Protests in Paris getting violent in the 7th
Jun 16th, 2016, 06:10 AM
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Protests in Paris getting violent in the 7th
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36531345
This seems much more than a typical protest. Necker Children's Hospital windows smashed, cars on fire, tear gas, water canons!
If anyone is in Paris right now and staying in the 7th, can you give an update please?!
This seems much more than a typical protest. Necker Children's Hospital windows smashed, cars on fire, tear gas, water canons!
If anyone is in Paris right now and staying in the 7th, can you give an update please?!
Jun 16th, 2016, 06:39 AM
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That was a couple days ago. There is a bad history of burning cars in France, unfortunately, during protests. No, it wasn't a typical protest where people just march with signs or something, it disrupted a block.
The head of CGT condemned the violence but said they bore no responsibility for it and said it wasn't that bad, not like the oil refineries. Hollande and Vells threatened to consider banning the allowance of certain manifestations on a case by case basis. The head of CGT is scheduled to meet with the minister of labor on Friday.
The head of CGT condemned the violence but said they bore no responsibility for it and said it wasn't that bad, not like the oil refineries. Hollande and Vells threatened to consider banning the allowance of certain manifestations on a case by case basis. The head of CGT is scheduled to meet with the minister of labor on Friday.
Jun 16th, 2016, 07:02 AM
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A french Union.
Actually (albeit I said I wouldn't be involved in polical discussions) CGT is losing members because they are quite stubborn and radicals and are only a few % of the french workers.
However they are very strong in some indusgtries / Companies like SNCF and EDF (trains and electricity).
Martinez, head of CGT, on top of being a radicalist and quite stubborn is playing it rough in the hope to stop losing members and regain popularity. So he doesn't want to let go of anything.
Valls is doing the same, probably thinking of presidential electeions, so he doesn't want to let go of anything.
Hence the deadlock. El Kohmri law just 'just' the spark that ignited it.
It is to be noted that El Kohmri proposal includes that agrrements may be voted at the level of individual companies, not at the level of the 'branch' (a full profession). That would mean a lot less influence for the CGT. And they don't want that.
Welcome in France. They behave still like at Versailles under Louis XIV. Fights for influence.
Actually (albeit I said I wouldn't be involved in polical discussions) CGT is losing members because they are quite stubborn and radicals and are only a few % of the french workers.
However they are very strong in some indusgtries / Companies like SNCF and EDF (trains and electricity).
Martinez, head of CGT, on top of being a radicalist and quite stubborn is playing it rough in the hope to stop losing members and regain popularity. So he doesn't want to let go of anything.
Valls is doing the same, probably thinking of presidential electeions, so he doesn't want to let go of anything.
Hence the deadlock. El Kohmri law just 'just' the spark that ignited it.
It is to be noted that El Kohmri proposal includes that agrrements may be voted at the level of individual companies, not at the level of the 'branch' (a full profession). That would mean a lot less influence for the CGT. And they don't want that.
Welcome in France. They behave still like at Versailles under Louis XIV. Fights for influence.
Jun 16th, 2016, 07:16 AM
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This occurred Tuesday, it was a sanctioned demonstration but it is now old news. I inspected some of the route yesterday and was surprised at how quickly much of the devastation had been cleaned up. There was serious damage done to several bank fronts along blvd du Montparnasse (in the 6th) and to the Necker hospital across the street (in the 15th). The Necker hospital has a glass exterior and many of the ground floor panes were broken. Many of the new bus stops were also destroyed including a few of the new LED schedule screens. The papers reported two serious injuries. I assume that there were a number of arrests as well.
I didn´t see any damage in the 7th which would have been along blvd des Invalides which is what blvd du Montparnasse becomes as it leads northwest.
The government has stated that they are not willing to issue anymore demonstration permits to the CGT, at least not in the near future.
Whenever there are large crowds, criminal elements or gangs take advantage to throw rocks and destroy property.
It is very east for tourists to avoid these events and separate themselves from demonstrations of this type.
I didn´t see any damage in the 7th which would have been along blvd des Invalides which is what blvd du Montparnasse becomes as it leads northwest.
The government has stated that they are not willing to issue anymore demonstration permits to the CGT, at least not in the near future.
Whenever there are large crowds, criminal elements or gangs take advantage to throw rocks and destroy property.
It is very east for tourists to avoid these events and separate themselves from demonstrations of this type.
Jun 16th, 2016, 11:54 AM
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The newspaper today said that this is nothing new - people have been causing trouble during otherwise peaceful protest marches since the 1970's, and it was much more violent, then.
The paper also interviewed psychologists, elected officials and philosophers - all of them concluded that there is way too much information for people to absorb - and that it's often incorrect information given second-hand from people who are not in Paris - and it's best to just stop watching the news and stay off social media for a few hours a day.
The paper also interviewed psychologists, elected officials and philosophers - all of them concluded that there is way too much information for people to absorb - and that it's often incorrect information given second-hand from people who are not in Paris - and it's best to just stop watching the news and stay off social media for a few hours a day.
Jun 16th, 2016, 05:34 PM
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I've been in Paris for 6 days now and am in the 6th and have been walking around in the 7th, on the metro all over, and walking around a lot in other areas. There were quite a few police cars coming through the 6th on Tuesday. But, as for the rest of Paris, it's been peaceful. One thing for sure is that I've never seen Paris so uncrowded in the 40 years that I've been coming here during this time of the year. A friend has also commented about it.
Every place that we have been, we've been able to just walk in and not stand in any long lines, like the Museum D'Orsay , on Wednesday, where only two people were ahead of us, and also the great exhibit of the famous, Malian photographer, Seydou Keita, at the Grand Palais where there were large roped off areas, but no one in them. I had bought my ticket online before leaving L.A. , but it wasn't even necessary.
The LV Foundation was also not crowded yesterday and my friend took off to some other museums later yesterday and there were no big crowds. The biggest crowds were yesterday after coming out of the metro at Porte D'Orleans. Traffic and people everywhere. I met a Parisian friend there and we walked to see his new apartment building that's being built and then walked over to the metro at Alesia and then came back to the 6th where we cooked dinner,ate, and then he went home to the 10th. It's been the same with the shopping as the boutiques have been quite empty, but the sales people have been really happy, cheerful, and helpful.
Happy Travels!
Every place that we have been, we've been able to just walk in and not stand in any long lines, like the Museum D'Orsay , on Wednesday, where only two people were ahead of us, and also the great exhibit of the famous, Malian photographer, Seydou Keita, at the Grand Palais where there were large roped off areas, but no one in them. I had bought my ticket online before leaving L.A. , but it wasn't even necessary.
The LV Foundation was also not crowded yesterday and my friend took off to some other museums later yesterday and there were no big crowds. The biggest crowds were yesterday after coming out of the metro at Porte D'Orleans. Traffic and people everywhere. I met a Parisian friend there and we walked to see his new apartment building that's being built and then walked over to the metro at Alesia and then came back to the 6th where we cooked dinner,ate, and then he went home to the 10th. It's been the same with the shopping as the boutiques have been quite empty, but the sales people have been really happy, cheerful, and helpful.
Happy Travels!
