More suggested reading

ttt

http://tinyurl.com/dk5esm

http://tinyurl.com/coyu95

Thank you for those links, Avrooster. I have taken some weeks off from the Fodors and TA research for my trip, but am now back on it. I really appreciate your posts.

http://tinyurl.com/c49ns3

A great "to the point" report on TA:

http://tinyurl.com/mep5q9

A great, quite detailed trip report on TA:

http://tinyurl.com/ngtzla

http://tinyurl.com/l43jjb

i am unable to read, can you come here and read to me??

Are you willing to pay for our plane ticket to Boston so I can read to you, Bob?

I guess these are for people who don't know about TripAdvisor.com ?

Here is another good one


http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g312741-i979-k3006392-Buenos_Aires_on_video_just_great-Buenos_Aires_Capital_Federal_District.html

A great, extremely detailed report:

http://tinyurl.com/koesmy

Oh yeah, that Was a good one !

http://tinyurl.com/m42vhh

I am glad that Las Nazarenes ( the Tourist Trap) was commented on.

This person definitely wrote an Excellent Information Filled Trip Report ....

the check is in the mail....

http://tinyurl.com/lkrbg8

Yes! Wasn't that the Best trip report ! ?
So well done, I really enjoyed it and she gave such good tips ..

About the Teatro Colón's reopening:

http://tinyurl.com/l7qu8r

A great, detailed trip report:

http://tinyurl.com/pteejz

Another great trip report on TA, with more chapters to come:

http://tinyurl.com/qgo6ql

Can I be so bold as to interject one of my older trip reports...(to northern Patagonia).. this one is for those of you out there who get nervous that "something could go wrong" -- in Argentina even wrong can be very right.

http://tinyurl.com/mhpajq

p.s. a very special thanks to Avrooster who was an invaluable hero in the saga.

Great reports!

http://tinyurl.com/mgm5rj

and

http://tinyurl.com/njd56d

A great report:

http://tinyurl.com/yetpnrp

Another great report:

http://tinyurl.com/yhv8xmp

And still another one:

http://tinyurl.com/yjrpjpx

A great thread!

http://tinyurl.com/yfryys3

Another great trip report!

http://tinyurl.com/y9ys9uu

Another one!

http://tinyurl.com/yfyah7f

Three great trip reports:

http://tinyurl.com/y9ddldl

http://tinyurl.com/y8fr8q6

http://tinyurl.com/yhv8xmp

And this one about restaurants:

http://tinyurl.com/yd4swpk

Thank you, TA!

Welcome back, Scarlett. I missed your posts!

FYI, Scarlett's latest post in this thread was on Sep 8, 09 at 5:00pm

AVrooster: I noticed that fact after I posted. Thanks

A nice, to-the-point trip report:

http://tinyurl.com/yajt24m

More to come.

http://tinyurl.com/ye8l5eo

I suggest reading the other trip reports penned by this great poster.

http://tinyurl.com/34kb7pa

A great trip report! Both informative and extremely entertaining.

Be sure to read the other chapters written by this wonderful poster.

http://tinyurl.com/33yfud7

A great report, for people in their twenties or so.

Another great report!

http://tinyurl.com/29stcvp

Thank you condu !

Here's another one .. very informative also:

http://tinyurl.com/29kfafy

As far as I can remember, all my "suggested reading" has been positive, which certainly is NOT the case with the above linked thread.

With reference to that thread, allow me to quote part of the answer of no less than the dean of TA Argentina posters, the world-famous DRDAWGGY: "...my wife and I had a wonderful experience with Angie during our short trip to the Northwest of Argentina. We found her to be extremely informative and helpful during our tour(s)..."

Furthermore, as always, I suggest forum readers do their own research, using Trip Advisor's search feature to find other comments about Angie, including my own, from four years ago, linked below.

http://tinyurl.com/jsgu8

Have a great time in our country.

A great report from a wonderful poster!

http://tinyurl.com/34ytyd5

Another great report!

http://tinyurl.com/36r8xbb

And another!

http://tinyurl.com/2f537mp

Have a great time in our country and a Happy New Year to all!

