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Old Jul 11th, 2015, 09:43 AM
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southern germany itenerary suggestions

My husband and I are planning a southern Germany trip the first two weeks of Sept. We have 10 full days. Flying into Munich.

We are open to many things. We are thinking the following route but open to anything. Also any suggestions on things to do and hotels would be greatly appreciated. Hotels can be moderate and above.

Arriving in Munich Day 1 stay and do day trips for 3 nights
Take train to Nuremburg for 1 night
take train to Rothenburg ob der Traube for 1-2 nights
possible rent a car to travel to Stuttgart and the black forest

as you can see I need to fill in the gaps.
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"Rothenburg ob der Traube" should be "Rothenburg ob der Tauber" - "Tauber" is the nearby river.

"Arriving in Munich Day 1 stay and do day trips for 3 nights"

Will you be seeing Munich? or doing 2-3 day trips? It would be hard to do both. Maybe you're using Munich just as a travel base? What day trips, I wonder.

"Take train to Nuremburg for 1 night
take train to Rothenburg ob der Traube for 1-2 nights"

If you have 3 nights, I'd want 2 in Nuremberg and 1 in R'burg, where 24 hours will be more than enough time.

Stuttgart and the Black Forest make for a lot more ground travel with your short time in Germany - and then you're driving back to MUC? I'd probably stick with Bavaria, as there are dozens of other really good destinations there that you are skipping over, and good variety as well - Bamberg and Regensburg both have UNESCO World Heritage old towns. Würzburg, Iphofen, Bad Windsheim, and the Main River towns of Ochsenfurt, Sommerhausen and Marktbreit, pop immediately to mind as well.

Travel video for these last 3 towns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLUgpoQIFHI
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and also for Bavaria - Europe's most famous castle - Neuschwanstein in Fussen - a two-hour train trip from Munich but a lovely area to drive in - take the Alpine Strasse along the foot of the Alps to say Berchetsgaden and even dip in Austria to see wondrous Salzburg.

And i agree that Bamberg and Regensburg are super sweet old towns - Nurnberg is a nice larger more modern town - maybe spend half your time in northern Bavaria and half in southern and some in Munich itself.

For trains you mention to Rothenburg and Nurnberg use the Bavarai Pass that for about 30 euros or so allows two people to use regional trains unlimited for a whole day - could also of course use to go to Fussen or even Salzburg, Austria - for goodies on European trains check: www.seat61.com; www.ricksteves.com and www.budgeteuropetravel.com - all informative sites with lots of objective info and not just a hard sell.
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possible rent a car to travel to Stuttgart and the black forest>

Ulm and its famous cathedral with some near record high tower could be on a route to the Black Forest too.
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I didn't find anyting special in Stuttgart, unless maybe if you like cars, but I don't.

If your rent a car, go to Garmish Partenkirchen, very nice and romantic.
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"If your rent a car, go to Garmish Partenkirchen..."

Direct trains leave Munich for G-P every hour and get you there just as fast.

"www.seat61.com; www.ricksteves.com and www.budgeteuropetravel.com - all informative sites with lots of objective info and not just a hard sell."

I don't know budgeteuropetravel well. Seat61 has lots of good information and seems pretty good overall. "Objective info" is in fairly short supply on www.ricksteves.com. Just take the cost map for Germany:

https://cdn3.ricksteves.com//Project...ap-germany.png

You're supposed to add up the cost of your travel legs to see if you need a German rail pass. The map says Munich to Salzburg for $40 each. $70 to Nuremberg. So I'm to believe that, wihout a rail pass, a couple would have to pay $220 to make these 2 trips... This map totally ignores the Bavaria Ticket option PalenQ cited, which would be €56 total for these 2 trips made over 2 days, or €28 total if you made both trips in one day.

I guess rail passes would be a hard sell for the RS organization if it provided ACCURATE cost options for comparison with railpass costs.
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Thanks to everyone for your help. It has been quite valuable. One more question, should our trip be all planned with hotels and all or is it possible to just travel day by day?
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even though Sept is beginning of non-peak season not booking hotels in advance often means a few hours looking and maybe a higher price - I highly suggest booking hotels where you know you will be staying otherwise in main stations there is usually a hotel booking desk and or tourist office that IME will always be able to book something but that may not be a place you really want.
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