Where to purchase 3-day tutte la regione arte card- at Paestum??
Aug 16th, 2011, 10:27 AM
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Where to purchase 3-day tutte la regione arte card- at Paestum??
We plan on going from Salerno to Paestum on October 14, 2011 where we understand we can purchase the 3 day tuitta la regione arte card. Burning question is, exactly where do we make this purchase? Can we buy it before we enter the museum or archeological site? We naturally want to take advantaGE OF THE FREE ENTRY with use of card.
Looking forward to any and all responses. PETER are you there???
Jay H.
Looking forward to any and all responses. PETER are you there???
Jay H.
Aug 16th, 2011, 10:44 AM
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At the official website at bottom right it indicates that the venues ("museums and archeological sites of artecard circuit") should sell them:
where to buy artecard:
>online
>through the call center at number
toll free 800 600 601
from mobiles and from abroad
+39 06 399 676 50
(max 50 cards, payment by credit card)
>by filling in the order form (min 20, payment by credit transfer/cash)
>in the museums and archeological sites of artecard circuit and at the infoponit situated in the central rail station
http://www.artecard.it/
where to buy artecard:
>online
>through the call center at number
toll free 800 600 601
from mobiles and from abroad
+39 06 399 676 50
(max 50 cards, payment by credit card)
>by filling in the order form (min 20, payment by credit transfer/cash)
>in the museums and archeological sites of artecard circuit and at the infoponit situated in the central rail station
http://www.artecard.it/
Aug 16th, 2011, 11:30 AM
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In practice you can get the physical card at SOME (Not all, and probably not Paestum) sites before going in - even if you order online. You've usually still got to queue for a ticket for that site, after acquiring the card - which is a nuisance, but still free.
Generally, you'll have to eat the trivial (=/- €1) cost of getting to that site, unless your journey starts at the main Naples railway station. Though most versions of the card offer free use of the metro, trains, buses and funiculars, as far as I could work out getting it sent to you costs more than a single journey.
BUT:the Artecard website, predictably, gives two totally different and incompatible sets of instructions about picking the card up. And the selling agent claims something completely different from either. This is not unusual in Italy
In English, it says, as ellem quotes "in the museums and archeological sites of artecard circuit and at the infoponit situated in the central rail station". In Italian, it says "presso <b> i più importanti musei e siti archeologici del circuito </b> e presso il punto informativo campania>artecard di Napoli Stazione Centrale" Again, duff (or illiterate) information in English is a traditional part of the Italian way of life (wait till you see the gibberish they use to translate captions)
In both cases you need to collect the card during the collection point's opening hours
The "piu importanti" sites are:
Capodimonte Art Gallery (closed Wed)
National Archaeological Museum (closd Tues) '
InfoPoint Central Station (daily)
The bookshop at Pompeii,(daily)
Herculaneum (daily)
Palazzo Reale (closed Wed)
Certosa and the San martino museum (closed Wed)
Castello di Baia (closed Monday)
Note: it DOES NOT include Paestum. To visit Paestum, you need to get your pass at one of the nominated collection points
We used the Artecard Italian information and collected our card from Pompeii. It only took about 45 mins to drive between entrances till we found the RIGHT bookshop.
Confused? Well, the service provider (http://www.ticketclic.it/gb/html/mus...ard.cfm)claims they email you a confirmation note which gets you the physical ticket at lots of places (inc your hotel). This is almost certainly as reliable as a Burlesque-oni political promise: follow the trail through to taking them up on this offer and you find:
- Ticketclic doesn't actually sell most passes (including the one you want to buy), and
- The physical pass can be collected only at that small list above.
Morals:
1. NEVER trust the English version of an Italian website
2. Never trust anything that matters on an Italian website without double-checking
3. However kindly posters here behave, ALWAYS assume anything they quote from an Italian website needs to be checked by you before you organise your life on the understandable assumption it's accurate
Generally, you'll have to eat the trivial (=/- €1) cost of getting to that site, unless your journey starts at the main Naples railway station. Though most versions of the card offer free use of the metro, trains, buses and funiculars, as far as I could work out getting it sent to you costs more than a single journey.
