOT bring a note pad!

Camera? Yes. Note pad? NO

thereyet

WooooooHooooo Tom!!!!!

After party at your place?

thereyet

Tom, eek, the Ritz Carlton and buying drinks for this group of lushes (just kidding, guys)! My Inner Grandma is worried you'll spend it all in one place. My Outer Devil thinks, enjoy! enjoy! enjoy!

I can't make it that evening but I know you all will have an outrageous time. Be good or very, very bad.

So did we decide on 6:30 or earlier?

thereyet - Lets see how we survive dinner first, then maybe a night cap. I look forward to talking music with you.


Leey2 - No worries about the $$$, the settlement was HUGE!!!! Besides, I have always wanted try 'puttin on the Ritz.'


Tom

Thanks Paula and Faina. I will see how things go, and see if anyone from San Jose posts with a ride offer.

Oh, and by the way, I will have my camera with me. So do behave or I will post all the embarassing photos all over the internet

I can't wait for this. It is going to be a blast!!

Tom

Tom, I'll bring the pocket collection...160gb Ipod vid so you can browse. You can do the same?

thereyet

<<So did we decide on 6:30 or earlier?>>

Hi Paula, that sounds good but will need to know when i call again.

There is a nice little lounge up front for those who want to get there early.

thereyet

"Faina's drunken celebration plans..." - yes, and I will make you to participate

"do behave or I will post all the embarassing photos all over the internet" - hey, don't kill our fun! we all love embarassing pictures

So... who can get in at what time? I work till 5, can be there at 5.30

Is 6.30 too early for anybody?

I'm soo excited!

Faina -- could you please change me from Maybe to Yes, my good friend visiting from overseas can only meet for a quick afternoon tea.

LoveItaly and thereyet -- you think I can survive on rice and tea? Those were the times when I was living in China, malnourished and under 100 lbs. I'll consume anything edible once in my life as long as it's mild and not spicy, there are enough of them can choose from at the restaurant.

Thanks to Faina for passing the 200 mark, and can't wait to meet everyone!

Yes:
Abranz
Cat and Mr Cat
Chiao and Leone
Faina
Linda
Patrick and Lee
Paula
Ronda and Dan
Shanghainese
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
Tom TRSW
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
JanisJ
Kal
LoveItaly
LucieV
RogerUK
Surfergirl
ToedToes
TrippinKPJ

ThereYet, it was NOT ME going around with a notepad, good grief

WAIT A MOMENT!!

We need a volunteer to get goodies from Katie. Sorry I can't, UPS problems - can't have delivery at work.

Hi All,
From Google maps Street view, there appears to be a large Public Parking garage right next door
to Henry's. As you face the restaurant, pan to the right
along the street and you will see it. If you pan to the left,you will see a ramp and a parking pad-don't know if this is owned by Henry's or not.

R5

Razzles, are you coming? I'd love to see you again!

there are 2 parking places on sansome not far from henry hunans.
there are also assorted lots on montgomery and broadway.
of course if you can find street parking, you have hit the jackpot!

Hi Faina, normally I would be glad to have Katie send me the goodies as she has done at least once in the past but since at this point I don't know if I will be joining all of you or not..well that wouldn't be a good idea.

thereyet said he would write Katie back on the 22nd.

Tom

<<thereyet said he would write Katie back on the 22nd>>

Done! We will see, what will be, in the way of free, from Katie!

thereyet

Shanghainese - if you would, please pop me an email at juno dot com.

Hi all, I will know for sure on the 16th. Will have results on a medical issue.
Roger, from the North Coast.

toedtoes -- u got e-mail

I walked by Henry's Hunan yesterday. Betty at reception said there is plenty of street parking in the evening as it is a business district and everyone leaves after work. There were plenty of garages but don't know if they were monthly only.

Thank you, Ronda, this is very helpful for many attending drivers!

I volunteer to be the designated drunk

Oh, wait, I can't compete with Kal

Katie, our gracious editor, will be sending the truck with all the trick or treats for our wonderful gathering.

thereyet

thereyet,

Thank you for taking care of getting the goodie train a rollin'. And thank you Katie for sending said goodies.

Tom

P_M, are you able to take off of work?

I'm working on it, too. Since OSU will be in Austin that weekend we have an opening.....

Are we welcoming out-of-towners now?

Well....

... it turns out I'm going to be visiting my parents in the LA area that week.

Wonder how they'd feel if I skipped dinner with them one night?

BeachGirl, I'm still not sure if I can make it, I'll know in another day or so.

swisshiker, you can sneak away for one night.

Need you to be a little more specific...what kind of food do you like? Want casual? or really fancy ? For casual-there is a little "hole in the wall" Cuban restaurant called Laurel about six blocks from the symphony hall and it is great fun...need reservations since it is so small....if you go...try the vaca frita(fried cow)..they do a good job.

swisshiker-Yes do come up for the day/night. That's what I am doing and so is Cat. So we can have a mini South Bay GTG in the midst of the bigger SF GTG!!

nana5-Did you post this on the wrong thread?

