Overstaying 90 day Schengen stay limit

Old Sep 26th, 2016, 07:30 AM
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Overstaying 90 day Schengen stay limit

I am from the US and am studying abroad in Barcelona for 87 days. There is no way for me to get a student visa, and my program director can't extend my trip by 3 days in order for me to get a visa. I my family is planning on meeting me in Barcelona on my 87th day and we are planning to go to Italy on my 89th or 90th day. We are planning on staying in Italy for about 10 days, staying in only Italy for those 10 days, and then flying back to the US from Italy. If I get caught overstaying my 90 day limit, what are the consequences? Has anyone ever dealt with a situation like this? Would it be smarter to just meet my family in Italy rather than have them meet me in Spain (saving money and already be in Italy before I reach my 90 day limit). Thank you! Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Old Sep 26th, 2016, 07:37 AM
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The answers haven't really changed from your other two threads asking the same thing.

http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...dency-card.cfm

http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...is-90-days.cfm

You need to visit a non-schengen country(s) w/ your family . . .
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Old Sep 26th, 2016, 07:39 AM
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Do you intend to keep asking the same question until you are caught overstaying your visa? You have had several responses to your other threads.

During your 87 days study period you will need to leave Schengen for a minimum of 10 days in order to do what you want to do. Why not go to a non Schengen country with your family?
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Old Sep 26th, 2016, 07:41 AM
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http://www.euro-dollar-currency.com/...engen_visa.htm
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Old Sep 26th, 2016, 07:55 AM
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It appears to me that Nicole isn't much interested in knowing how to avoid overstaying the 90 day limit as she asks "...what are the consequences?" I think she has every intention of overstaying and simply wants to know what to expect. Does anyone know? I suspect it'll be exclusion for a number of years and what else, if anything?
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Old Sep 26th, 2016, 08:00 AM
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Well, good elberko, very interesting. Apparently, there is no definitive answer, she'll have to wait to find out. Nicole, do let us know what happens.
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Old Sep 26th, 2016, 08:08 AM
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If you get caught it can make it very difficult to enter other countries since you will most likely get a stamp in your passport to the effect that you overstayed. Even without that an exit stamp may be placed making it clear to other immigration officials (who can do maths) that you overstayed. Other countries, with or without visa requirements will not be so keen to allow a visa overstayer in.

You seem determined to break the law no matter what anyone here says. No doubt you will get away with it, and will probably come back to brag about it too.
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Old Sep 26th, 2016, 08:23 AM
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Hello Nicole.
Don't listen to these people. They are snarky. Of course you have to ask. But you could ask on other forums.
Tip : open a window of internet, go to google.com
type in the search szone (big rectangle in front of you, smack in the middle) : 'overstay schengen visa consequences'

And poof the magic : lots of answers...
I clicked on the first post :
http://www.euro-dollar-currency.com/...engen_visa.htm

So your answer is : 'what do I risk: ban, fine, deportation'

And how magical ! they even have answers to questions you didn't post, like 'how do I get caught overstaying '

And lately, I found a gem ...

One way to avoid overstaying Schengen visa is to get a 30 day extension to the 90 day tourist visa. Most countries allow tourists to extend their visa for up to 120 days without any significant paperwork.

Whoaw, who would have thought of that ?? doing a search on google ??? Do you think I can patent my bright idea ?
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Old Sep 26th, 2016, 08:56 AM
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Sign up for another semester so you can get your student visa and don't have to worry about the silly Schnegen rules. Will cost your parents a pretty penny but so what.
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Old Sep 26th, 2016, 08:59 AM
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That link (that was provided twice) does NOT cite any authority for extending the 90 day tourist visa. Plus it is 4 years old and probably significantly out of date.

Go to a non-Schengen country and quit trying to break the rules . . .
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Old Sep 26th, 2016, 09:23 AM
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Another stupid idea : call the consulate.
It sounds weird, but when I studied abroad I called them and they were helpful.
But I confess I dind't read the other threads.

Or she can sort it out by herself.
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Old Sep 26th, 2016, 11:08 AM
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Why so many defenders of the global world order? I am genuinely curious why the idea of breaking immigration rules offends so many of you so deeply that you can practically hear the spittle hitting your screens.

Border restrictions are tools of oppression. Draw a line, plant a flag, defend both, pit Us vs Them and watch the centuries roll by. What used to be a moat with vats of boiling oil on the parapets above it is now a Schengen border.

I wouldn't *recommend* breaking the rules because facing the consequences could be painful, but I sure as hell wouldn't defend them.
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Old Sep 26th, 2016, 12:21 PM
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Like the US welcomes every one to stay for ever NewbE. At least Schengen does require you to pay to register with them before you enter, unlike the US with its so called visa waiver ESTA (read Visa) requirement.
The main reason for the responses is that this is the third time the same person has asked exactly the same question.

An extension of 30 days is possible, but is normally only granted if you are forced to remain, due to illness, injury or being unable to return to your home country for some major reason.

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Old Sep 26th, 2016, 12:52 PM
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<Like the US welcomes every one to stay for ever NewbE. >

They don't. Who said they did? Was I unclear? Let's see:

<Border restrictions are tools of oppression. >

Full stop.

Pretty clear.
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Old Sep 26th, 2016, 03:45 PM
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What are the consequences if you get caught?

I know a painter who has spent illegal time in Tuscany ever summer for years. He has gotten away with it because he was raised in Tuscany by ex-Pat parents, and he has a Tuscan accent.

Two years ago, he decided to fly back through Switzerland rather than Rome. The Swiss Border guards nailed his butt, fined him the Sf equivalent of $500, and banned him from Schengen for two years. Yes, all Schengen.

So that is a possible consequence.
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Old Sep 27th, 2016, 02:37 PM
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Out of 180 days you can only spend 90 in a schengen country, so just leaving for 30 days will not do it. she would need to leave for 90 days.
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