BUT:the Artecard website, predictably, gives two totally different and incompatible sets of instructions about picking the card up. And the selling agent claims something completely different from either. This is not unusual in Italy
In English, it says, as ellem quotes "in the museums and archeological sites of artecard circuit and at the infoponit situated in the central rail station". In Italian, it says "presso <b> i più importanti musei e siti archeologici del circuito </b> e presso il punto informativo campania>artecard di Napoli Stazione Centrale" Again, duff (or illiterate) information in English is a traditional part of the Italian way of life (wait till you see the gibberish they use to translate captions)
In both cases you need to collect the card during the collection point's opening hours
The "piu importanti" sites are:
Capodimonte Art Gallery (closed Wed)
National Archaeological Museum (closd Tues) '
InfoPoint Central Station (daily)
The bookshop at Pompeii,(daily)
Herculaneum (daily)
Palazzo Reale (closed Wed)
Certosa and the San martino museum (closed Wed)
Castello di Baia (closed Monday)
Note: it DOES NOT include Paestum. To visit Paestum, you need to get your pass at one of the nominated collection points
We used the Artecard Italian information and collected our card from Pompeii. It only took about 45 mins to drive between entrances till we found the RIGHT bookshop.
Confused? Well, the service provider (http://www.ticketclic.it/gb/html/mus...ard.cfm)claims they email you a confirmation note which gets you the physical ticket at lots of places (inc your hotel). This is almost certainly as reliable as a Burlesque-oni political promise: follow the trail through to taking them up on this offer and you find:
- Ticketclic doesn't actually sell most passes (including the one you want to buy), and
- The physical pass can be collected only at that small list above.
Morals:
1. NEVER trust the English version of an Italian website
2. Never trust anything that matters on an Italian website without double-checking
3. However kindly posters here behave, ALWAYS assume anything they quote from an Italian website needs to be checked by you before you organise your life on the understandable assumption it's accurate
Aug 16th, 2011, 01:05 PM
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Hey Flanneruk,
First let me thank you for your reply and second, let me say that in all the months I have been on this Italy board, I have never heard or read that one could not purchase 3 day Arte card at Paestum. Looking at the Art card site, it states that arte card can be purchased at among other places, "in the museums, and ARCHEOLOGICAL sites of artecard circuit ............" and Paestum Scavi is listed aS ONE OF THE ARCHEOLOGICAL SITES.
So...... there it is. Any other comments or thoughts appreciated and I did read your thought about not believing what you read. Hmmmmmmm!
All I want to know is it a definite yes as to whether I can purchase the 3- day card before entering the museum or the site at Paestum. If YES, we purchase card and then enter site showing the card and we don't pay anything extra, correct???
Jay H.
First let me thank you for your reply and second, let me say that in all the months I have been on this Italy board, I have never heard or read that one could not purchase 3 day Arte card at Paestum. Looking at the Art card site, it states that arte card can be purchased at among other places, "in the museums, and ARCHEOLOGICAL sites of artecard circuit ............" and Paestum Scavi is listed aS ONE OF THE ARCHEOLOGICAL SITES.
So...... there it is. Any other comments or thoughts appreciated and I did read your thought about not believing what you read. Hmmmmmmm!
All I want to know is it a definite yes as to whether I can purchase the 3- day card before entering the museum or the site at Paestum. If YES, we purchase card and then enter site showing the card and we don't pay anything extra, correct???
Jay H.
Aug 16th, 2011, 01:45 PM
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" Looking at the Art card site, it states that arte card can be purchased at among other places, "in the museums, and ARCHEOLOGICAL sites of artecard circuit .."
It doesn't.
It says that in English, but the Italian VERY clearly says something totally different.
So does the English language site if you follow it through, try to buy the pass, then get to the screen before you finally give the credit card number. So does ticketclic.it if you follow the "buy now" screens.
I can't know for certain about Paestum, because I've only ever collected the pass at Pompeii. So use the phone numbers both websites offer and ask them straight.
The overwhelming likelihood is they'll just laugh at you if you ask why the English version is wrong.