P_M, BeachGirl and swisshiker,

I really hope the three of you can make it. It sures sounds like we are going to have a great group and time!!

If for no other reason, do it for Diablo. I know, a cheap ploy pulling at your heartstrings, but it would be great to meet each of you. Also, remember, the first round is on me.

Tom

Sorry to report that due to medical reasons I will not be able to attend. I sincerely wish you all a grand time and I hope our paths cross one day soon.

Sorry, Roger! Hope you'll feel better soon.

Yes:
Abranz
Cat and Mr Cat
Chiao and Leone
Faina
Linda
Patrick and Lee
Paula
Ronda and Dan
Shanghainese
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
Tom TRSW
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
JanisJ
Kal
LoveItaly
LucieV
Surfergirl
ToedToes
TrippinKPJ

Faina, I think you're working now to hit the 300 post mark soon?

I'm curious. Is there a nice fence around this restaurant for all our fence sitters?

Patrick,

http://tinyurl.com/4c8nly



R5

good one, razzledazzle!

WARNING TO ALL SAN FRANCISCANS

The eyes of Texas are upon you...

P_M is coming to town!!

Faina, sign me up baby!!

Heaven help us one and all!!!

Yeah P_M is coming to California. Don't you live in San Antonio? I went to college there at Trinity--many, many years ago. But was in SA in Feb of this year for a convention. Got to see some of my old stomping grounds. I usually get back about every 5 years or so as I have some college friends there.

Hi Paula. You're close, I live in Austin. Come for another visit soon, we often combine Austin/SA for GTGs.

Paula, I can't find your email address you gave me when I was out there.

I'd like to hear how/when you and Cat are heading up/back.

Email me at my screen name at yahoo, pretty please

P_M,

Glad to hear it. If we keep it up maybe we will have the whole place to ourselves.

Tom

Hi there Tom, I was thinking the same thing! It will be the biggest SF GTG ever!

Yes I think this may be the biggest GTG ever. Certainly the biggest I have been to in SF! How exciting.

Hi guys,

I posted a thread about my plans Saturday night, please join me if you can. If you have any other Saturday plans you would like to share you are welcome to post on the thread below.

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=1&tid=35161621

We just got back from a 3 week vacation (Paris) - so I'm catching up.

Hunan Restaurant
Friday the 24th
6:30

Is this the plan?

I think this is the same restaurant that used to be on Kearny in the 70s, and has the hottest food I've ever tasted. We used to go there for lunch & order the Harvest Pork & a beer. I never drank the beer - just hung my lips in it to cool off the inside of my mouth. Once I took an out-of-towner there & his entire head broke out in a massive sweat - but he loved the food.

My wife will be in Indianapolis visiting her father then - so I'll be there by myself.

See ya Friday
Stu Dudley

Stu-Glad you are coming. We had just about convinced all those that don't like spicy that there are some dishes that were mild. Hope you didn't scare them all away!! We will have some people just eating rice and drinking wine. But it's all about the company.

Stu, maybe you missed the "hot food" discussion, but thereyet has assured us that it isn't a problem there. If he is wrong -- we are holding him down and pouring hot pepper sauce full strength into his mouth!

As I recall (from over 30 years ago), there were many "mild" choices on the menu - you just had to know which ones they were. Back then, I'm not sure they were "noted" on the menu.

Most Asian restaurants can adjust the "hotness" of the dish - except if they are preparing the same dish in the wok for 6 people, this adjustment may be hard to control.

I always look for a small red pepper in the food, and I'll remove it just to make sure I don't bite into fire.

Stu Dudley

<<Stu, maybe you missed the "hot food" discussion, but thereyet has assured us that it isn't a problem there. If he is wrong -- we are holding him down and pouring hot pepper sauce full strength into his mouth! >>

Damn Stu! Trying to get me in trouble again. There are TONS of regular dishes on the menu and of course the spicy ones are well marked and for sure you can request whatever heat you want......

I am not , but reading your description is making me hungry.

Nothing to worry about, I promise.

thereyet

To all who can't eat hot food, or doesn't like it hot: don't worry! ANY dish can be prepared "mild" on request.

Yes:
Abranz
Cat and Mr Cat
Chiao and Leone
Faina
Linda
Patrick and Lee
Paula
P_M
Ronda and Dan
Shanghainese
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
Tom TRSW
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
JanisJ
Kal
LoveItaly
LucieV
Surfergirl
ToedToes
TrippinKPJ

I wonder if Katie is sending Zantac this time

Ok please don't hate me for this you guys, but I have to cancel for the GTG.

