Na Pali Coast - Kauai
Mar 6th, 2003, 05:24 PM
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Na Pali Coast - Kauai
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Has anyone recently gone on one of those sailing trips on the Na Pali Coast of Kauai. I'm looking for a recommendation for which tour operator to us. Thanks for your advice in advance.
Has anyone recently gone on one of those sailing trips on the Na Pali Coast of Kauai. I'm looking for a recommendation for which tour operator to us. Thanks for your advice in advance.
Mar 6th, 2003, 05:47 PM
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Greg, we went on a great catamaran sailing/snorkeling trip out of Hanalei Bay, the first (and I believe only) operator to leave from the North Shore. Captain is a true "old salt", you get to paddle out on an outrigger, and by leaving from the north shore, you see the best part of the coast. Here's the website:
http://www.captainsundown.com/snorkelsail.html
I'm assuming you're going in summer...too rough in winter months.
http://www.captainsundown.com/snorkelsail.html
I'm assuming you're going in summer...too rough in winter months.
Mar 7th, 2003, 06:09 PM
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Sue...where does it say that? I was curious and looked in my copy of Kauai Revealed, and couldn't find any mention of Captain Sundown, good or bad. Are you sure you don't have your captains mixed up? 
Mar 8th, 2003, 04:53 AM
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Joan, The Ultimate Kauai Guidebook says the third north shore catamaran, Captain Sundown, is a company we can't recommend. We are leaving Thursday, March 13th for Kauai and I am leaning toward going on Holoholo Charters. The website shows it is $156 pp. Anyone suggest a tour company to discount this or just bite the bullet and pay it?
Mar 8th, 2003, 05:00 PM
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We also took HoloHolo Charters out of Port Allen a year ago. It was an awesome trip. We lucked out as the operators told us that it was one of the calmest days they had had all winter. We were able to to do the Niihau trip that you snorkel off the island. Actually we snorkeled closer to the bird santuary that is across from Niihau.
I was impressed with this company as they actually seemed to care about the environment. On the way there and back anytime they saw something floating in the water they would take it out. While we were still anchored
after lunch somebody accidently dropped a metal fork into the ocean and they went to retrieve it. They found it but now I'm kind of wondering how. Wasn't the water really deep? They also told us right away that they would not go chasing after the whales but they needed to come to us.
My husband told me if I would have been listening it was an informative trip. I was so mesmerized by the beauty I think I was in a trance.
I didn't find this to be a big party boat but that wasn't what we were looking for. I would highly recommend the Na Pali trip whether it is with HoloHolo or another company.
I was impressed with this company as they actually seemed to care about the environment. On the way there and back anytime they saw something floating in the water they would take it out. While we were still anchored
after lunch somebody accidently dropped a metal fork into the ocean and they went to retrieve it. They found it but now I'm kind of wondering how. Wasn't the water really deep? They also told us right away that they would not go chasing after the whales but they needed to come to us.
My husband told me if I would have been listening it was an informative trip. I was so mesmerized by the beauty I think I was in a trance.
I didn't find this to be a big party boat but that wasn't what we were looking for. I would highly recommend the Na Pali trip whether it is with HoloHolo or another company.
Mar 8th, 2003, 05:41 PM
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iceeu2,
I guess you're doing the Niihau & Napali morning trip ? I know we didn't pay $150pp, we did the so-ccalled sunset trip which is about 3-6pm. Depending on seas, it gets as far up the coast as Kalalau - you can see Kee from there - before turning back & returning via caves/waterfalls etc, awesome trip, hospitable crew. In fact I'm wearing my Holoholo T-shirt now tho' I see they don't give them away anymore (last year you got one if you made online reservation).
Enjoy your trip.
Paul
I guess you're doing the Niihau & Napali morning trip ? I know we didn't pay $150pp, we did the so-ccalled sunset trip which is about 3-6pm. Depending on seas, it gets as far up the coast as Kalalau - you can see Kee from there - before turning back & returning via caves/waterfalls etc, awesome trip, hospitable crew. In fact I'm wearing my Holoholo T-shirt now tho' I see they don't give them away anymore (last year you got one if you made online reservation).
Enjoy your trip.
Paul
Mar 10th, 2003, 12:45 AM
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icee, what edition of the guidebook do you have? I have the 4th edition and can't find it - thought that was the newest! Anyway, if you could give me a page number, I'd appreciate that...we enjoyed Captain Sundown, and maybe I'll email wizardpub and ask them about it.
Mar 10th, 2003, 07:40 AM
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I also went on Captain Sundown for the reason that they leave from the north shore and you get to see the best of the Na Pali coast. We truly enjoyed the trip and especially loved the outrigger paddle in and out. The crew was great and best of all it is a small group of about 16. Would recommend it to anyone.
