Secret societies in Prague
Oct 1st, 2011, 09:43 AM
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Secret societies in Prague
Hello,
I'd like to ask you for help in completing the questionnaire to my final thesis. It will take approximately 2 minutes.
http://secret-societies-tourism-pro.vyplnto.cz/
Thank you very much.
I'd like to ask you for help in completing the questionnaire to my final thesis. It will take approximately 2 minutes.
http://secret-societies-tourism-pro.vyplnto.cz/
Thank you very much.
Oct 1st, 2011, 09:57 AM
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First of all, the site isn't in English - so I don;t know what most people here would do with it.
Second, my degree is in european history, I have been to europe more than 90 times, including at least 4 to Prague - and know nothing whatever about any secret societies. I very much doubt that other tourists wold know about such things - even if they did or had existed.
I think you're in left field without a mitt.
Second, my degree is in european history, I have been to europe more than 90 times, including at least 4 to Prague - and know nothing whatever about any secret societies. I very much doubt that other tourists wold know about such things - even if they did or had existed.
I think you're in left field without a mitt.
Oct 1st, 2011, 10:42 AM
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Sorry for irritating you. I probably wasn't clear enough. My thesis is about secret societies in Prague - sights related with them (houses, churches, statues, places of residence of famous members of secret societies, etc.). I am trying to find out if is anybody interested in such thing. (you are apparently not 
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So, The aim of my research is to determine whether tourists were interested in visiting the sights associated with secret societies in Prague.
The questionnaire is in English on the link below:
http://secret-societies-tourism-pro.vyplnto.cz/
(The site isn't in English but it was the best I found for my purpose. I hope it does not matter too much.)
Have a nice day.
) So, The aim of my research is to determine whether tourists were interested in visiting the sights associated with secret societies in Prague.
The questionnaire is in English on the link below:
http://secret-societies-tourism-pro.vyplnto.cz/
(The site isn't in English but it was the best I found for my purpose. I hope it does not matter too much.)
Have a nice day.
Oct 1st, 2011, 10:59 AM
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I think you have missed my point.
I have no idea if these societies do or ever did exist. And I know way more about Prague than most of the tourists that go there.
I studied the history of europe - and neer heard about any such societies.
My mother's family is partly Czech - and before I went the first time I spoke to an elderly great aunt - who gave me all sorts of info that she had gleaned about the family and sitant relations who might still be there.
She never mentioned anything about "secret society" - so they must have been really secret - as in who has ever heard of them.
I'm not saying this is not true. Just that you're not going to find tourists who know anything about it - never mind would go to Prague for that reason.
Just for the sake of curiosity - tell us a little about these societies - so we know what you are talking about.
I have no idea if these societies do or ever did exist. And I know way more about Prague than most of the tourists that go there.
I studied the history of europe - and neer heard about any such societies.
My mother's family is partly Czech - and before I went the first time I spoke to an elderly great aunt - who gave me all sorts of info that she had gleaned about the family and sitant relations who might still be there.
She never mentioned anything about "secret society" - so they must have been really secret - as in who has ever heard of them.
I'm not saying this is not true. Just that you're not going to find tourists who know anything about it - never mind would go to Prague for that reason.
Just for the sake of curiosity - tell us a little about these societies - so we know what you are talking about.
Oct 1st, 2011, 11:06 AM
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By the way - just did a quick search of Prage and secret societies and all that turned up was info on the local version of the KGB, activities by the Nazi SS during WWII (although I don;t know how that could be secret) and the rosicrucians (which was a europe-wide 17th century weird religious sect.
And this is starting to sound like the plot of a rip-off Indiana Jones movie.
And this is starting to sound like the plot of a rip-off Indiana Jones movie.
Oct 1st, 2011, 11:07 AM
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A two-question survey? I can't imagine what you are trying to accomplish here, or how anyone could answer the second question (would you be interested to buy a tour of places in Prague associated with secret societies) since the number of people headed to Prague as tourists who have any idea about secret societies must number on the fingers of one hand. I spent weeks in Prague with a Czech family, and have spent much time here in the USA with members of the same family, and in all the hundreds and hundreds of stories they shared with us, never once was there mention of a secret society.
Maybe you should just write your thesis on those secret societies, so as to illuminate us and all the people out there who have no clue what they are.
The Aleuminati, btw, isn't a secret society. It's a kind of social network of people who like to drink beer. I don't think it has much if any historical value at all.
Maybe you should just write your thesis on those secret societies, so as to illuminate us and all the people out there who have no clue what they are.
The Aleuminati, btw, isn't a secret society. It's a kind of social network of people who like to drink beer. I don't think it has much if any historical value at all.
