My boss is taking his 10 year old daughter to Paris. She is interested in fashion and art.
He said that the fashion museum is closed and wants to know where else to take her.
Also he has the view of Montmartre as being full of artists doing sketches. I wasn't sure if that is still the case. If not, is there any place like that now?
I told him not to go to Angelina but where should they go for hot chocolate? They are staying in the 2nd.
I have seen mention of streets in the Marais with small jewelry stores. Could you tell me where they are?
I suggested that he take her to get some scarfs and have the sales person show her how to wear them like a Parisian. Is one of the big department stores best for that or does someone have a suggestion of a smaller shop?
Thanks. This is to start another generation on the road to being a Francophile!
Taking a 10 year old girl to Paris- questions!
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Why not go to Angelina? I would think a ten year old girl would love it...
The main street on the Ile St Louis has cute stores and it's not overwhelming because it is a small island. I'd consider starting there...
Where are they staying?
ps. there is a cute/funky clothes store, very small, on the Ile St. Louis (on the main street). The sales clerks are young and I'm sure one of them would help her "get fitted like a Parisian". I've found that to be true of many small shops in Paris, especially if they are not busy and especially if you are enthusiastic about the clothing!
I have heard that the Angelina on Rue de Rivoli is dirty and disgusting. Not a place I would want to go much less send my boss and his 10 year old daughter. Now if I am wrong about the conditions at Angelina's I would be happy to recommend it.
Thanks for the note on the store on Ile St Louis.
Dirty and disgusting? I hadn't heard that so I can't say either way. In September I walked by and took a photo of a young woman/waitress polishing the windows but didn't go inside. From the outside looking in the window it looked OK but hard to tell. My last visit for hot chocolate was a long time ago and it was fine.
I guess they could go and check it out? If they are at the Louvre anyway... it would be a shame to miss something old-school over a few lousy reviews especially if most are good reviews.
I've never heard about Angelina being "dirty and disgusting". However, the usual queue outside (especially during weekends) makes it difficult to recommend this place, particularly if you're going there with children.
An alternative could be Laduree, which is much fancier and perhaps even a bit fairy-tale like for a 10-year old. Their colourful macaroons are also a must if you come to Paris.
As for Art and Fashion - just tell them to go for a walk around Le Marais, which offers a wonderful combination of both. You will find fancy shops all over the place, but you could check for example the street "Rue des Francs Bourgeois" and, on the other side of Rue Saint-Antoine, the "Village St Paul", full of antique stores and little cafes.
Angelina--dirty and disgusting? I think not. There is a bit of faded elegance to the place but IMO that adds to the appeal. My young granddaughter has loved going there the 2 times we have been in Paris together.
There is a Diwalii scarf shop on Ile St. Louis---and many other locations. They have many price ranges. I go there every time we are in Paris for gifts. The sales girls are friendly, helpful and speak some English.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/diwali-paris
On the same Rue St. Louis en Ile is an Amorino gelato shop (also other locations) where every cone is in the shape of a flower.
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww90/TMPAYT/Paris%20ice%20cream%20cone/ParisSept08469.jpg
I also like the clothes shops & jewelery stores on Ile St. Louis.
I'll also mention my favorite childrens shop "Mini Junior" at 114 Blvd. du Montparnasse, corner of Montparnasse & Raspail. It goes up to size 14. It is a small shop but I find something really different for my granddaughters every time I go there. One of them is 11, the other 7 and they love the very different styles to show off at school. Not lacy fancy clothes but very chic, somewhat expensive. I've shopped there for years, and thankfully the 11 yr. old clothes can be passed down to the 7 yr. old for another wearing.
IMO, Galleries Layfette would be a place my 11 yr. old would like to see, but I've not had luck in the girls dept. there. Now if she wants perfume or an expensive handbag this is the place.
I can't wait to take my GD's to Paris, maybe next year.
This is info - I gathered for a trip a few years ago - you will need to triple check the info for accuracy
Berthillion for ice cream - sit in the cafe and Amorino she will love the rose shape
Bateau Mouche evening cruise
Shopping at Zara and H&M
Pompideau
Having a portrait "done" at Monmarte
Fashion show at Galleries Lafayette
Eiffel Tour at 10 pm to the top
Sunday at Luxembourg Gardens
Le Musee de la Poupee (Doll Museum) is on a deadend street 1/2 block from the Pompidou Museum (modern art). The Doll Museum has a permanent collection of dolls from around the world as well as a temporary collection. Check it out on line. They do discount entry on Saturdays and often have special activities on Saturdays. Next to the Doll Museum is a small park called the Anne Frank park. Apparently the foliage in that park is the same type of foliage that Anne Frank looked at from her attic window (teaching moment). The outside of the Pompidou is definitely worth seeing. It is very interesting architecturally--your daughter will like it.