But I have a really good reason. And it is travel related. I am going to London to see the Chargers play the Saints at Wembley Stadium. Best of all, it's FREE!!!

My best friend since we were kids, won a raffle of a package for two that includes air, hotel and game tickets. And he invited me as his guest!!

I was looking forward to meeting all of you, but how can I turn down 4 free nights in London (a city I have never been too)?

I know all of you will still have a great time even without me there. So please, somebody be sure to take pictures and post them here.

Again, I am sorry to cancel.

Tom

Oh Tom!!! Well I am so dissapointed you won't be here but on the other hand I am so excited for you that you have this wonderful oppotunity. What a great friend! And in that you have not yet been to London..fantastic! You take lots of photos to share with us too dear one. Wishing you a fun time and of course it will be I am sure. We will see you when you do your driving tour of the US, yes?

LoveItaly - Yes you will see me during the driving tour.

As for my friend Mike. He is like the brother I never had. We have known each other since the age of 12. I was his best man and I am Godfather to his 3 children.

So I will take plenty of pictures of London and post them here.

Tom

No. This is unnacceptable.

The only way you are allowed to cancel is if you get all of us a free 4-night stay in London.

I mean fair's fair.

Tom, that's too bad for us!

Meanwhile, is that Ritz Jr. Suite prepaid? Did you need someone to take it over for you?

Cancelling The One Who Thinks his best man is better then 2 dozens of best Fodorites

Yes:
Abranz
Cat and Mr Cat
Chiao and Leone
Faina
Linda
Patrick and Lee
Paula
P_M
Ronda and Dan
Shanghainese
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
JanisJ
Kal
LoveItaly
LucieV
Surfergirl
ToedToes
TrippinKPJ

Faina - He "made me an offer I couldn't refuse"

Neo - Sorry, already canceled the room.

Tom

That's exciting news Tom, I'm sure you will enjoy your trip.

Paula and Patrick, (or anyone else) are you still up for the boat ride Friday afternoon? I'm still going, and if you want to join me, please let me know what time works for you.

We are up for it. Any time between say 10 AM and time to get to the GTG. We're flexible.

Hi Patrick. OK, I'm jumping back to the other thread and it looks like we decided on the Red and White cruises? Here's the schedule:

http://www.redandwhite.com/cruise_schedule.asp

Now here's my situation. If all goes as planned I will be arriving into SFO at 10am. I'm thinking I can do either the 1:15 or the 1:45 cruise and we will still have time to get back to the hotel and get ready for the GTG. I know Paula wants to join in and she was going to try to get an earlier flight but I don't know yet when she will get to town. Can we tentatively plan 1:15 or 1:45 and firm it up after hearing from Paula?

If you would care to exchange info please drop me a line at thegreatpumpkin24 at yahoo.com.

There is mail in the great pumpkin patch!

Hi guys just got back in from a day in the field. It looks like the best I can do is to get to Oakland about 12:30 -my flight before got me in around 2pm.

So obviously wouldn't make the 1:15 and 1:45 is pushing it. Would the 2:30 be too late? I really would like to go with you guys but I have to drop my dogs off at the boarding kennel Thurs morning and then I have an hour drive to the airport.

Maybe you all could have lunch and then I can meet you. I am taking BART from Oakland airport which I have never done before so I need to look into how long that takes.
I also will have a small bag with me so will have to figure out what to do with that. Guess I could take it on the boat if necessary.

I have to run out again but I will do a little more research when I get home in a few hours.

Hi Paula, here is the official BART website.

http://www.bart.gov/

BTW Paula,when you check the Schedule you will be taking the Freemont/Daly City BART from the Oakland Airport. There is the shuttle bus to take you from the Airport to the BART station.

Paula, 2:30 will work. We'll meet at Fisherman's Wharf and you have my cell # if you need it.

Hey guys, one last post then I must log off for the evening.

Tom wanted the first toast to be for Diablo. Tom won't be there, but I say we should still toast Diablo's memory as well as Tom's recovery. How about it?

great lineup. I'll look forward to the photos.

Paula, makes sure you have small bills for the shuttle and BART. BART you can use CC and maybe debit, but for sure you need cash for the shuttle. If I recall correctly it is like three bucks.

From Oakland airport to Embarcadero is about 45-50 minutes if you don't find yourself having to wait to long at the airport or the Coliseum BART station. Maximum wait at either place would be about ten minutes.

thereyet

And Paula, when you get off at the Embarcadero BART Station walk west toward the Ferry Building. You can catch the F Line, the historical street cars, to get to Pier 43 1/2. The F Line goes north on the Emcarcadero and than turns west at Fisherman's Wharf. The piers going north from the Ferry Bldg are the uneven numbers. Pier 43 1/2 will be past Pier 39 consequently.

You guys are great. I don't even have to do my research about BART. That's why I love Fodors.

