Rome and Venice Schedule
Nov 5th, 2012, 02:23 PM
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Rome and Venice Schedule
OK. I am in the VERY early stages of planning a rough itinerary for our trip the end of May 2013. I would love any suggestions and I will try to take any criticisms with a smile. I have read many reports and I have a few guidebooks. We are - DH, me, and my sweet mother. We travel frequently together and get along very well. All 3 of us are active and we all love good food. We would love a few suggestions for an "upper end" meal in Rome and Venice and any that you just really loved that aren't too pricey. I am trying to balance "crazy" racing around and touring with sitting around doing nothing. The only thing that is set in stone is the Scavi tour. That is the bucket list item for my mother. Thanks in advance.
May 30 – Thursday Departure for Rome
May 31 – Friday Arrive in Rome - Check into apartment.(near Castel St. Angelo). Walk to Castel St. Angelo to look around. Walk to St. Peters and tour. Dinner somewhere near the apartment (near St. Angelo) or around Piazza Novanna
June 1st – Saturday – Pantheon, Trevi Fountain, Spanish Steps,take the elevator (7€) up to the viewing platform at the Victor Emmanuel II monument, dinner not planned yet?
June 2nd – Sunday – Borghese Gallery (tues-sun 8:30-7:30) ,Palazzo Doria Pamphilj (open 10-6), dinner not planned
June 3rd – Monday – Scavi tour (9am is booked) 1 ½ hours; Colosseum and Forum) , dinner not planned
June 4th – Tuesday –. Schedule the VaticanTour for this day with Walks of Italy for Vatican/Sistine Chapel, (afternoon open) dinner in Trastevare to see the area??
June 5th – Wednesday – Travel to Venice, afternoon at Basilica San Marco and the Piazza, getting lost, (dinner?Crudos at Trattoria Antiche carampane)
June 6th – Thursday – Rialto Market, wandering around getting lost, Gondola Ride
June 7th - Friday – Murano and Burano? Or perhaps Torcello? , La Fenici Concerto 07/06/2013 – not booked yet
June 8th – Saturday – NOTHING YET
June9th -Sunday - Travel to Lake Maggiore – stay until we travel to Milan on the 14th. We have been here before and have some general ideas on what we would like to do – probably some of the same things we did last time and just relax. We do welcome any suggestions.
June 14th - Travel back home
May 30 – Thursday Departure for Rome
May 31 – Friday Arrive in Rome - Check into apartment.(near Castel St. Angelo). Walk to Castel St. Angelo to look around. Walk to St. Peters and tour. Dinner somewhere near the apartment (near St. Angelo) or around Piazza Novanna
June 1st – Saturday – Pantheon, Trevi Fountain, Spanish Steps,take the elevator (7€) up to the viewing platform at the Victor Emmanuel II monument, dinner not planned yet?
June 2nd – Sunday – Borghese Gallery (tues-sun 8:30-7:30) ,Palazzo Doria Pamphilj (open 10-6), dinner not planned
June 3rd – Monday – Scavi tour (9am is booked) 1 ½ hours; Colosseum and Forum) , dinner not planned
June 4th – Tuesday –. Schedule the VaticanTour for this day with Walks of Italy for Vatican/Sistine Chapel, (afternoon open) dinner in Trastevare to see the area??
June 5th – Wednesday – Travel to Venice, afternoon at Basilica San Marco and the Piazza, getting lost, (dinner?Crudos at Trattoria Antiche carampane)
June 6th – Thursday – Rialto Market, wandering around getting lost, Gondola Ride
June 7th - Friday – Murano and Burano? Or perhaps Torcello? , La Fenici Concerto 07/06/2013 – not booked yet
June 8th – Saturday – NOTHING YET
June9th -Sunday - Travel to Lake Maggiore – stay until we travel to Milan on the 14th. We have been here before and have some general ideas on what we would like to do – probably some of the same things we did last time and just relax. We do welcome any suggestions.
June 14th - Travel back home
Nov 5th, 2012, 03:36 PM
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In Rome, consider La Gensola in Trastavere for dinner. For the upper end meal, Glass would be my choice...those parmesan ravioli and the semifreddo are too good for words! We are still dying for more pizza pomodoro from Marco Roscioli...terrific and inexpensive.
