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Old Jun 24th, 2013, 02:32 PM
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Vienna restaurants

We are going to Vienna in August...need some suggestions for great non touristy restaurants and places for pastry.
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Old Jun 24th, 2013, 03:04 PM
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Just returned from Vienna early this morning !!

For Pastry you have to go to the Hotel Sacher and have the Vienna famous Sacher Torte.

You cannot leave Vienna without having Sacher Torte and you might as well have it at the "birthplace of the Torte.".

It is right across the street from the Albertina Museum ( part of the Hofburg Palalce Comple)...and also it is next to the Vienna Opera House.

Get a table outside , have lunch , then the Sacher Torte and watch the world go by.!!
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Old Jun 24th, 2013, 05:40 PM
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For a variety of pastries visit Demel Bakery in Vienna. Beautiful assortment, delicious.
Sacher Torte is chocolate and for non- chocolate eaters Demel will provide more choices.
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Demel was amazing! I found their hot chocolates and various pastries to be delicious!
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I don't know about pastry but you can't go to Vienna without visiting a few of the coffee houses. Also, the wine tasting bar Wein & Co. is very nice, and trendy with the locals.
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Another vote for Wein & Co - great selection of Austrian wines (try Grüner Veltliner - or Gru Vee for the hip and cool!) if you're not familiar with them, and have good dishes, either a small meal or do a cheese tasting plate.

As far as "non touristy" restaurants, well I'm afraid you might just find some of those pesky tourists in almost any place you go...! But if you mean restaurants not on the traditional ant trail, then try Cafe Drechsler (modern Austrian with trad food), MAK Restaurant (great chef reviving Austrian favourites at the Applied Arts Museum), or any of the Beisl around the city (Beisl is Yiddish for little house and they have good inexpensive dishes).
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Old Jun 25th, 2013, 03:40 AM
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I can recommend Zum Finsteren Stern located behind the Am Hof on Schulhof. It is hard to find and if you Google it a map will show exact location. Mozart performed there many years ago. It is small and cozy with an interesting menu.
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Another thumb's up for Demel but a definite thumb's down for Sachre Torte and I'm pretty sure I'll have a fair amount of support for this. There have been a substantial number of negative reviews RE Sacher Torte over the years. Your odds of having a better experience are far better at Demel unless you're more interested in the status of having 'been there, and done that.'

After many yearly visits to Vienna, two restaurants stand out in our memories.
1. Figlmueller, the home of the traditional Wiener Schnitzel. As madamtrasheap indicated it will be difficult to totally avoid pesky tourists regardless of where you go in Vienna; much like any other big city. However, there are a few places where your odds are better and Figlmueller is one of them. Figlmueller has two restaurant locations, both very close to St. Stephandom, at the very epicenter of Vienna. Should you choose to try Figlmueller, go first to their original location in a little pedestrian passageway called Wollziel. (See map on their web site) They've been at that location for over 100 years. If there is a line waiting to get in don't be discouraged, it goes fairly quickly. Not exactly fine dining gourmet but with enough choices to send you away having had a great traditional Viennese experience. Figlmueller's second location is literally around the corner at 6 Backerstrasse. Read Figlmueller web site and all it's drop down's at http://www.figlmueller.at/en/figlmue...lzeile-en.html

2. Salm Brau . . . Salm Brau is a Viennese tradition about 85 years old. It's located on the grounds of Belevedere Palace at 8 Rennweg, a short distance from the centrum on tram line 71. Excellent Austrian fare in a charming environment, a little like a micro brewery. Again, not candle light gourmet fine dining but a traditional experience with excellent food. Neither Figlmueller nor Salm Brau is a rowdy beer slamming place or overcrowded with obnoxious tourists getting the cold schrift from the wait staff but it is a place where you'll find a lot of locals having a good time over a traditional meal in a charming atmosphere. Sal Brau's web site http://www.salmbraeu.com/index.php?id=2&L=1

Hope you enjoy your own experiences in Vienna. My daughter just had dinner last evening at Figlmueller and loved it. She had a 5-hour layover between flights on a return trip to the States after a business trip to Bratislava and sought my recommendation for dinner in Vienna.

Paul in PA
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If you want a less pricey and more "local" pastry experience, try any of the "Aida" Konditorei / coffee houses in Vienna.

Not necessarily low budget but a less touristy alternative to the Heurigen restaurants in Grinzing are those in nearby Neustift im Walde (not a different town but also a Vienna district/ neighborhood, same setting as Grinzing minus the dozens of tour buses). A good Heurigen in Neustift im Walde is "Schreiberhaus".

Any place with a 1010 post code (i.e. in the historic town center) is more or less touristy. Usually more.

Sachertorte.. probably the biggest "pastry misunderstanding". It never has been or will be supposed to be anything like a Black Forest Cake or a super rich cream cake. It is supposed to be a "dry cake" - think of a brownie which is not really fat or rich. Try it at least once. Chances are good that it won't become your favorite as most tourists from overseas seem to prefer the richer "Torten" made with whipped cream or "butter creme".
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Old Jun 28th, 2013, 07:58 AM
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Why the so called Sacher Torte is so popular, is still a mystery to me..... This is definitely not a Torte, measured by german standards...

Austrian food is very delicious, and since one of the most famous dishes is the Wiener Schnitzel, i would recommend the "Schnitzelwirt" in the 7th district.
It is my favourite restaurant since i was living in Vienna as a student.

It is located at the Neubaugasse 52 in 1070 Vienna.

http://www.schnitzelwirt.co.at
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Cowboy1968, good description of Sachertorte. I'm one of those people who likes it. I tend to dislike overly gooey desserts, though, anyway.

~Liz
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lots of good info above.

I'd like to add my vote for an afternoon and evening in a "Heurige" - a wine tavern where they serve their own wine, as signified by a branch of fir tree hung outside the tavern entrance.

if you get a tram/bus to Heiligenstadt, you'll find plenty. they often have a buffet or other food on offer to help soak up the alcohol. we went to one near Beethoven's summer house in Heilgenstadt and just walked on from there.

http://www.wienmuseum.at/en/location...enstadt-1.html
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clausar.. it's just the historic name of that famous/ infamous "cake".. just as a Linzer Torte also is not what you may think of as a "Torte". But within the German-speaking countries everybody knows what both look and taste like. And both are very popular also among locals and many also bake them at home.
OTOH, it has never been common here to eat cake as dessert (now you do find it on more and more menus) like in the English-speaking countries. And if you were a good housewife (or houseman) and invited friends over for a Sunday coffee (at around 3 or 4 pm), a Sachertorte would not be an uncommon treat. In fact, many prefer the "drier" cakes here - if only for the opportunity to store them easier than a Black Forest Cake afterwards if there is cake left.
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My one half is German from Würzburg......
But still i had never tried a Sacher Torte until i went to study in Vienna ( where i stayed for 7 whole years...) and i never like it.....

What i love and really miss here in Greece is everything made with Topfen... Topfen Palatschinken, Topfen Golatsche etc....
and the German Käsesahnetorte !!!!!
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as Cowboy says, in the afternoon you would have "Kaffee und Kuchen" in which case there is plenty of coffee to wash the cake down and the Sachertorte style works very well with the coffee.
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pef1234 - thanks for the reminder on the Salm Braeu, haven't made it there yet but will be back in Vienna in a few weeks so it's now on my list!

Aaahhh Topfen - you're making me hungry you lot! And agree with the Sacher Torte description, but if you've never tried it then Vienna is the place to try it to decide if it's your cup of tea (or cup of Kaisermelange). At least the descriptions given above will ensure you're not too surprised by the dryness of the cake, Murielmore.
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