First time to Chile for 2 weeks March/April
Feb 26th, 2015, 08:13 PM
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First time to Chile for 2 weeks March/April
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I have finally booked my flights to Chile for 2 weeks (two people), I am arriving on March 27th and departing on April 9th (basically I have 14 days since I arrive in the morning and depart in the evening). I am trying to put together itinerary quickly and start booking hotels. I would love to have help with this and get any suggestions, especially since this is my first time to Chile. I do not plan to see all Chile at once (as in both South and North), but would rather explore one part at times (I will have time to travel in July, which might be better for North if I will go to Chile again).
So far I am thinking to spend first 2-3 days in Santiago, then 1 day to go to Cajon de Maipo, 1 day for wine valley, 3 days for Valparaiso. This leaves 6-7 days or 5-6 days if assuming that I will spend last day in Santiago when I will fly back.
I been thinking of few options to fill the rest of the trip. I guess one option could be to go to Argentina by bus to Mendoza (not sure if 5-6 days will be too much there). Or I could go somewhere else in Chile, before I been thinking to go to La Serena and Elqui Valley, or to go down to Chiloe or Lake District (Puerto Varas..etc).
Could you give me better ideas? I probably will go ahead and book first 3 days in Santiago.
How is weather in Chile during this time? Would I just need light jacket for evenings? I guess if I will decide to go to Chiloe or Lake District, would it be better to get there by plane (to Puerto Montt)?
I have finally booked my flights to Chile for 2 weeks (two people), I am arriving on March 27th and departing on April 9th (basically I have 14 days since I arrive in the morning and depart in the evening). I am trying to put together itinerary quickly and start booking hotels. I would love to have help with this and get any suggestions, especially since this is my first time to Chile. I do not plan to see all Chile at once (as in both South and North), but would rather explore one part at times (I will have time to travel in July, which might be better for North if I will go to Chile again).
So far I am thinking to spend first 2-3 days in Santiago, then 1 day to go to Cajon de Maipo, 1 day for wine valley, 3 days for Valparaiso. This leaves 6-7 days or 5-6 days if assuming that I will spend last day in Santiago when I will fly back.
I been thinking of few options to fill the rest of the trip. I guess one option could be to go to Argentina by bus to Mendoza (not sure if 5-6 days will be too much there). Or I could go somewhere else in Chile, before I been thinking to go to La Serena and Elqui Valley, or to go down to Chiloe or Lake District (Puerto Varas..etc).
Could you give me better ideas? I probably will go ahead and book first 3 days in Santiago.
How is weather in Chile during this time? Would I just need light jacket for evenings? I guess if I will decide to go to Chiloe or Lake District, would it be better to get there by plane (to Puerto Montt)?
Feb 27th, 2015, 04:27 AM
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You are going to have to work Easter weekend into your schedule. That would run from Good Friday on the 3rd through Easter Sunday on the 5th. Many people use that as a long weekend to get out of Santiago and transport, lodging, and places to visit can be limited. Highways will be crowded. Virtually everything will be closed on Good Friday and many places like museums and vineyards may close for the entire weekend.
The second thing to consider is weather. It will be cooler, and perhaps wetter, as you go further south. Cloudy, rainy days can obscure some of the best views. It can still be a fun experience, but you need to be aware that weather can be an issue.
You cannot book Chilean buses online though you could book an Argentine company like Andesmar if you were heading for Mendoza. However, it is always a risk that the pass may close due to bad weather at altitude and you et stuck and lose time on one side of the Andes or the other. You just cannot predict high altitude weather.
Having given you the bad news, here are some suggestions. Over Easter weekend it would be best to be somewhere where the outdoors, rather than museums etc, is the attraction. The Elqui valley would be a good destination if you have transport and lodging booked. You can fly to La Serena, but you would have to look at flights now. You could rent a car for the 6 hour drive to La Serena, but avoid driving on the Friday. You could also head to somewhere like Pucon, not quite as far as Chiloe, which will always have activities for visitors and great hot springs. You can fly to Temuco and transfer from there (1.5 hrs aprox) or take an overnight bus. Again, booking the bus may be a problem, but you could check as soon as you arrive at any Turbus office. If you stagger your transport on Easter weekend, say leaving Sat and returning Mon, you would avoid the days when it is hardest to find a seat on a bus.
