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Dec 13th, 2013, 12:15 PM
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We will be spending time in Ireland, then will need to fly from Dublin to Amsterdam as we are taking a River Cruise from there. I was told by a friend that Ryan Air was cheap and flies there, but can't seem to find what I am looking for on Ryan Air's site. It does show they fly to the Netherlands to Einhoven and Groningen but that doesn't help. Are either of those cities close to Amsterdam? Near as I could tell Einhoven was south and Groningen in the north??
Dec 13th, 2013, 12:23 PM
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Yes, that's the deal with Ryanair - they're cheap because they use minor airports, and historically even relabel these as the more famous cities. Distances are relatively close in the Netherlands so a secondary airport could be a solution, but you'll have to look at ground transport options at Eindhoven or Groningen to see if it's feasible to catch a train from there to Amsterdam.
http://www.eindhovenairport.com/en/accessibility/
http://www.groningenairport.nl/en/tr...accessibility/
The Dutch rail site will give you train times: http://www.ns.nl/en/travellers/home
Alternately, you should check AerLingus to make sure they don't have an affordable one-way flight.
http://www.eindhovenairport.com/en/accessibility/
http://www.groningenairport.nl/en/tr...accessibility/
The Dutch rail site will give you train times: http://www.ns.nl/en/travellers/home
Alternately, you should check AerLingus to make sure they don't have an affordable one-way flight.
Dec 13th, 2013, 01:06 PM
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If you insist on Ryanair then chose Eindhoven airport. AerLingus is often as cheap though, and they do fly to Schiphol. Don't forget to check what you are getting for the price, and to add the train fare from Eindhoven when deciding which one to choose.
Dec 13th, 2013, 01:15 PM
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"... Are either of those cities close to Amsterdam? ..."
See the mapping websites www.viamichelin.com or https://maps.google.com
On www.ryanair.com you can click on the route map and you'll see that Ryanair does not fly to Groningen as a one-hopper from Dublin, only via circuitous routes (via Spain or Milan).
Ryanair doesn't pretend that Eindhoven is its Amsterdam destination.
Once you get from the airport in Eindhoven (note the correct spelling) to the train station, it's only a bit over an hour by train to Amsterdam, so if everything else looks right about a Ryanair flight, it might still suit you.
It is a no-frills budget airline - think "bus with wings" - it doesn't pretend to be anything else, so read the conditions carefully, luggage is limited or the price goes way up, know what it is you're buying, it is one of the biggest and most successful airlines in Europe, and it makes no secrets of how it operates. Not for everybody, so it's for you to know if it's the right choice for you.
Use www.skyscanner.com and www.whichbudget.com for your search for other cheap flights (and read the conditions of every carrier carefuylly) or go to the website of the Dublin airport and look at the list of departing flights, that will tell you what you need to know.
See the mapping websites www.viamichelin.com or https://maps.google.com
On www.ryanair.com you can click on the route map and you'll see that Ryanair does not fly to Groningen as a one-hopper from Dublin, only via circuitous routes (via Spain or Milan).
Ryanair doesn't pretend that Eindhoven is its Amsterdam destination.
Once you get from the airport in Eindhoven (note the correct spelling) to the train station, it's only a bit over an hour by train to Amsterdam, so if everything else looks right about a Ryanair flight, it might still suit you.
It is a no-frills budget airline - think "bus with wings" - it doesn't pretend to be anything else, so read the conditions carefully, luggage is limited or the price goes way up, know what it is you're buying, it is one of the biggest and most successful airlines in Europe, and it makes no secrets of how it operates. Not for everybody, so it's for you to know if it's the right choice for you.
Use www.skyscanner.com and www.whichbudget.com for your search for other cheap flights (and read the conditions of every carrier carefuylly) or go to the website of the Dublin airport and look at the list of departing flights, that will tell you what you need to know.
Dec 13th, 2013, 01:29 PM
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A one way with Aer Lingus to Ams is between €47 &€58 pp.
A one way train ticket from Eindhoven to Schiphol costs +-€18. So Ryanair needs to be significantly cheaper to make it worthwhile, for the added time and hassle.
A one way train ticket from Eindhoven to Schiphol costs +-€18. So Ryanair needs to be significantly cheaper to make it worthwhile, for the added time and hassle.
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Dec 13th, 2013, 03:47 PM
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hetismij2 - I was still typing, you beat me to it. Yes I agree - Schiphol is better, but in a pinch Eindhoven would do, not necessarily for price but maybe for timetable reasons. Pattie will figure it out.
Dec 13th, 2013, 09:27 PM
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Dec 13th, 2013, 10:56 PM
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That YouTube video is a load of rubbish. And a load of misinformation.
It's not over til the fat lady sings. Well, the fat lady sang (if we can call it that), and she's wrong - the taxes and fees are included in the fare you get quoted on www.ryanair.com
As long as you don't opt for one of the many options the website tries to foist on you, the fare remains what it first comes up as, and that's all you pay.
It's not over til the fat lady sings. Well, the fat lady sang (if we can call it that), and she's wrong - the taxes and fees are included in the fare you get quoted on www.ryanair.com
As long as you don't opt for one of the many options the website tries to foist on you, the fare remains what it first comes up as, and that's all you pay.