Nov 5th, 2012, 06:20 PM
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In Venice a highlight of our trip last May was the opera performance at Musica a Palazzo, held every night of the week in a historic palazzo in San Marco in front of a small audience, we saw Barber of Seville, the lead actress sat on my husband's lap during one scene (he did not mind!) - voice quality, acting, setting all excellent. The audience moves from room to room with the performers and musicians at the end of each act. It's a lot of fun even if you are not an opera buff - highly rated on Trip Advisor. http://www.musicapalazzo.com/program/
Our favorite restaurant in Venice was L'Porta di Acqua in San Polo a few blocks away from the Rialto Bridge. Prices are upscale but reasonable for the quality.
Our favorite restaurant in Venice was L'Porta di Acqua in San Polo a few blocks away from the Rialto Bridge. Prices are upscale but reasonable for the quality.
Nov 6th, 2012, 04:30 AM
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Well done for having done your own research first!
Where are you staying in Venice?
We had holidayed in Venice a lot before being lucky enough to move here 8 months ago. In all the time we have spent here, the stand-out dinner so far, by a long way, was just 2 weeks ago at the Bistrot de Venise for DH's birthday. Website here - http://www.bistrotdevenise.com/eng/index.html and my TA review here - http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUse...ECK_RATES_CONT.
We also recently had a great meal at the Osteria del Ponte del Diavolo on Torcello, and really like La Zucca and the Osteria Enoteca Ai Artisti.
The best meals we ever had in Rome were at La Rosetta & Il Convivio but that was a few years ago. I see they are still listed by Michelin, though.
I was just looking at La Fenice's website so I checked 7th June and it looks as though that day's concert is actually at the Teatro Malibran - I don't know if that makes any difference to you?
Where are you staying in Venice?
We had holidayed in Venice a lot before being lucky enough to move here 8 months ago. In all the time we have spent here, the stand-out dinner so far, by a long way, was just 2 weeks ago at the Bistrot de Venise for DH's birthday. Website here - http://www.bistrotdevenise.com/eng/index.html and my TA review here - http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUse...ECK_RATES_CONT.
We also recently had a great meal at the Osteria del Ponte del Diavolo on Torcello, and really like La Zucca and the Osteria Enoteca Ai Artisti.
The best meals we ever had in Rome were at La Rosetta & Il Convivio but that was a few years ago. I see they are still listed by Michelin, though.
I was just looking at La Fenice's website so I checked 7th June and it looks as though that day's concert is actually at the Teatro Malibran - I don't know if that makes any difference to you?
Nov 6th, 2012, 05:44 AM
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Thanks for the information! I will definitely check out the recommended restaurants. NomadLass, thanks for the link - it looks to be wonderful.
Caroline - I didn't know it was at the Teatro Malibran....hmmmm..not even sure where this is. Shoot - we wanted to experience La Fenici. Do you know if you can schedule a tour at La Fenice?
We are staying at http://www.rosadivenezia.com/ which was recommended by someone on the boards (I can't remember now).
I really do appreciate all of the advice.
Caroline - I didn't know it was at the Teatro Malibran....hmmmm..not even sure where this is. Shoot - we wanted to experience La Fenici. Do you know if you can schedule a tour at La Fenice?
We are staying at http://www.rosadivenezia.com/ which was recommended by someone on the boards (I can't remember now).
I really do appreciate all of the advice.
Nov 6th, 2012, 07:32 AM
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My favorite meal in Venice was at Ristorante da Ivo. It is a small, cozy restaurant with terrific food and service. It is rather pricey though.
I also like Ristorante da Raffaele which is also good but less pricey. It is on a rio next to a gondola station, and you can sit outside. We had a dinner reservation and arranged for a dusk gondola ride right before (back rios with a bit on the Grand Canal); it was very handy (I had planned it that way). We were returned and had dinner.
Do you have ideas for your Saturday in Venice?
I also like Ristorante da Raffaele which is also good but less pricey. It is on a rio next to a gondola station, and you can sit outside. We had a dinner reservation and arranged for a dusk gondola ride right before (back rios with a bit on the Grand Canal); it was very handy (I had planned it that way). We were returned and had dinner.
Do you have ideas for your Saturday in Venice?
Nov 6th, 2012, 11:01 AM
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Yes, you can do a self-guided tour of La Fenice with an audioguide almost any day. (The Malibran is a lot less spectacular, decor-wise.) http://www.festfenice.com/en/node/66
Ah, that's Franco's preferred apartment, I believe, so I expect you got it off his recommended accommo thread. You could walk from there to the Bistrot de Venise in about 10 minutes (if you don't get lost!) or get a number 1 vaporetto to San Stae which La Zucca is quite close to.