Plan the Easter weekend and then slot everything else around it in order to get the most out of your visit. With a bit of planning you can see everything you want and have a great trip.
The second thing to consider is weather. It will be cooler, and perhaps wetter, as you go further south. Cloudy, rainy days can obscure some of the best views. It can still be a fun experience, but you need to be aware that weather can be an issue.
You cannot book Chilean buses online though you could book an Argentine company like Andesmar if you were heading for Mendoza. However, it is always a risk that the pass may close due to bad weather at altitude and you et stuck and lose time on one side of the Andes or the other. You just cannot predict high altitude weather.
Having given you the bad news, here are some suggestions. Over Easter weekend it would be best to be somewhere where the outdoors, rather than museums etc, is the attraction. The Elqui valley would be a good destination if you have transport and lodging booked. You can fly to La Serena, but you would have to look at flights now. You could rent a car for the 6 hour drive to La Serena, but avoid driving on the Friday. You could also head to somewhere like Pucon, not quite as far as Chiloe, which will always have activities for visitors and great hot springs. You can fly to Temuco and transfer from there (1.5 hrs aprox) or take an overnight bus. Again, booking the bus may be a problem, but you could check as soon as you arrive at any Turbus office. If you stagger your transport on Easter weekend, say leaving Sat and returning Mon, you would avoid the days when it is hardest to find a seat on a bus.
Plan the Easter weekend and then slot everything else around it in order to get the most out of your visit. With a bit of planning you can see everything you want and have a great trip.
Feb 28th, 2015, 06:51 PM
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Are you stuck on Chile? Sounds like you have a bit of time to explore. Based on the time of year, it might be best to hit your "south" locations first and then come back to mid-Chile, or better yet, north Chile.
Also, if you consider Argentina, a quick flight to Buenos Aires would be a good diversion in the middle, or toward the end of your trip. We loved Buenos Aires!
We also liked Valpo very much...but just pay attention to safety there.
Have a wonderful trip!
Also, if you consider Argentina, a quick flight to Buenos Aires would be a good diversion in the middle, or toward the end of your trip. We loved Buenos Aires!
We also liked Valpo very much...but just pay attention to safety there.
Have a wonderful trip!
Mar 1st, 2015, 06:03 AM
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Well. I have the tickets to Santiago already (I would like to spend at least few days seeing Santiago/Valparaiso and wine region anyways... and been thinking and postponing my trip to Chile for a while already). Changing flights would be a hassle, but I probably would be able to adjust them by few days for free (I bought them with frequent points on AA). I probably will go ahead and book few refundable hotels for Santiago and Valparaiso and figure out what I will need to change based on my decision where to go in the second half of the trip (if I will need more days for second half of the trip, I will cut a day from Santiago).
For Argentina I was just thinking about Mendoza.. but I am not sure if it would be worth it, especially since I will be visiting wine region in Chile anyways. I don't know if I will able to fill up 5-6 days being there.
Of course, Torres del Paines would be seems like the thing to go see (especially since it is still warm there), but only thing that holds us back is that both of us never did any formal hiking/camping (and we don't have any gear for this... I don't even know how to put a camp
). I am still trying to understand about Refuges and some of the hotels there. Can someone with just basic backpack do it (the W route)? Of course, with 2 weeks time, I probably will need to fly to Punta Natales for that.
The other options (Elqui Valley, Chiloe, even Mendoza) seems favorable since we can rent a car to explore.
For Argentina I was just thinking about Mendoza.. but I am not sure if it would be worth it, especially since I will be visiting wine region in Chile anyways. I don't know if I will able to fill up 5-6 days being there.