I hope 2:30 is OK for Patrick.

Tom, I am sorry you won't be in SF. I was looking forward to meeting you. We will definitely have a toast for Diablo. Go Chargers!!

Paula, when you leave the Terminal, cross the first few lanes of traffic to the center island and look for the sign for BART shuttle, it is on the side of the parking lot which you will be facing.

thereyet

Paula:

Patrick and I were chatting on the email last night, he said 2:30 is OK. See ya then.

LoveItaly, don't you mean "east toward the Ferry Bldg"?

dmlove-Yes I think it's east although I would have to look at the map but I know where the station is in relation to everything else so I'm good.

If I am running a little late, I will just grab a taxi to Fisherman's Wharf. It's going to very strange to be in SF without a car.

LoveItaly, Let me know as soon as you hear from Toedtoes. I may be renting a car after all!!

Paula, at OAK look for signs to AirBART - it's a bus to BART $3, the ride is about 1/2 hour, the wait for the bus may be 10-15'.

From Embarcadero BART you can take the street car F, it stops at pier 43.

Can I meet you somewhere to get your bag to keep it at work till dinner?

This is the link to MUNI map
http://transit.511.org/static/providers/maps/SF_712200711012.pdf

And about BART: you can take any train that says SF, SFO, Daly City, Millbrae - they all go through San Francisco (don't confuse yourself with "Fremont" it will take you the wrong way!!)

Hello Faina, put me under the YES list and quite soon toedtoes or I will respond regarding what her status is, probably in the next day or two!

I won't know for sure until next Monday night - after my boss comes back from vacation. It will all depend on if any "emergencies" crop up during this week while she's gone...

WoooooHooooo, this is going to be fun. Poor Tom doesn't know what he is going to be missing....but I understand, I will leave my Ipod at home as no one else will be interested.

thereyet

Oh and Tom, see if you can scrounge up some real Footy ducats while you are there.

Now THAT would be fun!

ty

Thereyet - if you'd put some quality Canadian music on that there iPod, I might be interested...

(and quality does NOT equal Shania, Celine, or Alanis)

Tt, well give me some hints and I will get busy.

thereyet

thereyet,

Please explain/describe Footy ducats. I have never been to London and have no clue what you are talking about.

Tom

Toadtoes, I just found this cool site. Do you know any of these groups?

Go to list...then artists.

thereyet

T, Footy Ducats = soccer tickets.

Footy is a common term for soccer in GB.

Ducats from the urban dictionary...

3. ducat

Ancient word for a gold coin, originating from Venice,1284 AD. Still used in some languages..(Serbian, Croatian...)
Also, an admission ticket.



thereyet

Tom, you are going to LOVE London, and you are going to WISH you had more then four days there.

Me? I could spend a month there.

thereyet

<<Toadtoes, I just found this cool site. Do you know any of these groups?

Go to list...then artists.>>

What website?

Hint:

Basically, if they aren't signed on by a major US record label, you can bet they're quality Canadian.


Obvious Answer:

Look up maplemusic.com and you'll find a lot of good ones.

Try Starling, Blackie and the Rodeo Kings, Stephen Fearing, Tom Wilson, Gordie Sampson, Joel Kroeker, Lynn Miles for a start. Those are some of my favorites (on maplemusic).

Oh sorry, check this.

http://www.canadianmusic.com/

thereyet

thereyet,

Thank you for the heads up on 'football' tickets! And yes, I really do know what I will be missing next Friday night in San Francisco! There are so many of you I have wanted to meet for a long time. Maybe we can put together a GTG next fall when I do my driving tour of the US?

But can you blame a person for not turning down four FREE nights in London? That added with the fact that I will be seeing my favorite 'US Football' team play in London!!

I know that all of you will have a great time next Friday. So toast Diablo and I will toast all of you while I am London.

Tom

Of course we can have a GTG when you are "on the road again".

thereyet

Oh, and this makes 300 posts on Faina fabulous thread.

thereyet

Tom, I'm sorry you won't be there but we wiull definitely be toasting Diablo, and you having a great time in London.

I'm confused, though. Is it still at 6:30? Is there a pre GTG for lunch? We are driving up Friday morning so either way, we will be there!

cat, there's not a pre-GTG lunch that I know of, but Patrick, Lee, Paula and maybe LoveItaly will be taking a boat ride around the harbor at 2:30. We're meeting at Fisherman's Wharf if you would like to join us.

OH, and I will be on the boat ride too.

And I won't

Yes:
Abranz
Cat and Mr Cat
Chiao and Leone
Faina
Linda
LoveItaly
Patrick and Lee
Paula
P_M
Ronda and Dan
Shanghainese
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
JanisJ
Kal
LucieV
Surfergirl
ToedToes
TrippinKPJ

o tom, i was so looking forward to meeting you.
but to pass up this opportunity to visit london would be sheer lunacy.
please do put up your london pictures.
it is one of my favourite cities and i just don't visit often enough.
i still drool over your paris photos as i count down days to my trip.
and you know we will be holding you to your fall trip.
cheers diablo!