Ah, that's Franco's preferred apartment, I believe, so I expect you got it off his recommended accommo thread. You could walk from there to the Bistrot de Venise in about 10 minutes (if you don't get lost!) or get a number 1 vaporetto to San Stae which La Zucca is quite close to.
Nov 6th, 2012, 02:11 PM
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Delaine, I will look into both of your recommendations. I especially like the idea of the Gondolo and then dinner. Great idea. I have nothing planned for Saturday so if you have something special I would love to hear it!
Caroline, I am sure we will get lost but that is great news about the restaurant being so close. I am so glad to know about the Fenice.
Caroline, I am sure we will get lost but that is great news about the restaurant being so close. I am so glad to know about the Fenice.
Nov 6th, 2012, 03:51 PM
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In researching our trip, I found it difficult to obtain information about guided tours at La Fenice. So, we decided to do the self-guided tour and enjoyed it. Prior to the trip we read "The City of Falling Angels" by John Berendt, a non-fiction account of the 1996 fire that destroyed the opera house, and that made the tour much more meaningful.
Nov 7th, 2012, 09:06 AM
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Willowjane,
Ristorante da Raffaele is near Santa Maria del Giglio, about a 10 min. walk or less from Piazza San Marco.
There's so much to see in Venice, but I would really recommend the Church of Santa Maria Gloriosa dei Frari. It has some wonderful art inside and is completely different than the Basilica di San Marco.
I also really enjoyed going over to San Giorgio Maggiore to ascend the elevator to the top of the Campanile. I think the view you get from it is better than at San Marco. It is also much less crowded. You can take the vaporetto over and then continue on afterward, getting off somewhere along the Zattere. We stopped near the Gesuati and had gelato at Gelateria da Nico, which was very good. If you keep walking (opposite direction from the Gesuati) you will come to a Fondamenta that will lead you to the Squero, the gondola workshop. There is also a good gelateria right after you turn called Lo Squero.
One night after dinner try to go have drinks, coffee and/or dessert at one of the caffes in Piazza San Marco. Sit outside and listen to the orchestras. (I like Caffe Lavena - you can hear their orchestra as well as that of Quadri). It is magical.
Ristorante da Raffaele is near Santa Maria del Giglio, about a 10 min. walk or less from Piazza San Marco.
There's so much to see in Venice, but I would really recommend the Church of Santa Maria Gloriosa dei Frari. It has some wonderful art inside and is completely different than the Basilica di San Marco.
I also really enjoyed going over to San Giorgio Maggiore to ascend the elevator to the top of the Campanile. I think the view you get from it is better than at San Marco. It is also much less crowded. You can take the vaporetto over and then continue on afterward, getting off somewhere along the Zattere. We stopped near the Gesuati and had gelato at Gelateria da Nico, which was very good. If you keep walking (opposite direction from the Gesuati) you will come to a Fondamenta that will lead you to the Squero, the gondola workshop. There is also a good gelateria right after you turn called Lo Squero.
One night after dinner try to go have drinks, coffee and/or dessert at one of the caffes in Piazza San Marco. Sit outside and listen to the orchestras. (I like Caffe Lavena - you can hear their orchestra as well as that of Quadri). It is magical.
Nov 7th, 2012, 01:08 PM
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Nomadlass - I had read the Berendt book before, but I have it downloaded on my kindle and I am reading it again in preparation! Delaine - Thanks! I will follow you advice. I am pasting the information into my trip notes now.
Delaine - Thanks! I will follow you advice. I am pasting the information into my trip notes now.
Nov 7th, 2012, 02:59 PM
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I wrote a couple of long trip reports about Venice. A bit verbose, but we were there for a couple of months, so I was writing while my wife was doing water colour paintings.
http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...st-verbose.cfm
http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...rip-report.cfm
They might give you some ideas.
http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...st-verbose.cfm
http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...rip-report.cfm
They might give you some ideas.
Nov 7th, 2012, 03:53 PM
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Peter - "I like the process, and I'm inclined to think that you can have an experience three times over, once in the planning, once in the doing, and once in retrospect."
I feel the same way and will savor your trip report! Thanks.
I feel the same way and will savor your trip report! Thanks.
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In Rome our family really loves the Hosaria Costanza which sits in a stone grotto underneath Pompey's Theatre. In Venice, we enjoy a seafood restaurant called Trattoria Alla Madonna. We loved a private guide in Rome named Silvana Vallauri and in Venice we really enjoyed a guide named Rosanna Gianotti.