Of course, Torres del Paines would be seems like the thing to go see (especially since it is still warm there), but only thing that holds us back is that both of us never did any formal hiking/camping (and we don't have any gear for this... I don't even know how to put a camp
). I am still trying to understand about Refuges and some of the hotels there. Can someone with just basic backpack do it (the W route)? Of course, with 2 weeks time, I probably will need to fly to Punta Natales for that.The other options (Elqui Valley, Chiloe, even Mendoza) seems favorable since we can rent a car to explore.
Mar 2nd, 2015, 04:31 AM
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Well. After talking more with another traveler that is coming with me, I think we will spend few days in Santiago and Valparaiso (with possible day trip to Cajon del Maipo and/or Wine Valley) and spend the rest on Torres del Paine (with Navimag ferry from Puerto Montt to Puerto Natales). I might be able to add 2-3 extra days to our trip
(the weekend), if we will need to make it fit, or possibly remove day or so from Santiago.
We also thinking of taking that Navimag ferry to Pto Nagales. We have option of either taking ferry from Pto Montt or from Pto Nagales to go back.
If we take ferry from Pto Montt, then ferry leaves on 3rd Apr and arrives to Pto Natales on 6th of April.
If we take ferry from Pto Natales, then ferry leaves on 7th April and arrives to Pto Montt on 10th (I would have to extend my stay in Chile here with extra days during weekend).
With first option, it leaves us 7 days in Santiago/Valparaiso region, including seeing wineries, cajon de maipo.. etc. And if I will extend our stay in Chile, we will have 4-5 days in Pto Natales to see Torres del Paine.
With second option, we can fly to Pto Natales or Pto Arenas earlier, giving us more days to spend in patagonia.
(the weekend), if we will need to make it fit, or possibly remove day or so from Santiago.
We also thinking of taking that Navimag ferry to Pto Nagales. We have option of either taking ferry from Pto Montt or from Pto Nagales to go back.
If we take ferry from Pto Montt, then ferry leaves on 3rd Apr and arrives to Pto Natales on 6th of April.
If we take ferry from Pto Natales, then ferry leaves on 7th April and arrives to Pto Montt on 10th (I would have to extend my stay in Chile here with extra days during weekend).
With first option, it leaves us 7 days in Santiago/Valparaiso region, including seeing wineries, cajon de maipo.. etc. And if I will extend our stay in Chile, we will have 4-5 days in Pto Natales to see Torres del Paine.
With second option, we can fly to Pto Natales or Pto Arenas earlier, giving us more days to spend in patagonia.
Mar 3rd, 2015, 06:14 AM
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I might only take the Navimag ferry one way. Do some more research on that, I heard that it can be rough and you are also out of sight of land for some time.
If you are interested in a day trip ferry along the Fiords/Sounds there is the 21 de Mayo from Puerto Natales, up to a few of the (shrinking) glaciers and back, with a stop for lunch. I enjoyed it. It was mostly Chilean families from what I could tell. I booked it at their offices in Puerto Natales the day before
http://www.turismo21demayo.com/en/
http://www.turismo21demayo.com/es/r/...maceda-serrano
In Torres del Paine, you can see quite a lot from the south side of the road. There may be some van tours from Puerto Natales that do this as a day trip, or ask if they can drop you off near the Laguna Amarga transfer point. Renting a car might be a better option.
Also there is the catamaran across the lake (it still runs in April) you might spend the night at the lodge there if you want or you will just have to treat it as a cruise.
http://www.frommers.com/destinations...l-paine/267485
April is getting toward winter, but hopefuly early April will still be good. I would personally fly and not take the ferry, and do it at the beginning of the trip.
If you are interested in a day trip ferry along the Fiords/Sounds there is the 21 de Mayo from Puerto Natales, up to a few of the (shrinking) glaciers and back, with a stop for lunch. I enjoyed it. It was mostly Chilean families from what I could tell. I booked it at their offices in Puerto Natales the day before
http://www.turismo21demayo.com/en/
http://www.turismo21demayo.com/es/r/...maceda-serrano
In Torres del Paine, you can see quite a lot from the south side of the road. There may be some van tours from Puerto Natales that do this as a day trip, or ask if they can drop you off near the Laguna Amarga transfer point. Renting a car might be a better option.