Hello agranz, it will be so lovely to meet you since we "met" on the Paris GTG thread! I am so glad you will be able to join us and know you will have a delightful time.

hi loveitaly,
you have been so helpful with the paris posts and all the members here seem to be so fond of you.
i am simply delighted to have this oppty to meet you.

Checking in to say thanks to Faina for planning this big party and thanks to Paula for e-mailing me as I have been buried under a pile of work. TrippinKPJ, e-mail me at linda_lipsius@yahoo.com. I work in San Jose and would love to have someone with me in the commuter lane on the way to SF on a Friday night. Can't wait to see you all.

Hello all! I am a new Fodorite having been invited by a friend to post in her Paris Trip. Just happened to see this GTG in San Francisco but would like to join so I can meet some Fodorites in the Bay Area. Sounds like a fun group!

Please put me in the maybe section for now as I am on a conference all week next week, ending hopefully in the early afternoon on Friday. There might be a chance that I will be exhausted but I will know for sure by Friday morning how I'm holding up.

Looking forward to meeting you all!

Framboise, I do hope you will be up to joining us! You will have fun I know as everyone that is attending are fun and very interesting. Every SF GTG we have had has been wonderful.

And trippinkkpj, I sure hope you will be able to accept Linda's great offer..I have always wanted to meet you!

And yes dear Faina, thank you for setting up this GTG. See you the 24th!

Thank you all, but I cannot accept somebody else's credits. ThereYet found and called this place, he will make reservations. And he wrote to Katie for goodies that he'll deliver.

All I'm doing is the list.

Yes:
Abranz
Cat and Mr Cat
Chiao and Leone
Faina
Framboise
LindaL
LoveItaly
Patrick and Lee
Paula
P_M
Ronda and Dan
Shanghainese
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
JanisJ
Kal
LucieV
Surfergirl
ToedToes
TrippinKPJ

Thanks Linda, I'll send you an email.
LoveItaly- i think I'm a yes, but need to work out the details before I make it official.

My boss will be back on Monday, so I'll know for sure if I can get any time off, but I'm thinking that I might get more leverage for taking the full day if I were going on a cruise in the Bay also, instead of just going for dinner...

Toed, the weather is great these days, you'll love the cruise!

Great idea toed, it will be so much fun to have you and LoveItaly on the cruise with us.

SO may not make it, but I will be there regardless. And I'd love the cruise.

Here's the deal - if he doesn't come, I will have to drive up by myself, which is fine, but driving in SF scares me. What would be the easiest way for me to get there? I'm sure I'll come up the 5.

Yes:
Abranz
Cat(Mrs)
Chiao and Leone
Faina
Framboise
LindaL
LoveItaly
Patrick and Lee
Paula
P_M
Ronda and Dan
Shanghainese
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
Cat(Mr)
DMlove
JanisJ
Kal
LucieV
Surfergirl
ToedToes
TrippinKPJ

cat -- Take I-5 to I-580 towards Oakland, then I-80 West over the Bay Bridge to San Francisco. Which exit to take depends on where you want to park. Safe Travels!

Okay Faina, move me up to the "Yes"! And thanks again to Linda for the ride.

Kicking up KPJ

Yes:
Abranz
Cat(Mrs)
Chiao and Leone
Faina
Framboise
LindaL
LoveItaly
Patrick and Lee
Paula
P_M
Ronda and Dan
Shanghainese
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
TrippinKPJ
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
Cat(Mr)
DMlove
JanisJ
Kal
LucieV
Surfergirl
ToedToes

Shanghainese is correct...but there is a connector I205 from I5 to I580. Then just follow the signs to SF. Stay on the right when exiting the bridge and follow the signs to Embarcadero, go left on Embarcadero a few blocks to Broadway. Just at the top of the short hill, you will go right onto Samsome....park it. The Resto is on the right up on the corner.

thereyet

Thanks! If I get there in time, I'll try for the boat ride. Ty, would I use the same exits? I am staying at the same hotel as Neo, is that close to the restaurant?

I meant thanks to both Shanghainese AND ty!

This is getting to be a big group. I look forward to meeting everybody. Should be a lot of fun!

Hi Faina: I tried to e-mail you but when I tried to send it wouldn't work. Would you please e-mail me the details of the GTG? LoveItaly told me on another thread to check it out and try to come. Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks, Giovanna.

giovannatravels@yahoo.com

Hi Giovanna, I don't know for sure if Faina has her computer at home hooked up yet so I will give you the information.

The GTG will be this coming Friday evening Oct. 24th.