Dec 13th, 2013, 11:06 PM
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Oh for the love of ....
It's not a documentary analysis, it's a humorous (through comic exaggeration) play on the inevitable fact that most normal people tend to need the extras that make the initial headline eye-catcher not the whole story.
As ever, a little common-sense goes a long way.
It's not a documentary analysis, it's a humorous (through comic exaggeration) play on the inevitable fact that most normal people tend to need the extras that make the initial headline eye-catcher not the whole story.
As ever, a little common-sense goes a long way.
Dec 14th, 2013, 01:02 AM
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Ryanair calls Charleroi airport Brussels South.
From where we live in Antwerp, it's easier to get to Eindhoven than it is to 'Brussels South'.
Advantage of an airport like Eindhoven is that it is small and quick and easy to get through.
Ryanair will be starting flights from Brussels - the main airport, Zaventem. It will be interesting to see how the fares from other airlines evolve.
From where we live in Antwerp, it's easier to get to Eindhoven than it is to 'Brussels South'.
Advantage of an airport like Eindhoven is that it is small and quick and easy to get through.
Ryanair will be starting flights from Brussels - the main airport, Zaventem. It will be interesting to see how the fares from other airlines evolve.
Dec 14th, 2013, 01:31 AM
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<i>It's not over til the fat lady sings. Well, the fat lady sang (if we can call it that), and she's wrong - the taxes and fees are included in the fare you get quoted on www.ryanair.com</i>
It was originally written when headline prices didn't include taxes and fees - and if what Dily suggests it was originally performed at a private party for a "certain" Irish airline CEO
And things like luggage, paid for seats, insurance, card fees & getting to the arse in the world at 5:00am can put the cost up.
I would have thought the steps thing would have given a clue to it's humorous intent
It was originally written when headline prices didn't include taxes and fees - and if what Dily suggests it was originally performed at a private party for a "certain" Irish airline CEO
And things like luggage, paid for seats, insurance, card fees & getting to the arse in the world at 5:00am can put the cost up.
I would have thought the steps thing would have given a clue to it's humorous intent
Dec 14th, 2013, 02:31 AM
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Now Ryanair's website is more or less transparent, so you see what you get. And what it costs. Formally obscene costs for name changes due to a typo in the booking have been substantially reduced.
Just keep an eye on insurances.. when you are asked which country you reside in, you have to scroll down through the list of countries to find the option "No insurance".
After several lost law suits and government intervention even Ryanair understood that they need to comply with the law (a totally wild concept for O'Leary as anything that's good for Ryanair should be good for mankind). Just as Ryanair employees have been asked to nick ballpens at meetings to save costs, O'Leary takes any kind of free advertising or press coverage he can get. Much cheaper than buying ads.
Flying Ryanair has some advantages:
Due to their strict regime on luggage restriction, boarding is usually speedy and on-time. No time is lost at the gate waiting for Gold status business jocks being a bit late.
Seats do not recline. Which is a plus for taller people as you can't get the seat slammed in your knees.
Secondary airports are not always bad. Not everyone wants to fly into capital cities. And not everyone lives in the capital cities.
Some disadvantages:
Costs and time to get to/from secondary airports to major cities, if those are your destination. Not only is it usually a bit more expensive but you also lose vacation time. As also other airlines which serve major cities have discount fares these days, it pays off to do the full math. Not that you save €10 euros but lose 2 hours trekking to you destination.
Non EU passengers had to validate their tickets before check-in (not sure if that nonsense rule is still in place, no other airline does that - or does it at least during the normal check in procedure)
Just keep an eye on insurances.. when you are asked which country you reside in, you have to scroll down through the list of countries to find the option "No insurance".
After several lost law suits and government intervention even Ryanair understood that they need to comply with the law (a totally wild concept for O'Leary as anything that's good for Ryanair should be good for mankind). Just as Ryanair employees have been asked to nick ballpens at meetings to save costs, O'Leary takes any kind of free advertising or press coverage he can get. Much cheaper than buying ads.
Flying Ryanair has some advantages:
Due to their strict regime on luggage restriction, boarding is usually speedy and on-time. No time is lost at the gate waiting for Gold status business jocks being a bit late.
Seats do not recline. Which is a plus for taller people as you can't get the seat slammed in your knees.
Secondary airports are not always bad. Not everyone wants to fly into capital cities. And not everyone lives in the capital cities.
Some disadvantages:
Costs and time to get to/from secondary airports to major cities, if those are your destination. Not only is it usually a bit more expensive but you also lose vacation time. As also other airlines which serve major cities have discount fares these days, it pays off to do the full math. Not that you save €10 euros but lose 2 hours trekking to you destination.
Non EU passengers had to validate their tickets before check-in (not sure if that nonsense rule is still in place, no other airline does that - or does it at least during the normal check in procedure)
Dec 14th, 2013, 05:15 AM
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Pattie, you have already said that you all have a lot of luggage and they will kill you on bag fees. I saw one lady at the gate in Edinburgh get charged 40 pounds for her carry on bag because it was bigger than they allowed and they weigh everything. We had paid 24 for our check bag on Aer lingus and that made me feel a bit better. I had a small bag but the plane was tiny and they said I could not carry on so had to pay. Watch your plane size also.
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