Also there is the catamaran across the lake (it still runs in April) you might spend the night at the lodge there if you want or you will just have to treat it as a cruise.
http://www.frommers.com/destinations...l-paine/267485
April is getting toward winter, but hopefuly early April will still be good. I would personally fly and not take the ferry, and do it at the beginning of the trip.
Mar 5th, 2015, 04:33 AM
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Thank you for your reply.
I kind of got the general itinerary together. You are probably right about Navimag... I need to think about it more... especially since it is the single constraining object in my itinerary.
1. March 27th: Arrive to Santiago. Fly to Punta Arenas right away (to arrive there at 2pm or 5pm, depending on flight). If I will arrive at 2pm, try to see the city.
2. Next day: rent a car and drive toward Torres del Paine / Puerto Natales. Also try to visit Seno Otway as well. I guess driving toward Torres del Paine will be more scenic versus other way around. I seen few videos of this drive and it made me quiet interested to do it.
3. Send next 2 days (total 28th, 29th, 29th) in Punta Arenas, Puerto Natales and Torres del Paine. For Torres del Paine I guess I will stay in hotel like Hotel Lago Grey and just do day hikes, instead of W track.
4. March 31th: Take ferry from Puerto Natales to Puerto Montt. We will arrive to Puerto Montt on April 3rd.
5. Spend next 5 days exploring Santiago/Valparaiso/Cajon de Maipo... etc
6. Fly back from Santiago on April 9th at 9pm.
The ferry does take a bit chunk of time in my itinerary. I don't know if i should instead just fly (to Puerto Montt or Santiago) and split those days between Patagonia and central Chile.
I will rent a car from Punta Arenas. But.. should I rent one once I get to Puerto Montt? Is there any scenic drives from there? Like maybe around Pucon. I will get to Santiago by bus otherwise.
I kind of got the general itinerary together. You are probably right about Navimag... I need to think about it more... especially since it is the single constraining object in my itinerary.
1. March 27th: Arrive to Santiago. Fly to Punta Arenas right away (to arrive there at 2pm or 5pm, depending on flight). If I will arrive at 2pm, try to see the city.
2. Next day: rent a car and drive toward Torres del Paine / Puerto Natales. Also try to visit Seno Otway as well. I guess driving toward Torres del Paine will be more scenic versus other way around. I seen few videos of this drive and it made me quiet interested to do it.
3. Send next 2 days (total 28th, 29th, 29th) in Punta Arenas, Puerto Natales and Torres del Paine. For Torres del Paine I guess I will stay in hotel like Hotel Lago Grey and just do day hikes, instead of W track.
4. March 31th: Take ferry from Puerto Natales to Puerto Montt. We will arrive to Puerto Montt on April 3rd.
5. Spend next 5 days exploring Santiago/Valparaiso/Cajon de Maipo... etc
6. Fly back from Santiago on April 9th at 9pm.
The ferry does take a bit chunk of time in my itinerary. I don't know if i should instead just fly (to Puerto Montt or Santiago) and split those days between Patagonia and central Chile.
I will rent a car from Punta Arenas. But.. should I rent one once I get to Puerto Montt? Is there any scenic drives from there? Like maybe around Pucon. I will get to Santiago by bus otherwise.
Mar 8th, 2015, 01:48 AM
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OK... I do have the chance to extend my stay in Chile for few days and depart on April the 13th (Monday) instead.
This gives me 3 additional full days. I am sill leaving at 9pm on the 13th.
So if I will keep the same itinerary from above... departing on 31st by ferry and arriving to Puerto Montt on April 3rd. On what should I spend those 3 extra days?
This gives me 3 additional full days. I am sill leaving at 9pm on the 13th.
So if I will keep the same itinerary from above... departing on 31st by ferry and arriving to Puerto Montt on April 3rd. On what should I spend those 3 extra days?
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"For Argentina I was just thinking about Mendoza.. but I am not sure if it would be worth it, especially since I will be visiting wine region in Chile anyways. I don't know if I will able to fill up 5-6 days being there."