Here is the website where the GTG will be held.

http://henryshunanrestaurant.com/

Oh I hope you two can join us, that would be wonderful!

The time is 6:30pm but I think I and Toedtoes will try to get there around 6:00pm to be in the Lounge to greet early arrivals as thereyet probably won't be able to make it before 7:00pm I believe due to work.

Giovanna please email if you have any questions. Keeping my fingers crossed we will see you two!

I suggest just dropping DH off at the door then find parking, then the reverse for the return home.

I will be looking for parking in the neighborhood myself. I seem to get lucky even if it means a couple of blocks walk. It is mainly a business neighborhood so much of the parking frees up after the workday is over.

thereyet

cat, if you want to go to the Red and white fleet, just continue on Embarcadero till you pass Pier thirty nine. There is a parking lot just past the Pier 39 on the right. I believe this is where the ferry is for the cruise.

If I am wrong, some one is sure to correct me.

thereyet

HELLO FODORITES!
This is my first posting though I’ve been learning a lot from your helpful travel tips for our last few trips. Yesterday we were in the city for a tennis double tournament and we decided to have a quick bite afterwards. I quickly suggested Henry Hunan as I had been reading about it on this thread and will not be able to join the GTG next week. Since you all have been kind and generous with your travel tips, I thought I should share our experience as a preview to those who’s never been there. Warning: it’s good & bad, but hopefully my report will help you avoid the bad.
OUR BACKGROUND:
We eat in San Francisco two to three times a month but mostly French, Italian or Japanese, we hardly eat Chinese in the city because we absolutely don’t know where to go. Our AA dining mileage once led us to a large but charming restaurant inside Chinatown called Four Seasons which was enjoyable. Before that, we did eat at a great chinese restaurant on Geary called Ton Kiang about 10-15 years ago, but it’s no longer there. From time to time, we do eat chinese food in the suburbs around San Francisco. .
THE PARKING
We couldn’t find any street parking within 2 blocks from the restaurant so we decided to pay the $10 parking flat fee at the very convenient public parking that was practically next door to the restaurant.
THE PLACE:
As we entered the restaurant, I could understand why you all picked this place: there is an empty bar with square dining tables upfront and an empty private dining room for 45 people all the way in the back while the main dining hall is spacious and empty. Any of those two private areas would be perfect for a big group. However, we weren’t impressed by the black grouted grey tiled flooring or the black grime covered red carpet islands where the tables were grouped together. On the wall, we saw colorful glowing neon lights spelling Chinatown and Tsing Tao beer along with framed pictures of the various food dishes that they serve. We were worried about getting a table without reservation, but it turned out that there were only 11 diners in the main dining hall with about 30 something formica tables at 7pm. The owner took our order and the bus boy slash waiter efficiently brought the food to our table.
THE APPETIZER:
We were so hungry that we instantly devoured the much recommended Diana’s meatpie which came to our table within 5 minutes after we ordered. It’s really a large crispy sandwich of two thin pancakes filled with some sticky taco meat filler with subtle chinese indian herbs and julienned greens. We were glad that we took the lady owner’s advice on her ‘must try’ appetizer recommendation, it was simply delicious!
THE MAIN COURSE:
It took about 10 minutes for our “must try” smoked ham with string beans to come to our table. Much to our disappointment, the string beans appeared limp,overcooked and oily, I’m talking about dripping sticky oily. What we were not prepared for was the taste. There was a strange diesel petrol smell in this particular dish. We all gave up on that dish and hoped to God that our second ‘must try’ dish, would be better. Well the Hunan velvet chicken gave out the same diesel smell, so we concluded that it must have come from the oil, maybe they accidentally spilled something. I’m sure they won’t be using the same oil next week when you all get there. We reached for the hot tea to cut the nauseating smell and oily taste before we paid and left the restaurant. We all agreed that the best food we had was the bowl of steamrice beside the meatpie appetizer.

LOL, how very nice of you to post Midpeninsular especially since this is your ONE AND ONLY post on Fodor's under your new screen name.

I was wondering when you would chime in to make a comment or two about our GTG.

What an odd post. Oh well.

Paula, now that Mr. Kat is likely not going, I think I amy fly up I can still get Jet Blue for a decent price, and as I will now onnly stay one night, its a wash cost wise. Are you flying out of San Diego? There is a light that will get me to Oak around 12:20. Could we meet up and take the Bart together?

Lovely post MP. I do agree the Diana's meat pie is great. Did you try it with their peanut sauce? That is really the way to have it.

cat, I will miss meeting Mr. cat, but you will be sooo much more refreshed for having flown. See above for BART directions from Oakland to SF.

ty

Hi cat! I am glad to see that you are flying instead of driving. That is a long drive especially since you will be on your own. We sure look forward to seeing you again!