Cosa vuoi? Siamo in Italia
It doesn't.
It says that in English, but the Italian VERY clearly says something totally different.
So does the English language site if you follow it through, try to buy the pass, then get to the screen before you finally give the credit card number. So does ticketclic.it if you follow the "buy now" screens.
I can't know for certain about Paestum, because I've only ever collected the pass at Pompeii. So use the phone numbers both websites offer and ask them straight.
The overwhelming likelihood is they'll just laugh at you if you ask why the English version is wrong.
Cosa vuoi? Siamo in Italia
Aug 16th, 2011, 02:07 PM
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Oh my G-d Flanneruk, this is just amazing for this simple thing i want to do---Buy the 3 day card at Paestum!!!!!
I may just have to get on the phone and call them to verify unless someone who has actually purchased the 3 day Tutta La regione card at Paestum, chimes in.
Thankls Again for your comments.
Jay H.
I may just have to get on the phone and call them to verify unless someone who has actually purchased the 3 day Tutta La regione card at Paestum, chimes in.
Thankls Again for your comments.
Jay H.
Aug 16th, 2011, 04:55 PM
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You can't trust any site to have the card. Your most likely place will be Naples train station. In my experience, Italian sites are often out of whatever your planned to buy and you must pay in cash (exact change preferred). Paestum is not a good use of your card as it's one of the cheapest sites (4€). Pompeii is 11€, Herculaneum 11€. You get the first two sites entered as your free sites.
If you use the online purchase, it lists where you can pick up your card (in English). I would assume you could buy it there also. If you are passing through Naples train station when arriving to the area, just get your pass there.
Ticket Collection
YOUR CARD CAN BE COLLECTED AT:
Museo Capodimonte, open: 9 - 18 / closed on wednesday
Museo Archeologico Nazionale, open: 9 -19/ closed on Tuesday
InfoPoint Central Station, open: 9 - 18 / every day
Libreria Scavi Pompei, open: 9 - 15
Scavi di Ercolano, open: 9 - 15 / every day
Palazzo Reale di Napoli, open: 9 - 19 / closed on Wednesday
Certosa e Museo e di San martino, open: 9 - 18 / closed on Wednesday
Castello di Baia, open 9- one hour before sunset/close on Monday
If you use the online purchase, it lists where you can pick up your card (in English). I would assume you could buy it there also. If you are passing through Naples train station when arriving to the area, just get your pass there.
Ticket Collection
YOUR CARD CAN BE COLLECTED AT:
Museo Capodimonte, open: 9 - 18 / closed on wednesday
Museo Archeologico Nazionale, open: 9 -19/ closed on Tuesday
InfoPoint Central Station, open: 9 - 18 / every day
Libreria Scavi Pompei, open: 9 - 15
Scavi di Ercolano, open: 9 - 15 / every day
Palazzo Reale di Napoli, open: 9 - 19 / closed on Wednesday
Certosa e Museo e di San martino, open: 9 - 18 / closed on Wednesday
Castello di Baia, open 9- one hour before sunset/close on Monday
Aug 16th, 2011, 05:22 PM
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Jay H.
You are getting very good advice here. I am uncertain as to why said advice seems to bug you. You asked. Experienced traveler answered.
Am I missing something?
Why haven't you read that the card isn't always available at Paestum? How the heck should we know? Maybe most people don't want to get the card there; maybe most people don't ever get to Paestum; maybe most people that purchase the Artecard would rather use it more economically. Maybe it's just a coincidence that it hasn't been discussed in the past few months. That would hardly be a surprise.
Have you been to Paestum? I promise you that you won't have to beat the crowds off. As to the ticket line... well, I also promise you that it won't be long.
You are getting very good advice here. I am uncertain as to why said advice seems to bug you. You asked. Experienced traveler answered.
Am I missing something?
Why haven't you read that the card isn't always available at Paestum? How the heck should we know? Maybe most people don't want to get the card there; maybe most people don't ever get to Paestum; maybe most people that purchase the Artecard would rather use it more economically. Maybe it's just a coincidence that it hasn't been discussed in the past few months. That would hardly be a surprise.