Oct 1st, 2011, 11:37 AM
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I clicked on the link
http://secret-societies-tourism-pro.vyplnto.cz/
There is an English welcome with directions.
There are ten questions.
http://secret-societies-tourism-pro.vyplnto.cz/
There is an English welcome with directions.
There are ten questions.
Oct 1st, 2011, 06:17 PM
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I have taken your survey - and am sorry to tell you that this is nonsense.
You should know that one of my job responsibilities is overseeing market research (hundreds of surveys, focus groups, one-on-one interview projects - as well as other types you would know nothing about)- so I do have some clue what I am talking about.
First - you have selected completely the wrong audience. A very larger percentage of posters here are american and you have not allowed for that option in your list of nationalities.
Second - the research is based on a false assumption - and can therefore never provide any useful information. You are assuming that people have heard of these "secret societies". We have not. Even if we have heard of them in some historical context, it has nothing to do with Prague (many of the founding father of the US were freemasons - and no one goes to washington DC for a tour on freemasonry).
For many of the questions you have given a very small number of clearly biased responses. I can't believe that any thesis advisor would review and approve this questionnaire as part of any sort of program - even a very basic business or market research course - never mind whatever degree you are trying to get. (In the US thesis would mean a doctorate - don;t know how your system works. But if this if the quality of the thinking you are in big trouble - since you obviously have no overall perspective on tourism to Prague.)
You should know that one of my job responsibilities is overseeing market research (hundreds of surveys, focus groups, one-on-one interview projects - as well as other types you would know nothing about)- so I do have some clue what I am talking about.
First - you have selected completely the wrong audience. A very larger percentage of posters here are american and you have not allowed for that option in your list of nationalities.
Second - the research is based on a false assumption - and can therefore never provide any useful information. You are assuming that people have heard of these "secret societies". We have not. Even if we have heard of them in some historical context, it has nothing to do with Prague (many of the founding father of the US were freemasons - and no one goes to washington DC for a tour on freemasonry).
For many of the questions you have given a very small number of clearly biased responses. I can't believe that any thesis advisor would review and approve this questionnaire as part of any sort of program - even a very basic business or market research course - never mind whatever degree you are trying to get. (In the US thesis would mean a doctorate - don;t know how your system works. But if this if the quality of the thinking you are in big trouble - since you obviously have no overall perspective on tourism to Prague.)
Oct 1st, 2011, 08:36 PM
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Your idea of a tour of Prague focused on secret societies is interesting but not well thought out. As a sightseeing tour lasting a few hours it has a lot of promise (it's similar to other single topic tours like food, ghosts, or pop-culture) but nobody is going to pay for a multi-day tour. Longer tours are not a spur of the moment kind of thing. To sign-up for something like that people would have to travel to Prague specifically with the intent of seeing secret society sights and as others have pointed out, nobody knows anything about it. Hell, I studied history and love conspiracy theories and this is the first I've ever heard of it. I'm sure there's lots of stuff but it's a pretty obscure topic.
Oct 1st, 2011, 09:05 PM
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Oh please.
Lucka, the real problem is that you came to a website where people want to boast about themselves because nobody here is any position to challenge there boasts. To make matters worse, you are young, and they are not. They really have a grudge against young people and their innocence and can't wait for them to show up to slap them around.
Stcirq, I found your last post hilarious.
Lucka, the real problem is that you came to a website where people want to boast about themselves because nobody here is any position to challenge there boasts. To make matters worse, you are young, and they are not. They really have a grudge against young people and their innocence and can't wait for them to show up to slap them around.
Stcirq, I found your last post hilarious.
Oct 2nd, 2011, 03:09 AM
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First - I'd like to thank you all for your responses and for your time.
Second – The survey is about find out if this topic has any sense or not. I am learning with it and if I find that it was bad idea then ok. I will be satisfied. Task is completed.
Secret societies (in Prague history) aren’t usual theme. That is why I picked this theme at first place. I didn’t want to write about something everyone else did. Maybe it’s a little bit “Indiana Jones topic” but tourists are traveling for many reasons.
Now I have to go work on my thesis. (Maybe find a new topic )
Wish you all the best
Second – The survey is about find out if this topic has any sense or not. I am learning with it and if I find that it was bad idea then ok. I will be satisfied. Task is completed.
Secret societies (in Prague history) aren’t usual theme. That is why I picked this theme at first place. I didn’t want to write about something everyone else did. Maybe it’s a little bit “Indiana Jones topic” but tourists are traveling for many reasons.
Now I have to go work on my thesis. (Maybe find a new topic
)Wish you all the best
Oct 2nd, 2011, 06:49 AM
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I can't believe how much time and thought you have given the OP. I would suggest she is just looking to see if there is a market for yet another rip off tour in Prague.
as for clicking on an unknown link on a message board.....
as for clicking on an unknown link on a message board.....
