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Old Aug 16th, 2008, 01:20 PM
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Tivoli gardens?

With 5 1/2 days in Rome would you use one to go to Tivoli gardens? If doing that and Hadrian's Villa, I suppose that would take most of one day.
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Old Aug 16th, 2008, 01:29 PM
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It would take all day, but I have combined both Tivoli and Hadrian's Villa in an enjoyable day trip out of Rome. It's worth doing.
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I think you mean Villa d'Este in Tivoli. That is where the gardens are full of amazing fountains.

You can do both Villa d'Este and Villa Adriana (Hadrian) in one day, but Villa Adriana is enormous and you will not really get to see it all.

I trust you are not confusing the Tivoli outside Rome with the park in Copenhagen that is usually referred to as Tivoli Gardens?
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Old Aug 16th, 2008, 01:39 PM
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Yes, I do mean Villa d'Este in Tivoli. I saw it years ago and my husband wants to go there on our up-coming trip in October. He has bad knees, but he seems determined to go there!
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Hi Marsh,

we were in Rome for 6 days, and did two side trips - one to the villa d'este in Tivoli, and another to ostia antica.

the trip to Tivoli took about 3/4 of a day, as did the trip to OA. we never made it to Hadrian's villa - it seemed too complicated to try to combine the two, and have a look at tivoli, have lunch, etc.

the bus trip took about an hour each way and the villa is right in the middle of town. [hadrian's villa is a bit out of town and need another bus journey or a different bus, i believe]. touring the house and gardens of the villa d'este took about an hour to 1&1/2, and after that we had an excellent lunch, a wander round the town then caught the bus back to Rome.

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Old Aug 16th, 2008, 06:24 PM
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Marsh,

I did both on a trip out from Rome last time. Did the Metro/bus route and it was very easy. Visited Hadrian's Villa first and really enjoyed it. Then took the local bus up to Villa d'Este and was delighted with all the fountains and the gardens. Highly recommend. The transportation did take a little over an hour each way.

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Old Aug 16th, 2008, 07:57 PM
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Last month, I took Vastours trip to Hadrian's Villa and Villa d'Este. I have arthritis in my knees, so mine aren't exactly good either, and I thought it might be the best way to go (even though I'm really not into taking tours), you know, we'd be dropped off right at the door, etc.

I enjoyed everything, but if I were to do it again, I would do it myself and just go to Villa d'Este for the gardens and fountains. It was a bit much, for me at least, to do that after having done Hadrian's Villa (which is a lot of walking). The gardens are a long walk down and back up, so I didn't go all the way down, because I knew I wouldn't get back up in time to get to the bus in time for the trip back. Plus it was too much walking down and climbing back up after having already done all that walking at Hadrian's Villa. And you start out at Hadrian's Villa by a fairly steep uphill climb to get to the start of it.

Maybe this is more information that you wanted, but as someone else with bad knees, I would to go to just Villa d'Este for the day and take my time going all the way down.

If you do a search for Walter's directions (he's ParadiseLost here on the forum), his directions include getting to both Hadrian's Villa & Villa d'Este, so you can use them get directly to Villa d'Este.
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Marsh:

as a tip to your husband with the bad knees...I'm probably much older (79), and since the VA gave me a cane four years ago, I find I can walk anywhere, up and down hills, too...as long as I rely on my cane as a sort of walking stick..Since getting the cane, I've done Romania, Germany, China and Japan, Provence, Alsace, Portugal and London/Cotswolds...with a lot of daily walking up and down and everywhere....now we've scheduled Russia, Belarus and Ukraine for this October.

Honestly, the cane has become my "crutch" if you'll pardon the poor pun!

If he hasn't tried one, please get him to.

Enjoy Italy.

stu t.
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Old Aug 17th, 2008, 11:36 AM
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Thanks for all of your wonderful replies! The cane idea is a good one, but he does seem to be a little vain (and maybe stubborn). He has declared that he will never have knee surgery. I have suggested a walking stick before, but I think I'll try again. He is saying he might not want to take another trip after this one, but he is ONLY 67 & I am 63, so I want to continue to travel!
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Marsh,

My mother had full knee replacement surgery at age 73. She made a great recovery and it glad she did it. She jokes now, 6 years later, that the titanium knee is the only "good" part on her!
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Has anyone seen Villa d'Este in March? Since its not a flower garden but formal gardens with fountains I'm hoping its a good place to enjoy a relaxing walk - and I'm unsure of what to expect weather-wise.
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Old Aug 18th, 2008, 06:09 PM
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Marsh, I hope your husband will reconsider his "never" attitude. My father had bad knees and wanted surgery, but his doctor kept urging him to wait until he couldn't take it any more. By the time that day came, poor dad was no longer a candidate for surgery due to heart problems. In his last years, he could barely walk or stand for more than a few minutes.

Kathcoll, just play it by ear. If the weather's nice, go. If it's raining, don't go. "A good place to enjoy a relaxing walk..." Hmm. Not sure that's how I'd describe it. The pathways down and back up are quite steep in places.
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I have been to the gardens three times, once in the spring when they were flowing and beautiful and twice on off season, when the fountains were not flowing. Here is a good web site to check out what bus line to take, etc.
www.villadestetivoli.info
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Old Aug 19th, 2008, 06:50 PM
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Jean,

You are so right! I think it is a bad idea to wait for surgery until a person is almost immobile. At this point, he avoids walking whenever possible. I am the "errand girl" when we are traveling!
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