Yeah cat, now you will have time for some shopping...for shoes!

thereyet

Gosh, who WAS that, LoveItaly?

I sure wish I could be there. Looking forward to the report.

Hello ncounty, I wish you could be with us also! It will be a fun evening. Regarding your question, I don't wish to answer it here dear one.

ncounty, there ares still seats left on my flight. COme on! You can do it!!!

I am so excited, and while I will love for you all to meet Mr. Kat, he is doing the right thing, as it is his twins' b-day Friday night.

And thereyet, I am sorry to say, after bringing two pairs of boots back from Paris, I must swear off any shoe stores. (We won't be near that Cole Haan store anyways, right?)

Lovie, you are so cute. I really wouldn't have minded the drive. Sometimes driving is the only time I get to myself! But this will be easier, and I can get back in time for DD's soccer game on Saturday now.

See you all very soon!

I AM going to try to make it as well. There are decent fares on United; I just have to check my work schedule that morning and see if I am already booked or not. Faina- please put me on the maybe list for now, .

Oh ncounty, if you can that would be wonderful! Will you bring your son? I always love reading about him he sounds so delightful.

Cat, no shoe shopping for me either. I do understand about driving and having time alone..I use to feel that way also, lol. Turn on the music and just GO.

Chuckling, LoveItaly, my son is a quiet hoot....did you ever read the restaurant review he wrote that I posted? I sent it to the restaurant (which has been listed as Fodor's top ten in the world!) and the owner finally saw my son's comments and I was notified that they want him to come in for a VIP experience.

Unfortunately, he will be in school that day and won't be with me....but that will free me up to live it up in SF! I am working hard on trying to make it, .

Yes ncounty, I sure do remember your son's restaurant review!

I wasn't thinking..of course he has school on Friday. Well please tell him one of these days I would love to meet him.

ncounty, I hope you and everyone else on the "maybe" list can come. I don't get out to SF very often so I want to meet as many Fodorites as possible.

I am sooo looking forward to meeting you guys....I promise, if I am not booked to work that day, I'll be there.

OK - its time to fish or cut bait. I've been trying to work out a complicated situation involving Tahoe, Sacramento and SF this week and next. Kept thinking I could do it all - but the details are still up in the air.

Sooooo - move me from the "maybe" list to "probably not". Things could still change tho'.

If I'm not at Incline Friday night, I'll try to stop by the restaurant - don't count me for dinner. I can just drop in and schmooze and watch you all eat. If I am up at Incline - I'll be toasting y'all w/ free margaritas at the Hacienda

midpeninsula,
ton kiang is still there on geary. it is my favourite place for dim sum.
my only regret is that i don't eat there often enough.

Dang it janisj, I wanted to personally thank you for whacking me upside the head a couple of times when planning that London/Spain trip.

thereyet

Unfortunately, I have gone from a Yes to a No. We have to go out of town to attend a memorial service of a close friend next weekend. I will miss meeting you all.

LOL, did I overstep an inner circle boundary to deserve your sarcasm Loveitaly? My sincere apologies if commenting is reserved only for senior Fodorites. I thought this board is about sharing personal experience to help others.
I only wrote about our spotty experience because we were so impressed by E Tutto Qua where the previous March GTG was held so we had assumed Henry Hunan would be another Fodorite secret gem. Henry Hunan might have been great at one time but must have declined ever since judging from the serious lack of customers and dirty appearance. To highlight the positive again, the meat pie was enjoyable even without the peanut sauce which they apparently forgot to serve us.
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I found some recent internet reviews of Henry Hunan which mentioned the unusual weird taste that we thought was an accidental contamination in their oil:

I'M NOT A PICKY EATER AT ALL...but this place was rude and disgusting.
Before you read, let me first say that it was my first time there and that I always order the most standard dish before trying other stuff to check out their quality....
So I ordered the Orange Chicken for take out and $10 later I got balled up questionable chicken breaded and marinated in slimy grease. I bravely tasted it only to be REPULSED BY SOME FUNKY TASTE...ugh
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THIS IS THE FIRST MEAL I'VE ACTUALLY REGRETTED IN A LONG TIME. I've been to the Henry's Hunan over in SOMA and always enjoyed it. Is it my imagination or is this location a LOT worse?! Everything we had was sooooo greasy. I literally feel sick right now, and we finished a couple of hours ago. Normally I'm eager to take leftoevers.. I'll even feast on a Chinese leftover breakfast, but I couldn't be paid to take them from here. I'd go through the list of what we ordered, but it's not even worth it. There are so many restaurants close by.... steer clear.

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I WASN"T REALLY IMPRESSED. The food isn't necessarily bad but, this place always seems like a rat trap you would see on the TV show "Dirty Jobs." I kind of feel like it's a Dirty Job to eat here. The tables are always sopping wet after they wipe it down and so are the plates and silverware they bring you as well. The service is fast and the food is cheap.

