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Old Dec 6th, 2013, 11:50 PM
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Planning a holiday

Hi I am planning a 45 day holiday. This is what I would like to do.
1 Sept Fly from New Zealand to London
Spend 2 days in London
I want to visit these countries:
Scotland
Ireland
Germany
Denmark
Rome
Greece
Greek islands in particular Crete
Fly back to London spend another 2 days
Depart London Heathrow back to New Zealand 13 October, will arrive home on 15 Oct.

Which is the best way to travel this? Does anyone have good accommodation tips.

Is this achievable or a little too ambitious in terms of time?
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I think you are trying to do too much. Except for Rome and London the other places you have listed are entire countries. It would better to refine your plan and come back with thr new plan.

You could easily spend a few weeks in Crete so have a think about how much time you want to spend there and deduct that from the total.

You will be jetlagged when you arrive in London so be prepared for those first toe days to be a bit foggy.

Re accommodation, without a price range it's hard to recommend anything so come back with an amount per night, preferably in euros.
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Old Dec 7th, 2013, 12:12 AM
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Thanks. Refine my list
Germany - visit Munich and Belfast
Ireland - Belfast and Dublin
Scotland - Edinburgh not sure of other places to visit
Denmark - Copenhagen
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Still wanting to go to Rome, Greece and Greek Islands, that is the major part of my plan.
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Old Dec 7th, 2013, 12:21 AM
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Germany - visit Munich and Belfast, did you mean Berlin?

And, do you want hotel recommendations or hostels? How much overnight can you afford?
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45 days is a reasonable time to see the cities listed, just be aware that countries are not defined by their cities but by their people.. Dublin and Belfast are not typical of Ireland so if you want to see Ireland you need at least a couple of days with us culchies outside the city bounds. same can be said for the other spots.. London to Edinburgh can be done on a sleeper train but you will sleep your way through many places well worth spending time to actually see.
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I would say 45 days is the best time to explore these cities. You have chosen a wonderful list. Good luck and happy travels !
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Old Dec 7th, 2013, 04:55 AM
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Totally doable!
London, Denmark, Germany, Rome, Greece, Crete, Ireland, Scotland.

flight price example...

London - Denmark 43eur
Denmark - Germany 110eur
Germany - Rome 39eur
Rome - Greece 67eur
Greece - Crete 43eur
Crete - Ireland 200eur
Ireland - Scotland 29eur
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Old Dec 7th, 2013, 05:55 AM
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Rome - Greece 67eur
Greece - Crete 43eur

Greece is a country.... do you mean Athens?
also Crete belongs to Greece....
the flight from Greece to Crete makes no sense....
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It makes little sense to leave Greece and islands until the end of the trip when yuo are heading into off season. Better to do those first when weather is more beachy and everything is still open.

So fly from London to Athens and then make your way back in steps.

And agree that you are are really seeing only major cities - fine if you are focused on museums, theater, opera, etc. If you want to see any of the countryside/small towns or villages or do much active (hiking, climbing, seeing wineries, etc) you will need to allow time for that - and cut back on our number of destinations.

Also - you are giving London very short shrift - really only 2 full days and 2 part - unless you have been there before I would allow at least 5 days (7 with any day trips).

As for lodging - you really need to give us a nightly budget in euros or pounds.
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Without knowing your interests and why you have picked those particular locations, it's difficult to advise. If you want to visit Munich, try to time it for late September so you can be there during Oktoberfest.

Generally I think you have the right idea in starting with the UK/Ireland and ending with the Greek Islands. Scotland and Ireland will be pleasant at the beginning of September, but by October autumn weather will have set in.

October is the end of season in the Greek Islands, but weather and sea temperatures will still be warm, and prices lower than in high season. It will be quieter than a month earlier, so if you are looking to party that is the wrong time.
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Great information thank you all. Earthquakes, use to these not that I like them but accept them like any other natural occurrence. Oktoberfest, I guess I'm going at a good time, this will help with my planning.

I am interested in the people, food and outdoors. Although I enjoy architecture and all those touristy things I prefer to get amongst the real culture.

I don't mind hotels or budget accommodation as long as i have somewhere safe to sleep. Budget is whatever I need to spend to have a great 45 days. Flying may be the best mode of transport, get to places quickly to maximise time there. Would love to do a train ride or two.
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Considering you have 45 days.

London 5 days
Paris 5 days
Strasbourg 5 days
Munich 5 days
Venice 5 days
Rome 5 days
Naples 5 days
Athens 3 days
Santorini 3 days
Rethymnon (Crete) 2 days
Chania (Crete) 2 days
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Of course one can divide it into those 5 day blocks . . . but allocating the same amount of time to massive cities w/ much more to see/do like London, Paris or Rome and cities like Strasbourg, Munich or even Venice doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Dublin doesn't compare to Edinburgh, nor does Ireland to Scotland, but if you're going to either you need at least a week to wander about the countryside.

London, Paris and Rome merit a LOT of time, even if you do travel like a typical Kiwi (run from place to place, snap pictures, move to next destination, explain that no you're not Australian, repeat).
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All feedback is very helpful. I'm impressed BigRuss, you've picked up that I'm a Kiwi that will, run from place to place, running shoes will be the priority item in my bag. Planning the holiday is so much fun. Thank you everyone.
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And what about Italy?
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