There is a restaurant in Paris called Dans Le Noir. It is run by the blind society. You can find it online and you need advance reservation. You get escorted into the seating area by a blind waitress. The room is completely black and you can't see a thing. That is how you eat your entire dinner. You can order from the menu or get the "surprise" dinner which is good and kids would like it.
Several of the parks, including Le Jardin du Luxembourg have marionnette shows in little indoor theatres. They are in French and the children yell at the characters when they are in danger. It is so much fun.
There are merry-go-rounds around town and a huge ferris wheel at Place de la Concorde. You can also get crepes at various places including next to the ferris wheel.
Take her to Pylones on Ile St. Louis. It is an adorable shop that little girls love. While on Ile St. Louis, I recommend having gelato on a cone from Amorino. They fashion the gelato to appear as petals on a rose. It is beautiful as well as delicious.
You could go on a chocolate walking tour. I think paris-walks.com has one.
Take her for lunch at Le Train Bleu. It is a beautiful large belle epoque restaurant located at the Gare de Lyon train station. Look at the website to see how gorgeous it is. You can also make reservations there. It isn't cheap but it is much cheaper than any of the real fancy restaurants. The food is quite good. Go for lunch. It is likely to be cheaper then.
Le Cordon Bleu has 1/2 day cooking classes for kids on certain days. You might check their website for further details. I have taken two of the adult 1 day classes and loved them.
Be sure to show her the inside of the Opera Garnier--gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous. You can just walk around (do a self-tour) for 8E for an adult.
Musee de la Contrafacon, 26 Rue de la Faisanderie (MJetro: Porte Dauphine) Tues-Sun 2-5:30pm has counterfeits next to originals and it is fun to guess which is which. Many French school children to fieldtrips here. The building is beautiful too. The items vary from chewing gum to auto tires.
Parc Andre Citroen has a hot air balloon (which remains tethered) but goes up as high as a 6-story building. It only costs about 10E. Check wheather report to be sure it will be operating. www.aeroparis.com
Angelina isn't at all "dirty and disgusting." It's overpriced and the waitresses are harridans, but that's a different story. I don't know why anyone would want goopy hot chocolate in the summertime, anyway. I should think a 10-year-old would rather have an ice cream from Berthillon or a gelato from Amorino at this time of year.
There are all kinds of cute shops in the 5ème and the Marais.
Oh, and if she's into fashion she might like a tour of the Opéra Garnier - in the basement they have many of the insanely fancy costumes that have been worn by opera stars. Plus, it's just a fascinating tour.
Access to Daddy's credit card and a full day at Galeries Layfayette should please this 10 y/o.
I haven't eaten at Angelina for a number of years, but I suspect the people who say it's dirty and disgusting are related to the ones who tell me Paris is dirty.
Perhaps they should stay home and clean the kitchen.
My sister and I were both disappointed on a repeat visit to Angelina's...the hot chocolate was lukewarm and very bitter, not nearly as good as we remembered it. I wouldn't make the trip or wait in line again. We did enjoy Fouquet's though, if you're looking for a stereotypical tourist cafe experience in a touristy location.
Summertime is ice cream time anyway...gelato or ice cream on Ile St. Louis would hit the spot.
After 20 months of traveling Europe, Paris is still my daughters favorite city. . One of our best days was at the Louvre with the book Discover the Louvre together. We had to drag my 8 year old out after 5.5 hours!
Suggest that he take her to a Ladurée - Those macarons are all the rage, it seems. And they have hot chocolate
http://www.laduree.fr/en/actualites
I cant' imagine why anyone would want hot chocolate in summer, either, and that stuff isn't even like cocoa, I think it is revolting and don't know why people "drink" it. There is a nice tea shop on Ile St Louis, though, although a kid might like Angelina's for the experience, who knows. I just don't get the idea of hot chocolate. I'd go to the one on Ile St Louis as at least it is a more interesting place and there are ice cream shops instead if you change your mind. see http://www.chocoparis.com/la-charlotte-de-lile/
And I dont' think 10 year olds are into scarves or learning to wear them the way French women do. He can just take her to the Sunday open air market at Bastille, that should be interesting enough for shopping.
He should do typical fun things, like a boat cruise on the Seine. Montmartre would be fine, it has a nice view of there, interesting church and stuff to see.
Don't lots of places serve thick hot chocolate? Is the hot chocolate at Angelina's significantly different (I've never been)?

They could go to Un Dimanche a Paris and have some delicious pastries to go with it.