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BAD SERVICE, BORDERLINE RUDE WAITRESS. She might as well said "You order food, you eat, and you get out". After taking the order the food came lightning fast. I ordered Beef and Broccoli and Fried Rice. The rice was good, the Beef and Broccoli was really greasy and had a FUNKY FLAVOR.
service = rude but fast
food = greasy and nasty (except for the rice)
parking = Impossible

Cat, I agree, that's an odd post! By the way, this weekend was a Nike Marathon, no wonder there was no street parking! We're going Friday, it's a weeknight. Food? Well, we'll help them stay in business

Yes:
Abranz
Cat(Mrs)
Chiao and Leone
Faina
Framboise
Giovanna
LindaL
LoveItaly
Patrick and Lee
Paula
P_M
Ronda and Dan
Shanghainese
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
Kal
LucieV
Surfergirl
ToedToes

LoveItaly, I always have computer with Internet access at home! I just don't have time to use it, that's all.

Giovanna, you've got mail from

faina22@hotmail.com

And for new people who're joining, look for a Fodor's orange tote bag to recognize the group (if I can be there early)

Question to everybody: should I take Midpeninsula off the attendee list?

Oh, yeah, she is CiaoLeone on this list.

Sorry Ncounty, I've missed you, I sure want to see you again!

Yes:
Abranz
Cat(Mrs)
Faina
Framboise
Giovanna
LindaL
LoveItaly
Patrick and Lee
Paula
P_M
Ronda and Dan
Shanghainese
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
Kal
LucieV
Ncounty
Surfergirl
ToedToes

And one more time, there are many Hunan's in San Francisco, we're going to 924 Sacramento St @ Vallejo.

<<the peanut sauce which they apparently forgot to serve us. >>

Haha, that the thing, you have to ask for it. LOL

thereyet

cat-Yes that would be great if you want to take BART together. And ncounty if you can meet us, too, that would be even better.

There is a chance I will be getting a car. Some of that depends if LoveItaly needs a ride home on Sat or we decide to go out of the city on Sat (Muir Woods?) if I don't drive LI home.

Midpenisula-I don't think LoveItaly's comment had anything to do with a Fodor's inner circle. If you really are a long time poster, why did you register with a new name and have only used it once? Obviously you can see why we are confused. And if you were at the March GTG at E Tutto Qua, then identify yourself.

Faina-Did you mean 924 Sansome Street for the Henry Hunan's?

Yea!!! I will be able to attend....just bought my plane tickets. I fly into SFO. Faina and Paula, it will be great to see you again! I am looking forward to meeting everyone else.....

I won't be able to ride with you Paula since I'll be at SFO and you'll be at OAK. Let's plan to meet up mid to late afternoon with Cat when we all get into town.

OUCH! SANSOME, SANSOME, I'll write it down 500 times Thank you, Paula!

Yes:
Abranz
Cat(Mrs)
Faina
Framboise
Giovanna
LindaL
LoveItaly
Ncounty
Patrick and Lee
Paula
P_M
Ronda and Dan
Shanghainese
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
Kal
LucieV
Surfergirl
ToedToes

ncounty-Don't know what time you are getting in? Right now we are all meeting at Fisherman's Wharf for a Bay Cruise. The cruise is at 2:30. Will you be able to make that?

Paula, when do you arrive in Oakland? I was going to email you but I am not positive I have the right email. I think I have it but do you sill have mine? It is my screen name at aol. Maybe we can figure out a place to meet.

cat, Oakland International is a wonderful small airport and it will be very easy to find each other. There are only two terminals, so even if you are in different terminals it is no problem at all.

If yo are both taking the BART shuttle, the island where the shuttle picks you up is a good place to meet.

thereyet

Bruce is right. AirBART now makes only one stop. Exchange your cell phone numbers in e-mail.

Paula- I land at 1:13pm so I don't think I'll get to the cruise on time. I'll see you guys at the dinner then.

Yes:
Abranz
Cat(Mrs)
Chiao and Leone
Faina
Framboise
Giovanna
LindaL
LoveItaly
Ncounty
Patrick and Lee
Paula
P_M
Ronda and Dan
Shanghainese
Stu Dudley
ThereYet
Trvl Maven and Mr Maven

Maybe:
DMlove
Kal
Surfergirl
ToedToes

When will those 4 know if they're coming or not?

I am going to call the Resto now and will tell them we have 21, but I will tell them give us + or - 5, to be more rough about it.

Still nothing from Katie, should I drop her another EM?

thereyet

Yes, sure! Katie's posting on Fodor's, so now is good time to e-mail.

Is it too early to plan the next GTG? April 25 2009 Petaluma butter and eggs day parade. Mark your calendars.

Now back to Friday GTG.