Great compilation of TRs. Thanks!

This is wonderful AV; how am I ever going to pack for trip to Charleston Sc...I wish I had internet access in the car! Maybe I should cancel and just read trip reports;

Mr. Money thinks I am totally crazy. LOL

UNTIL we arrive in "whatever" location and I say, the forum says skip this, do that....and he is amazed at all the information shared. And time saved.

Thanks AV; I am loving this! Happy New Year everyone..
(28 days and counting.......and I saw a Ya'll in your tr to Salta, AV!)

Great! Ya'all are hooked on this forum! ROTFLMAO!

And more!

http://tinyurl.com/25smvy6

Still more, from this great poster!

http://tinyurl.com/2eo6xrm

And still more, this one featuring Isabel!

http://tinyurl.com/4otc9f3

Another great trip report, also featuring Isabel!

http://tinyurl.com/49yewuu

AV, thanks again -- I missed this report.

A relatively brief trip report:

http://tinyurl.com/6h7evzr

When renting a car in Bariloche, stay away from a firm called Cumbres.

This is what this trip report says about them:

"One word of caution - we had problems with our car rental company, Cumbres (Martin) who does not care about customer service. Tried to scam more money out of us and did not even bother to meet us...left us standing on a street in Bariloche (after the 4-1/2 hr drive (by our guide at the lodge who had to return to Trevelin) He said he did NOT care if I wrote on the forums....so this is the warning..BE VERY AWARE. The car did not work properly (NOR was it the car we reserved) and he wanted to charge us to bring us an exchange car that worked. UH, This one did not.....why charge us MORE? It was definitely an ORDEAL and I would never recommend them."

Another great trip report on TA:

http://tinyurl.com/4rru66g

And another one, from a Scottish poster, who says:

"The Argentineans still obviously feel strongly that the Malvinas should be theirs, and they might well be right. Despite this we met nothing but courtesy when we presented our British passports."

http://tinyurl.com/49u5jlk

lol, deja vu ..
I come to Fodors and end up reading Trip Advisor

Déjà vu:

The above poster's previous post on this thread is dated on May 25, 10 at 9:55pm and provides a link to a TA thread in which a valued forum member was unfairly attacked, or so felt a significant majority of the other posters.

On the other hand, all of the links I provide in this thread are positive, or at least informative.

Have a great time in our country.

Sorry, is this only for you to post on ?
You can ask the editors to remove my joke ( obviously not understood) ...

Some comments posted above:

1) From seeksocean: "Thank you for those links, Avrooster. I have taken some weeks off from the Fodors and TA research for my trip, but am now back on it. I really appreciate your posts."

2) From Karmalaw: "p.s. a very special thanks to Avrooster who was an invaluable hero in the saga."

3) From yestravel: "Great compilation of TRs. Thanks!"

4) From moneyburns: "This is wonderful AV; how am I ever going to pack for trip to Charleston Sc...I wish I had internet access in the car! Maybe I should cancel and just read trip reports;"

5) From yestravel, again: "AV, thanks again -- I missed this report."

And THAT is what this forum and this thread are about: helping people who plan to travel to Argentina.

Add to that list tptr's comment.

BTW, tptr, the gentleman with the binoculars refers to yours truly.

Many Fodors readers and posters are not on TA and so would miss the often valuable information provided by AV Rooster in the "More Suggested Reading" threads.

I do read TA, and still find it useful to have these TRs in one place - and as reminders.

The goal of the Fodors Argentina Forum, as I understand it, is to provide a forum for Argentines, Ex-pats and frequent or recent visitors to Argentina to answer the travel questions posed by potential or returning visitors to this great country. I think this Forum is very useful...as are other Fodors products (travel books, for example). That is not to say that Trip Advisor, and it's Argentina Forum, are not equally important and useful.

No real need, IMO, for bitter remarks; there is no compitition here. We can all agree that we want to learn and share what we can about this country that we are all either interested in or addicted to.

Think Green - St. Patrick's Day, not money !
~MarnieWDC

A great Salta trip report from a wonderful (and savvy) poster!

Thank you, Ronnie (moreweird)!

http://tinyurl.com/69ebhoy

AV - so now you're highlighting Salta reports too??!? And my report to the NW was never featured...boo hoo

As a poster indicated in March 14 at 5.34 PM, anyone can add comments or links to other interesting posts here....

BTW, yestravel, may I have a link to your NW trip report?

Topping for anyone who may be interested.

Thank you, Amy_D!

Have a great time in our country.

Thank you from me too, AMY. Your re-consideration and re-instatement of this valuable thread is why Fodors has such a well-deserved, excellent reputation in the field.

I find Fodors such an important research and commentary tool for Argentine travel plans. And again, appreciate the trouble you have taken to restore this thread.

Easter Greetings,
~MarnieWDC

Prospective travelers come to travel forums to equip themselves with information about their destination. I, for one, am grateful to Fodors for permitting links from various sites that will allow the traveler to gather as much information as possible in an efficient and effective manner. Fodors is to be commended for rising above the inclination to ban useful information harvested from competitor sites. The real beneficiaries are travelers! Thank you, Amy and Fodors!

I'm with you, imaq!

If travelers can manage to find Fodor's, I'm sure they can manage to figure out how to work Tripadvisor.

Why are you trying to redirect Fodorites to Tripadvisor? Do you work for TA, avrooster?

Also, from the guidelines:

.... Please include a small explanation to make it easy for fellow members to decide whether or not the content is of interest to them.

"Another great report" is not an explanation

FYI, AV Rooster was blacklisted from Trip Advisor. That he is still willing to link valuable information from their site speaks volumes about his motivation.

There exists overwhelming evidence based on his many posts on the Fodors site to answer questions posed by travelers that his aim is to serve as a good will ambassador for his country.

That you may or may not want to take advantage of the information is your prerogative, of course. Denigrating the character of a fellow poster is not. Just my opinion, of course.

Fellow forum members iamq (not imaq, as spelled by Icuy) and Icuy are obviously most welcome to post their opinions here, whatever they may be, but their posts would be even more welcome if they brought their unlimited wisdom to the Argentina forum more often, instead of just for this purpose.

The fact that Icuy asks if I work for TA is so ridiculous that my tears barely allow me to see the keyboard. LOL!!!!

As drdawggy, the greatest ever Internet Argentina travel expert, would say, just my humble opinion, of course.

About the CLOSED http://www.fodors.com/community/south-america/where-is-the-great-thread-with-all-the-trs.cfm thread:

I suggest we all write to Amy_D asking her to completely DELETE it, so we can pretend this never happened and we can all live happily ever after.

Easter Greetings to everybody, as MarnieWDC taught me to say.

i can attest to AVR being interested in only one thing: Argentina and BA in particular...

he was invaluable to help to us in planning our trip and he graciously hosted us at his house... he and his wife are gracious hosts.

without his first hand info about BA today, i think the forum would be sadly lacking.

this type of posting is most welcome, imo....

You know, I think Icuy has a good idea for this thread:

A very brief description of the link referenced would make the TRs even more useful and accessible. Something like the mini notes under a photo.

For example: TR on the NOA by Yestravel.

So, thanks, Icuy for the idea. Have a nice day.

~MarnieWDC

I, personally, love the way AVR approach you to other forms in order to show you other valuable opinions.
AVR has no benefits from this, escept for the satisfaction of helping. Does it sound so wierd?? Well, I always thought He is a little ¨special¨but... in the best way.
Felices Pascuas para todos!!!!!
Flintstones/Angie

I have nothing against AV. I know nothing about him/her. I just thhink it is odd to post a whole series of links with absolutely no indication as to what them contain.

Opening anonymous links can be a good way to catch viruses, and I wondered why anyone interested in TA's forums would not just go there and browse on their own.

I can see the value of occasionally posting a link if a poster has an unanswered question here that has been covered well elsewhere, or if a poster want to further develop a discussion from another site.

and no, I don't have any tips or opinions about Argentina, but of course there are other countries sharing this SA forum...

sorry for typs above. My Blackberry is so small!

First, Amy, I also appreciate u reinstating this thread. Hopefully it will stay put this time. I agree with Dr. D words, "grateful to Fodors for permitting links from various sites that will allow the traveler to gather as much information as possible in an efficient and effective manner. Fodors is to be commended for rising above the inclination to ban useful information harvested from competitor sites. The real beneficiaries are travelers! "

Second AV, here's a link to our trip to NOA & to a quickie BA one that I forgot about!
http://www.fodors.com/community/south-america/the-fascinating-nw-of-arg-pt1.cfm
http://www.fodors.com/community/south-america/ba-is-even-more-wonderful-the-2nd-time-around.cfm

Thirdly, lcuy & iamq - I don't know if u have travelled to SA and used these boards to help u with your trips, but there is so much less info on the Fodor's SA board compared to say the Europe board. The advantage to me of AV bringing the TRs from TA to these boards in one comprehensive thread is that it adds to the richness of info that one can efficiently get from Fodor's. Of course I can go to TA (and I do) but I don't go there as regularly as I do with Fodor's. It's very easy to miss new TRs and to constantly have to do a search to find the latest reports is time consuming. The fact that AV takes the time to do this saves me time in doing my research and planning for my trip. I very much appreciate that, since as we all know researching and planning a trip can take lots of time. If u haven't experienced SA, I suggest u look into a future trip to SA...reviewing some of the TRs is a good way to find out why some of us are so passionate about SA....u can do ARG on this thread easily.

As suggested by editor AMY_D and Marnie, my future posts on this TR thread will include "a brief description of the link referenced".

Here goes: http://tinyurl.com/3wh6u4a

It is a quite informative "quick trip report" by nolesjags on TA.

A great trip report by TA forum member newyorker79, a frequent visitor to our country.

http://tinyurl.com/3l3g86g

Just need to get this great topic on the top again as I'm finding it invaluable organizing our trip.

Thank you, Clark55!

Would you believe that, a few months ago, some forum members tried to have this whole thread deleted?

Thankfully, reason prevailed.

Another great BA trip report, posted by frequent TA poster SCBlossom:

http://tinyurl.com/3jrvzfz

Have a great time in our country.

Thanks avrooster, I can't believe they would want to delete this thread, it's imo the best thread on fodors, it's making my trip so much easier to organize, better than any guide book.

Thank you again, Clark55!

"the best thread on fodors"!!!!

"better than any guide book"!!!!

LOL!!!

An informative trip report on TA from a mother and daughter who spent 6 days in BA:

http://tinyurl.com/3vfu6fj

Have a great time in our town.

A great trip report from a family with two kids who enjoyed BA and the Iguazú Falls during two weeks:

http://tinyurl.com/4ygl42v

Have a great time in our country.

A great BA trip report on TA from a frequent poster from India:

http://tinyurl.com/764yynm

Have a great time in our town.

Lessons from the negatives in the above report:

As I have said over and over, try not to take cabs waiting outside touristy places (have a radio taxi CALLED), particularly at night and NEVER pay cabs with bills larger than 20 pesos.

I agree about la Cabrera and the dog poop.

Everything else was between good and great, so I obviously agree!

Mr. Rooster,

TripAdvisor has now been "officially" been split off from Expedia. Maybe they will take you back.

In the U.S. TripAdvisor is pretty much worthless. When the third most favorite restaurant of (you name it town or city) is Applebee's, then you know the reviewers don't have a clue.

If I were you, I'd stay banned from TripAdvisor. As for me, I'm still trying to get my socks clean from my stay in Buenos Aires.

Might I suggest a NEW SUGGESTED READING THREAD for the NEW YEAR ?

Mr. Rooster, what do you think ?

Happy Holidays to all,

~MarnieWDC

I'm quite grateful for your suggestion, Chief DE Marnie.

However, while you may be the Chief DE here, I'm the OP of this thread and I disagree.

If I did as you say, this thread would sink out of sight and I don't believe anyone would want that. Right?

Happy Holidays to all. We can certainly agree on THAT. LOL!!!

Another great BA trip report on TA, described by its author as "somewhat thin", but I like it anyway:

http://tinyurl.com/7j23caf

Have a great time in our town.