I believe Jacques Genin serves it too and they give you "free" chocolates to go with it
The only thing disgusting thing I saw in Angelina's was an American family drinking cokes.
There's always some fashion exhibit going on somewhere.
There's fashion shows at the Galleries Lafayette
but I don't know the schedule, also at the Bristol Hotel.
http://www.bonjourparis.com/story/paris-fashion-museums-louvre-galliera-ysl-cardin/
this looks interesting.
http://www.fodors.com/world/europe/france/paris/review-457723.html
Second the suggestion of Le Train Bleu, but it is not less expensive for lunch; the menu is the same as for the evening. They do have a child's menu, though, and I believe it goes up to age10 or 11. A beautiful place, and they were very friendly with my granddaughter, who was only 6 at the time.
19 year old niece and I both enjoyed having coffee and macarons at Ladure on Rue Royale; very special experience, even if later we determined that the macarons at Un Dimanche a Paris were better! We didn't make it to Angelina's but I so want a Mont Blanc dessert...
We enjoyed watching the little kids run chase their boats in the fountain at Jardin Luxenbourg and getting up close and personal with the Notre Dame gargoyles was also a hit. My niece loved Versailles--it's a princess fairytale palace come to life.
You mention when they are going, but there is an exhibition opening in September at the Orsay on Impressionism and Fashion.
Take her to the Le Train Bleu,, look it up, its beautiful, she will feel like a princess there for sure!!!
I didn't think most 10 yr olds were already being groomed by their parents to be fashion plates and shopping nuts, but oh well, there is a lot more to Paris .. My 11 yr old daughter loved the history, the museums , and going up the Eiffel Tower. Her favorite museums were the Orsay and the Shoah Museum. She also loved visiting Versailles.
The Fashion museum is having their exhibits at the Cité de la Lode et Design until they reopen. Ten year olds do not want to have scarf wrapping lessons. They love H&M.
If I had a ten yr old visiting I'd be sure to tzke her to:
The trampolines in the Tuileries Gardens
The Rodin museum gardens with lunch from the café in there
The galerie de l'evolution (rainy day)
Egyptian wing of the Louvre
Shopping at Monoprix
justineparis... the Dad asked about a fashion museum, not dressing her up. The shopping ideas came from the rest of us.
A 10-year-old is old enough to have a lot of input to her trip to Paris. Tell him to buy her a guidebook. I'm sure she will find lots of things she'd like to do.
We took our ten-year-old GD to France a few years ago, and one of the things that made Paris especially nice for her was the Batobus on the Seine. It's like a water-trolley that you can hop on and off of; it runs a circuit from the Tour Eiffel to the Jardin des Plantes and back again, with a number of stops along the way. It's great for tired kids, and offers another way of seeing Paris. We would take it to a destination, walk around for a while, and then hop back on at a different location to check out another area. We got a two or three day pass and used it most of the time we were there.
Berthillon's, on Île St. Louis, right near Notre Dame, is famous for its ice cream. We found out too late, though, that if you order a cone you can't be seated; you need to go inside and order ice cream in a dish if you want to rest your aching feet! Their flavors (or parfums) are wonderful and very unusual.
Kids love going up in the Tour Eiffel but it helps to get there very early. We also went to Montmartre but didn't make her climb all the way up to Sacre Coeur. Place du Tertre was enough of an experience, with all the artists sketching portraits and selling their canvases. There are little cafés there for a meal or hot chocolate.
She had promised souvenirs to her school friends so we spent a certain amount of time in the shops around Notre Dame looking for that perfect piece of junk for each of them. We deliberately didn't take her to a museum, but if your boss's child enjoys them I'd recommend the Musée d'Orsay over the Louvre because it's smaller and more easily managed. It also has a lovely dining room and a less formal café.
The Tuileries have a large fountain near the Louvre where often a man rents toy sailboats for kids to float in the basin. It's low-tech but is very popular. There is also a man who offers donkey rides, and a lovely merry-go-round which our GD enjoyed. The Tuileries has kiosks that sell ice creams and drinks and light meals.
Re meals, it's a requirement in France that restaurants have a menu board posted outside the door. So you can check out the places before you go inside and commit yourself. The prix fixe is usually the best deal at most places. Meals are served only from about noon to 2 or 3 p.m. for lunch, and from 7:30 or 8 for dinner, unless you're at a brasserie or a bistro; those are more casual and often have much looser hours. Many shops, businesses, and government offices close up at lunch time for the duration. You can't stop into a food market to get something to tide you over if you don't want to eat out. But that may be truer in the countryside, where we spent most of our time, than in Paris.