With your three extra days, consider a side trip to Mendoza. Go by bus (we used Andesmar) and this is something you can book yourself online. The ride over the Andes is spectacular. The Santiago forum on TripAdvisor has many threads about this if you do a search.
With your three extra days, consider a side trip to Mendoza. Go by bus (we used Andesmar) and this is something you can book yourself online. The ride over the Andes is spectacular. The Santiago forum on TripAdvisor has many threads about this if you do a search.
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Some update to my trip... I am leaving earlier now. On 24th, arriving to Santiago on 25th. I also bought flights to Punta Arenas on the arrival day, to be there at 3-4pm.
I been planning to take a ferry on 30th, as I wrote above.... But it seems like I have problems with this original plan now.
I checked on Navimag site again and it looks like the ferry has been delayed by like 4 days (leaving on 3rd of April instead of 30th of March from Puerto Natales). Other two ferries leave on 27th of March and 3rd of April... both of which would be impractical, since it will leave us almost nothing for central Chile.
I been planning to take a ferry on 30th, as I wrote above.... But it seems like I have problems with this original plan now.
I checked on Navimag site again and it looks like the ferry has been delayed by like 4 days (leaving on 3rd of April instead of 30th of March from Puerto Natales). Other two ferries leave on 27th of March and 3rd of April... both of which would be impractical, since it will leave us almost nothing for central Chile.
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Armen:
You may not know it, but you're attempting to take in a truck-load of Chilean real estate. Need time to absorb the country (bigger than most travelers realize-nearly 300,000 sq. miles) and drink in it's beauty, sites, foods, places of interest.
These familiarization pics might help you make final decisions. We loved Chile...Pucon may not be the best place to visit now as two weeks ago they suffered a gigantic volcanic eruption that devastated the town. Whatever you decide, I'm sure you will be impressed with the country and it's people.
You may not know it, but you're attempting to take in a truck-load of Chilean real estate. Need time to absorb the country (bigger than most travelers realize-nearly 300,000 sq. miles) and drink in it's beauty, sites, foods, places of interest.
These familiarization pics might help you make final decisions. We loved Chile...Pucon may not be the best place to visit now as two weeks ago they suffered a gigantic volcanic eruption that devastated the town. Whatever you decide, I'm sure you will be impressed with the country and it's people.
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I don't know where the "news" that Pucon was devastated, or even damaged in any way, come from. There was one eruption in the early hours of the morning and that has been it so far. It was not a particularly large eruption. Pucon did not even get ash fall. The exclusion area around the volcano was 10 kms at first (Pucon is 15 kms away) and then reduced to 5 kms, where it has remained. There is no reason not to visit Pucon if you want to.
I would only recommend a side trip to Mendoza if you fly. As we move into Autumn, the chance of the pass closing with you on the wrong side is worth considering as you have quite a tight itinerary. There is going to be a complete shutdown of all transport in Argentina on the 31st of March, so definitely avoid being there on that date..
I would only recommend a side trip to Mendoza if you fly. As we move into Autumn, the chance of the pass closing with you on the wrong side is worth considering as you have quite a tight itinerary. There is going to be a complete shutdown of all transport in Argentina on the 31st of March, so definitely avoid being there on that date..
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Here is what my itinerary looks now:
I have booked several of hotels already in Patagonia part of the trip (first week).