Mar 10th, 2003, 07:47 AM
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Hi Greg,
I did Captain Sundown out of Hanalei unless I have the name wrong. I did it 3 years ago.
This is just one honest opinion. If you have never done a tour like this in the Mediterranean or red sea, or (guessing) the Caribbean than by all means go for it.
I was not so impressed. The waters were choppy (summer) and the fish were better in the Red Sea. Someone once told me that I would miss the Napali Coast if I did not do this boat tour. I was to Kauai about 5 times before I took this tour. It was fun and a day filler but it did not strike me as a must do. Now hiking the Kalalau trail in my opinion is a must do. The views perched above a bluff into the distance are striking. I think being on the edge of the land on that trail you are more in touch with the unique quality of the landscape. That was my experience anyway.
Just have to judge your sea legs and the number of trips you have done like this. That is all I am saying. I have sent people that have loved the boat trips it just was not so incredible for me. Landscape was dry the year I went and reminded me of similar boat trips in Greece, Egypt,Turkey.
I did Captain Sundown out of Hanalei unless I have the name wrong. I did it 3 years ago.
This is just one honest opinion. If you have never done a tour like this in the Mediterranean or red sea, or (guessing) the Caribbean than by all means go for it.
I was not so impressed. The waters were choppy (summer) and the fish were better in the Red Sea. Someone once told me that I would miss the Napali Coast if I did not do this boat tour. I was to Kauai about 5 times before I took this tour. It was fun and a day filler but it did not strike me as a must do. Now hiking the Kalalau trail in my opinion is a must do. The views perched above a bluff into the distance are striking. I think being on the edge of the land on that trail you are more in touch with the unique quality of the landscape. That was my experience anyway.
Just have to judge your sea legs and the number of trips you have done like this. That is all I am saying. I have sent people that have loved the boat trips it just was not so incredible for me. Landscape was dry the year I went and reminded me of similar boat trips in Greece, Egypt,Turkey.
Mar 10th, 2003, 08:09 AM
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Alohaaaa All,
Happy Monday to all the usual suspects?
We like laying on either Salt Pond, Kekaha, Polihale or Hanakapai Beaches during the winter months watching a lot of tourists "chumming" the waters off the NaPali. ;-)
292...or maybe sooner?
Kal
Happy Monday to all the usual suspects?
We like laying on either Salt Pond, Kekaha, Polihale or Hanakapai Beaches during the winter months watching a lot of tourists "chumming" the waters off the NaPali. ;-)
292...or maybe sooner?
Kal
Mar 10th, 2003, 08:13 AM
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Just looked over your post of recommendations in Kauai Ultimate Guide. While I told you earlier I don't think this is a must do event. I don't think there is any problem with Captain Sundown if this kind of trip appeals to you.
I have been using that guide book for a few summers now. I did notice this last summer that they did not like some places that I love. The criticism by the book just did not hold true and seemed flip. This made me think some may have rubbed the authors the wrong way in the community and the result was a slight in the book.
There is a great shave ice place in Hanalei in a blue trailer as you drive down the main drag. The couple is moving on in years, very friendly and hard working. They always give kids an extra treat in there shave ice. Ultimate guide tells you that you get attitude here. They also down play Lapperts because of the cost. I think people miss out if they don't try Lapperts even if the cost is high. 37% butterfat when most ice cream only carries 17%YUM YUM YUM!!! PS the little blue trailer uses Lapperts ice cream on the cheap!!
Ok I guess these sound like silly examples but it bugs me when a guide book on such a small island trashes a small business without qualifying it. I would not exclude Captain Sundown based on their opinion. I am sure that book and author have political clout on the island. There are a number of Hanalei home owners who would love to see an end to all those boat tours.
Honohono does look fun in the commercial, I can still here the beating drums. Just remember you will be on board with about 75 people. Think of what the engines of that boat do to scare off marine life versus the silent sail of Captain Sundown (16person max). Just a thought if this is something that you want to do.
PS thanks for filling my head with thoughts of Kauai on this cold (19degrees) NYC morning!
Just looked over your post of recommendations in Kauai Ultimate Guide. While I told you earlier I don't think this is a must do event. I don't think there is any problem with Captain Sundown if this kind of trip appeals to you.
I have been using that guide book for a few summers now. I did notice this last summer that they did not like some places that I love. The criticism by the book just did not hold true and seemed flip. This made me think some may have rubbed the authors the wrong way in the community and the result was a slight in the book.
There is a great shave ice place in Hanalei in a blue trailer as you drive down the main drag. The couple is moving on in years, very friendly and hard working. They always give kids an extra treat in there shave ice. Ultimate guide tells you that you get attitude here. They also down play Lapperts because of the cost. I think people miss out if they don't try Lapperts even if the cost is high. 37% butterfat when most ice cream only carries 17%YUM YUM YUM!!! PS the little blue trailer uses Lapperts ice cream on the cheap!!