I don't think places in Paris called bistros are open with long hours, either, that name is mainly used for a small restaurant, I guess it is more casual or just wants to be and likes the name bistro. They aren't open in the middle of the afternoon or all day. Most that I know aren't open for breakfast. Food markets and supermarkets or shops don't close up in the middle of the day in Paris, at least I've never seen one do that, especially in the middle of the city. Supermarkets wouldn't do that nor the corner epicerie. What businesses where people work in offices and govt offices do doesn't really matter. Besides there are lots of places to get street food in Paris in the center where tourists are.
Hot chocolate? Try Le Grand Colbert, 2 rue de Vivienne, 75002. Okay, I wouldn't recommend it for dinner, but I had the hot chocolate there once and it was about as cool an experience as I think you can get. And for a kid? Man, the place just oozes Frenchiosity. I'm telling you, it will be great for her. I live not far from it and I take folks from out of town there all the time.
As for places in the Marais, I think you've really just got to wander and keep your eyes open. For jewelry, hit a few of the passages as well. I forget the name, but there's one that starts near metro stop Richelieu Douot in the 2nd that'd be fun.
Second the suggestion of Laduree for macarons.
For Montmartre, yeah it's jam-packed, but try taking her up for a late night jaunt. You get a beautiful view of the city from Sacre Coeur, then walk around the corner to Place du Tertre. Should be fairly empty by that point, but there are still some cafes open. It really feels special there, especially if the weather is nice.
Have a blast!
Oh, hey, you know what else she might really go for? In the Marais you can find some places where they can make a perfume custom to what she likes. Since smells last with us forever it seems, that might make for a neat experience that would stick.
As a mom of two girls who returns every year--
H&M and Zara are so available in the US that the cache is rather gone. Sephora was once unique, too.
I think the consignment shops in the Marais are so much fun (we picked up a mink beret at Thanksgiving--divine), and we do enjoy the Village of St. Paul there. The Marais is really nice on a Sunday because so many shops are open there. Be sure to see my favorite buskers, Les Musiciens de Lviv, who play there on Sundays at la Place des Vosges.
http://www.squidoo.com/cabaret-slave
Galleries Lafayette fashion show was a hit with our guests.
Musee d'Orsay is a kid's dream come true, as long as you zone in on the best areas right off the bat. Around age ten, my girls were enjoying a wonderful art education program at their elementary school, and they insisted on having their pictures taken beside every single picture they had studied. I ran out of camera memory. NO FLASH!
Tip: we always bought the Carte Musee in the early days so that we didn't waste energy in line and so we could exit any place as soon as we got "museum fatigue". No problem coming back again the next day.
I personally hated Angelina even when it was good. Thought hot chocolate on Ile de St. Louis was much better. Ile de St. Louis is great anyway for a kid. There's always entertainment on the bridge between Ile de la Cite and St. Louis that's fun.
I think the idea of shopping at Laduree is a superb idea.
Wish I had known about the costumes in Opera Garnier. Our English tour there was one of our all-time favorites as it was. But I do have to admit while I could spend hours at the V&A in London, the rest of the family does not share my love of costume.
Warning about the artists at Montmartre's Place de Tertre: There's a new international scam where the watercolor paintings you see for sale by the artists are actually color copies. So buyer beware.
What's not a scam--paintings on the staircase of the Metro stop L'Abbesses: http://www.gourmantic.com/2011/05/18/abbesses-paris-metro-station-for-montmartre-and-amelie-fans/
Are they going to be there in summer, ie july/august? He can take her to the beach, because Paris Plages will be on then, with lots of things to do from Polynesian dance classes to boules playing and all right in the center of the city.
I used to take my son along with me on photo shoots in Paris when he was about 10/11 years old, and he loved being out rather late at night, just walking along the boulevards, stopping in a bar for a coca and stand at the bar and be grown up. Late dinners he also liked, being quite a night owl, but also because it made him feel very grown up. Make sure that if they go somewhere, they also sometimes take a bus.
Menachem--Totally forgot about the Paris Plages. Great idea!
My 11 yr old thought the "beach" was disgusting, its shipped in sand, and a few water sprinklers,, fun for younger kids perhaps.. and people who really have no normal access to real beaches.
My son had exactly the opposite experience, but that's because we got hold of a program and did a lot of the activities and went to the pool, did the boat ride between beaches, went to the family concerts at night etc... There's lots going on in the city, and it needs to be remembered that PP is there to give people who can't/won't/don't leave Paris in july to go on holiday a holiday experience inside the city, so especially for children there are a lot of activities. I never thought I would see my son enjoying a polynesian dance class, but he did.
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topping, what great ideas for the kids