Have you been to Paestum? I promise you that you won't have to beat the crowds off. As to the ticket line... well, I also promise you that it won't be long.
Aug 16th, 2011, 10:07 PM
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OK Tuscanlifeedit, your strong personality and logical comments have pursuaded me to alter our loosely made travel schedule i.e. unless we hear differently from the Tutta la Region Arte card office. Instead of going to Paestum first, we will train first to Herculaneum where we will purchase card and then to Naples Archeological museum and following day to Paestum and then Amalfi, Ravello, Positano, etc on the third day and all of these places, as well as regional trains and buses, will take card. FYI we will be staying at a hotel in Salerno, which will be our base of operation, so to speak, for 5 days.
Thanks for your chiming in and voicing your opinions as you saw them.
Jay H.
Thanks for your chiming in and voicing your opinions as you saw them.
Jay H.
Aug 16th, 2011, 10:14 PM
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Thanks to all of you for your thoughts and comments.
My wife just read through this tome of information and she was cracking up with laughter after reading some of the comments. She is more of a "cut to the chase " sort of person.
Jay H.
My wife just read through this tome of information and she was cracking up with laughter after reading some of the comments. She is more of a "cut to the chase " sort of person.
Jay H.
Aug 16th, 2011, 11:04 PM
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Jay - I bet you'll never again write "Looking forward to any and all responses" ?
Anyway.... a phonecall to Paestum ( 0828 722654 ) this morning took me through to the bookshop, where the helpful young lady told me they do indeed sell the Artecard's Tutti La Regione 3 day version, and "always" - sempre - have them available.
So go enjoy your visit:
http://www.pbase.com/isolaverde/paestum
Peter
Anyway.... a phonecall to Paestum ( 0828 722654 ) this morning took me through to the bookshop, where the helpful young lady told me they do indeed sell the Artecard's Tutti La Regione 3 day version, and "always" - sempre - have them available.
So go enjoy your visit:
http://www.pbase.com/isolaverde/paestum
Peter
Aug 17th, 2011, 05:40 AM
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>>>Instead of going to Paestum first, we will train first to Herculaneum where we will purchase card and then to Naples Archeological museum and following day to Paestum <<<<
It was Herculaneum that was out of everything the last time I visited. No audio guides, no maps. It was cash only to enter.
If you are arriving by train in the area, the odds are you will transfer in Naples. I would expect the Naples info point to serve more tourists and have a bigger supply of Artecards. How are you getting to Salerno?
It was Herculaneum that was out of everything the last time I visited. No audio guides, no maps. It was cash only to enter.
If you are arriving by train in the area, the odds are you will transfer in Naples. I would expect the Naples info point to serve more tourists and have a bigger supply of Artecards. How are you getting to Salerno?
Aug 17th, 2011, 06:57 AM
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Hello Again KYbourbon,
Thanks for your after-thought.
After what Peter just wrote, we may very well go to Paestum first. We fly into Rome and will catch the airport train to Rome Central station where we get the DIRECT train to Salerno. Don't want to think about the hasstle of changing trains in Naples, considering jet lag, etc. and who would have thought that they would run out of everything at Herculaneum (Ercolano)!
This has been an interesting, meandering "road", hasn't it?
Thank you , as well, for your comments.
Jay H.
Thanks for your after-thought.
After what Peter just wrote, we may very well go to Paestum first. We fly into Rome and will catch the airport train to Rome Central station where we get the DIRECT train to Salerno. Don't want to think about the hasstle of changing trains in Naples, considering jet lag, etc. and who would have thought that they would run out of everything at Herculaneum (Ercolano)!
This has been an interesting, meandering "road", hasn't it?
Thank you , as well, for your comments.
Jay H.
Aug 17th, 2011, 07:58 AM
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I'm close to gobsmacked... so please do excuse me from answering your first (deleted) question directly!