25 -- Punta Arenas -- Stay in Punta Arenas Hotel (Rey Don Phelipe)
26 -- Isla Magdalena (or Detour to Pali-Aike if going to Isla Magdalena will not be possible) Drive to Puerto Natales.... Stay in Puerto Natales (Weskar Lodge)
27 -- Do 21st de Mayo tour of Navegación Glaciares Balmaceda y Serrano. Drive to Park (Hosteria Pehoe)
28 -- Day hike to Graciers (Hosteria Pehoe)
29 -- Day hike to Towers. Stay in different hotel for next three nights (Mirador del Payne, Hostería Tercera Barranca or in Hotel Las Torres Patagonia) (Stay in Park)
30 -- Horse riding tour... book with Baguales Group starting from CONAF (Stay in Park)
31 -- Another day of hiking (Stay in Park)
1 -- Drive back to Punta Arenas -- Fly to Puerto Montt (stay over night in Puerto Montt or Puerto Varas)
2 -- Puerto Montt / Puerto Varas
3 -- Puerto Montt / Puerto Varas
4 -- Santa Cruz (Winery) (or day trip from Valporaiso)
5 -- Valporaiso (Winery)
6 -- Valporaiso
7 -- Valporaiso
8 -- Santiago
9 -- Santiago -- Fly back at 9pm
I am not sure if I should extend my stay in Patagonia.
I am still not sure about Puerto Montt area and surroundings. How can I spend those 2 and 1/2 days well? Santa Cruz most likely will be part of Valporaiso stay (day trip from Valporaiso)... So I probably will take bus from 3rd to Valporaiso over night.
I have booked several of hotels already in Patagonia part of the trip (first week).
25 -- Punta Arenas -- Stay in Punta Arenas Hotel (Rey Don Phelipe)
26 -- Isla Magdalena (or Detour to Pali-Aike if going to Isla Magdalena will not be possible) Drive to Puerto Natales.... Stay in Puerto Natales (Weskar Lodge)
27 -- Do 21st de Mayo tour of Navegación Glaciares Balmaceda y Serrano. Drive to Park (Hosteria Pehoe)
28 -- Day hike to Graciers (Hosteria Pehoe)
29 -- Day hike to Towers. Stay in different hotel for next three nights (Mirador del Payne, Hostería Tercera Barranca or in Hotel Las Torres Patagonia) (Stay in Park)
30 -- Horse riding tour... book with Baguales Group starting from CONAF (Stay in Park)
31 -- Another day of hiking (Stay in Park)
1 -- Drive back to Punta Arenas -- Fly to Puerto Montt (stay over night in Puerto Montt or Puerto Varas)
2 -- Puerto Montt / Puerto Varas
3 -- Puerto Montt / Puerto Varas
4 -- Santa Cruz (Winery) (or day trip from Valporaiso)
5 -- Valporaiso (Winery)
6 -- Valporaiso
7 -- Valporaiso
8 -- Santiago
9 -- Santiago -- Fly back at 9pm
I am not sure if I should extend my stay in Patagonia.
I am still not sure about Puerto Montt area and surroundings. How can I spend those 2 and 1/2 days well? Santa Cruz most likely will be part of Valporaiso stay (day trip from Valporaiso)... So I probably will take bus from 3rd to Valporaiso over night.
Mar 21st, 2015, 10:57 AM
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When we were planning a trip to Chile for the month of March, we were advised to the lake district first before fog and rain arrived later in the month.We did that and had great weather. When we were in Puerto Varas, which we enjoyed, we were told that it was Chile's Seattle, i.e. often rainy.
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I hope you are enjoying your trip! Chile is a marvelous country!
We bumped into a couple from Washington State (or was it Oregon?) who were moving to Chile to set up a winery. There truly are so many beautiful options in this country. I only wish we had had time to see more than the limited amount we saw (central Chile only).
Safe travels.
We bumped into a couple from Washington State (or was it Oregon?) who were moving to Chile to set up a winery. There truly are so many beautiful options in this country. I only wish we had had time to see more than the limited amount we saw (central Chile only).
Safe travels.
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Saw Chile after our home was totalled in the '95 Northridge (CA) quake. After doing what we had to to get permits to start rebuilding, we were ready to get away until actual construction phase started..we chose a month in Chile and Argentina and the Amazon. We came back after a glorious time and got down to the minutia of rebuilding our lovely home. A year later we were back in with a handsome modernized design and loved it.
See Chile and Bariloche pix below. Seperately, we have BA, Rio, Iquacu and Amazon pics. If you wanna see them just say the word.
See Chile and Bariloche pix below. Seperately, we have BA, Rio, Iquacu and Amazon pics. If you wanna see them just say the word.