Oct 2nd, 2011, 11:51 AM
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Well, now we know where the secret society ended up - with Adu in New York.
Zeppole - no one is trying to boast or make anyone feel bad. But someone writing a thesis on a topic should have a reasonable level of expertise (as in a week or so of research) not be "innocent" about it. The purpose of education is to inform and provide perspective about the world - the poor OP doesn;t seem to have achieved much of that. Or has a really bad advisor, since usually the first stage of a thesis is the student defending the value of the topic to the advisor.
Zeppole - no one is trying to boast or make anyone feel bad. But someone writing a thesis on a topic should have a reasonable level of expertise (as in a week or so of research) not be "innocent" about it. The purpose of education is to inform and provide perspective about the world - the poor OP doesn;t seem to have achieved much of that. Or has a really bad advisor, since usually the first stage of a thesis is the student defending the value of the topic to the advisor.
Oct 2nd, 2011, 12:54 PM
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Is this what you're referring to, Lucka?
"Did you know for instance that Prague was built according to a secret plan? That its kings were members of secret brotherhoods? That Prague is one of the most haunted cities in Europe!"
From a tour based web site for Prague.
"Did you know for instance that Prague was built according to a secret plan? That its kings were members of secret brotherhoods? That Prague is one of the most haunted cities in Europe!"
From a tour based web site for Prague.
Oct 2nd, 2011, 01:20 PM
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Sorry for your somewhat chilly reception here Lucka did your survey which seems somewhat slanted toward seeing if there
would be a market for this for me sadly no because like above most are clueless because by their nature they are "secret" but Freemasons have operated for centuries in Prague symbols abound.The first Czech lodge was founded at Thee Stars in Bohemia around 1726 by Count Francis Spork. The second lodge was founded in Prague in 1741 by some French officers. Soon, additional lodges were established inPrague. A group of scientists-most of them Freemasons-founded the Royal Czech Society of Scientists. During the 20th century, lodges were constituted under German or Hungarian Obedience. The German Grand Lodge Lessing to the Three Kings was constituted in 1920 and the Czechoslovak Grand Lodge was constituted in 1923. The two bodies signed a concordant in 1934. Before World War II, each had about 3,000 members. Nazi Germany, like most totalitarian states, was very anti-Masonic. During World War II, about 135 Freemasons were executed, while at least 130 were imprisoned, more than 100 of who died as a result of diseases or injuries experienced while incarcerated. After the war, the Czechoslovak Grand Lodge was reconstituted. The total membership was then 652.After the 1948 Communist takeover, Masonic activity went underground, with meetings held in private homes. Only 28 Czech Masons were still living at the time of the 1989 Velvet Revolution. The Czechoslovak Grand Lodge was revived in July, 1990, and, by December of that year, had received recognition from the United Grand Lodge of England and from other European and American Grand Lodges. The Czech Grand Orient was established by the Grand Orient of France during the early 1990s.Today, there are about 500 Freemasons in the Czech Republic.
So I personally doubt plans for this type tour lack viability.
But good luck and happy travels!
would be a market for this for me sadly no because like above most are clueless because by their nature they are "secret" but Freemasons have operated for centuries in Prague symbols abound.The first Czech lodge was founded at Thee Stars in Bohemia around 1726 by Count Francis Spork. The second lodge was founded in Prague in 1741 by some French officers. Soon, additional lodges were established inPrague. A group of scientists-most of them Freemasons-founded the Royal Czech Society of Scientists. During the 20th century, lodges were constituted under German or Hungarian Obedience. The German Grand Lodge Lessing to the Three Kings was constituted in 1920 and the Czechoslovak Grand Lodge was constituted in 1923. The two bodies signed a concordant in 1934. Before World War II, each had about 3,000 members. Nazi Germany, like most totalitarian states, was very anti-Masonic. During World War II, about 135 Freemasons were executed, while at least 130 were imprisoned, more than 100 of who died as a result of diseases or injuries experienced while incarcerated. After the war, the Czechoslovak Grand Lodge was reconstituted. The total membership was then 652.After the 1948 Communist takeover, Masonic activity went underground, with meetings held in private homes. Only 28 Czech Masons were still living at the time of the 1989 Velvet Revolution. The Czechoslovak Grand Lodge was revived in July, 1990, and, by December of that year, had received recognition from the United Grand Lodge of England and from other European and American Grand Lodges. The Czech Grand Orient was established by the Grand Orient of France during the early 1990s.Today, there are about 500 Freemasons in the Czech Republic.
So I personally doubt plans for this type tour lack viability.
But good luck and happy travels!