Ok I guess these sound like silly examples but it bugs me when a guide book on such a small island trashes a small business without qualifying it. I would not exclude Captain Sundown based on their opinion. I am sure that book and author have political clout on the island. There are a number of Hanalei home owners who would love to see an end to all those boat tours.
Honohono does look fun in the commercial, I can still here the beating drums. Just remember you will be on board with about 75 people. Think of what the engines of that boat do to scare off marine life versus the silent sail of Captain Sundown (16person max). Just a thought if this is something that you want to do.
PS thanks for filling my head with thoughts of Kauai on this cold (19degrees) NYC morning!
Mar 10th, 2003, 08:17 AM
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Just one more note about Captain Sundown: The reason we chose this trip was becasue they actually sail as opposed to motoring all over with a sail up. Since I prefer sailing over all other activities, the combination of sailing and seeing the Na Pali coast was too good to pass up.
I do agree with Sarah about the whole politics of sailing out of the north shore. You'd be amazed at the local politics with regard to this. Actually the captain will talk about it if you ask. Good Sailing topic!!!
I do agree with Sarah about the whole politics of sailing out of the north shore. You'd be amazed at the local politics with regard to this. Actually the captain will talk about it if you ask. Good Sailing topic!!!
Mar 10th, 2003, 11:11 AM
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Sarah, 19 degrees?!?!?!?
Suzie...did it get down that low on your side of town last night?
We were missing Kauai on the flight from Lihue to Honolulu!
You are right about the politics of tours on Kauai.
Mrs Kal was getting pizzed when I was watching the local cable channel's broadcast of those public meetings 2yrs ago. Fascinating.
Not as fun as watching our local fave group of "Partick Henry's" tho.
Kal
Suzie...did it get down that low on your side of town last night?
We were missing Kauai on the flight from Lihue to Honolulu!
You are right about the politics of tours on Kauai.
Mrs Kal was getting pizzed when I was watching the local cable channel's broadcast of those public meetings 2yrs ago. Fascinating.
Not as fun as watching our local fave group of "Partick Henry's" tho.
Kal
Mar 10th, 2003, 11:25 AM
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Joan- I have the 4th edition of the Ultimate Kauai Guidebook.. The section your are looking for is on page 162 under Power Catamarans...Ok guys, we leave in 3 more days!! Give me the last minute skinny for anything we just must absolutely know!!! I'M SO EXCITED & I JUST CAN'T HIDE IT.....AND I THINK I LIKE IT!!!!!!
Mar 10th, 2003, 11:44 AM
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Hi again ICEU I just saw you were at the Ilikai on Oahu. I have stayed in the main building of that hotel for 1-2months 3 summers in row back in the mid 90's. I like that hotel and I think you will be pleasantly surprised at what your money has awarded you. Try to get into the main buiding if they give you an option. I have been told that the rooms facing the Marina (NOT MARINA ANNEX)have the best views but we have been happy with every view they ever gave us including city. Again we have only ever been in the main building. You are high up so the lights and the mountains as a back drop are dramatic. Most units are fairly nice with kitchens, lanais, table, couch and twin beds when I was there.
I like taking walks down in the Marina. You can do this late at night or early morning. Sometimes there are amaizing yahts parked there. I think you will like walking the stretch of Waikiki in the morning, picking up coffee, breakfast. You could walk to any great buffet in waikiki. My suggestions would be once at either the Royal Hawaiian, Moana Surfrider or the Orchid at the Halekulani. If you are big time breakfast girl then drive out the Kahala Mandarin Oriental.
Ok since you are right next to the Hilton you want to go over Friday night at 5:30 (I think) for the free show by their pool, fireworks after it is over.
PS Some trivia about that hotel. Remember the opening to Hawaii Five O when Dano was standing on a roof and holding Walki-Talki? That was the Ilikai. The Marina was the Marina used OR SO I AM TOLD in the opening to Giligans Island. The later may be a tall tale but I am sure about Hawaii Five O. How long are you on Oahu for?
I like taking walks down in the Marina. You can do this late at night or early morning. Sometimes there are amaizing yahts parked there. I think you will like walking the stretch of Waikiki in the morning, picking up coffee, breakfast. You could walk to any great buffet in waikiki. My suggestions would be once at either the Royal Hawaiian, Moana Surfrider or the Orchid at the Halekulani. If you are big time breakfast girl then drive out the Kahala Mandarin Oriental.
Ok since you are right next to the Hilton you want to go over Friday night at 5:30 (I think) for the free show by their pool, fireworks after it is over.
PS Some trivia about that hotel. Remember the opening to Hawaii Five O when Dano was standing on a roof and holding Walki-Talki? That was the Ilikai. The Marina was the Marina used OR SO I AM TOLD in the opening to Giligans Island. The later may be a tall tale but I am sure about Hawaii Five O. How long are you on Oahu for?