Although you'll be buying your Artecard at the entrance, that combined price of €6.50 looks to be up-to-date, and is in agreement with...
http://www.culturacampania.rai.it/si...heologico.html
http://www.campaniartecard.it/site.cfm?id=66
and what's shown on the 39th page of:
http://www.inaples.it/public/quinapoli/quinapoli.pdf
Some slight variations in the hours!
.... Just as an aside for others - the usually excellent 'Qui Napoli' magazine fails to mention the closure of the site Museum on each month's 1st and 3rd Mondays, which even the Ministry's website lists, so I'd expect they do take place....
http://www.archeologia.beniculturali...lante/S82.html
Hope you'll have a great visit!
Peter
Although you'll be buying your Artecard at the entrance, that combined price of €6.50 looks to be up-to-date, and is in agreement with...
http://www.culturacampania.rai.it/si...heologico.html
http://www.campaniartecard.it/site.cfm?id=66
and what's shown on the 39th page of:
http://www.inaples.it/public/quinapoli/quinapoli.pdf
Some slight variations in the hours!
.... Just as an aside for others - the usually excellent 'Qui Napoli' magazine fails to mention the closure of the site Museum on each month's 1st and 3rd Mondays, which even the Ministry's website lists, so I'd expect they do take place....
http://www.archeologia.beniculturali...lante/S82.html
Hope you'll have a great visit!
Peter
Aug 17th, 2011, 08:33 AM
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Odd. Peter's post about calling Paestum wasn't showing when I posted all though it appears to have been made hours earlier.
I missed the deleted question so no clue what Peter is answering. The Artecard website lists entrance to the museum and the site separately. 4€ for the museum and 6€ for the scavi. http://www.campaniartecard.it/site.cfm?id=15
It lists a combined ticket for 11€ (similar to the combined ticket sold for Herculaneum/Pompeii) to these sites:
Ticket for the Archaeological Area of Paestum + Archaeological Museum of Paestum + Archaeological Area of Velia (valid for 3 days)
_full price: 11 euro
I wonder if visiting the scavi and museum uses your two free admissions on the Artecard or counts as one.
I missed the deleted question so no clue what Peter is answering. The Artecard website lists entrance to the museum and the site separately. 4€ for the museum and 6€ for the scavi. http://www.campaniartecard.it/site.cfm?id=15
It lists a combined ticket for 11€ (similar to the combined ticket sold for Herculaneum/Pompeii) to these sites:
Ticket for the Archaeological Area of Paestum + Archaeological Museum of Paestum + Archaeological Area of Velia (valid for 3 days)
_full price: 11 euro
I wonder if visiting the scavi and museum uses your two free admissions on the Artecard or counts as one.
Aug 17th, 2011, 09:20 AM
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OK Thanks again, but I still need to know whether or not I can buy the 3 day arte cart at the bookstore prior to my entering the museum + site at paestum. I don't want to have to pay to get into the bookstore in order to gerty the ticket!
Anyone??
Do anyone of you ever sleep??? There is about a 9 hour time difference between Califortnia and Europe.
Jay H.
Anyone??
Do anyone of you ever sleep??? There is about a 9 hour time difference between Califortnia and Europe.
Jay H.
Aug 17th, 2011, 10:38 PM
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Whatever does it say that you can consider such a thing as being even remotely possible?
Of course they sell the wretched things at the entrance...
How many posts has it taken to assure you about the €6.50 that ONE of your MIGHT have had to pay to go in and fetch them?
Peter
Of course they sell the wretched things at the entrance...
How many posts has it taken to assure you about the €6.50 that ONE of your MIGHT have had to pay to go in and fetch them?
Peter
Aug 18th, 2011, 09:57 AM
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Sorry, but - as long as they don't read this, and think it a good idea - you should be fine!
I can't picture the arrangement at Paestum just now, but in many other such places the ticket sales are done in a corner of the book shop, with visitors being led in through there - both so that no sales opportunities are missed, but also to keep down the number of staff!
I trust all will go well...
Peter
I can't picture the arrangement at Paestum just now, but in many other such places the ticket sales are done in a corner of the book shop, with visitors being led in through there - both so that no sales opportunities are missed, but also to keep down the number of staff!
I trust all will go well...
Peter
