Go Back  Fodor's Travel Talk Forums > Destinations > Europe
Reload this Page >

Renfe trains now to have coded passenger name on them

Search

Renfe trains now to have coded passenger name on them

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 7th, 2014, 01:33 PM
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 12,492
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Renfe trains now to have coded passenger name on them

All online purchases and tickets bought for Ave and long distance trains will now have passenger info on them , but coded so as not to invade privacy. The name can be changed up to 15 minutes beforehand. But passengers will need to have ID to board.
lincasanova is offline  
Old May 7th, 2014, 01:43 PM
  #2  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 78,320
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ah the pain in Spain will mainly be on the train - what about day trippers who do not always take their passports with them?
PalenQ is offline  
Old May 7th, 2014, 02:03 PM
  #3  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 11,212
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
How is having your name on a ticket an invasion of privacy?
adrienne is offline  
Old May 7th, 2014, 03:28 PM
  #4  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 12,492
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well, the article said to "protect your privacy", not invade. Everyone will have to have some sort of ID to use tickets on the trains that require this information ( not commuter trains). It does´t say "passport". A credit card or DL will probably suffice.
lincasanova is offline  
Old May 7th, 2014, 03:33 PM
  #5  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 78,320
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I wonder what is the why why this policy is taking effect - what's the problemo and why does RENFE care who is using a ticket, especially if it is a full fare ticket. I men if the name can be changed easily up to a few minutes before the train, why or why?

Security? If so seems silly - terrorists will usually have fake IDs - like American passports!
PalenQ is offline  
Old May 7th, 2014, 03:37 PM
  #6  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 12,492
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Probably after the sad crash it will make it easier to get in touch with family members. Also, no doubt there is some security issue also. As you may well know, PalenQ,, we seem to have an abundance of AL Qaida trained fellows lurking around getting arrested once in awhile. Fraud was also mentioned.
lincasanova is offline  
Old May 7th, 2014, 09:08 PM
  #7  
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 747
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Another possible reason is to stop people who buy up cheap tickets and resell them to make a profit. That certainly happens sometimes in Sweden.

And since I booked travel on both Renfe and Alsa for my trip I can see that my Alsa tickets all have my name clearly printed on them. Is that because they were discount tickets or is it the same for full price tickets?
anyegr is offline  
Old May 7th, 2014, 09:13 PM
  #8  
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 747
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
lincasanova: Sorry, I just noticed the part about being able to change passenger names. That means my theory is completely wrong.
anyegr is offline  
Old May 7th, 2014, 11:10 PM
  #9  
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,729
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This will be all about stopping fraud and/or ticket scalping. I was always surprised that there were so few anti-fraud checks with Spanish print-at-home tickets.

The French Railways have always required a name and ID with a self-print ticket, the Germans match the ticket with the last 4 digits of the credit card used.

Print-at-home tickets can obviously have multiple copies printed out, and be re-sold, and so on.
Man_in_seat_61 is offline  
Old May 7th, 2014, 11:17 PM
  #10  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 12,492
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yes, one was able to resell any ticket .. as you could re-print them with the code, even at the station, but that annulled the previously printed one.. so theoretically someone could get to the statin and when their ticket was scanned they could be told that the holder of that ticket already boarded the train.
lincasanova is offline  
Old May 7th, 2014, 11:36 PM
  #11  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,760
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A link(in Spanish) as to why this has been implemented.
http://trenhub.com/blog/los-nuevos-b...no-nominativos
Note is is not just the tickets for the AVE trains either. AVENT and long distance trains are included too.
ribeirasacra is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Original Poster
Forum
Replies
Last Post
elbegewa
Europe
8
May 25th, 2015 11:19 PM
sparkchaser
Europe
42
May 8th, 2015 05:49 AM
aggiegirl
Europe
9
Feb 12th, 2014 07:45 PM
ellinteoh
Europe
6
Mar 29th, 2013 10:41 AM
jlp
Europe
6
Mar 13th, 2006 11:10 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -