OaktownTraveler

If you got this far you probably and easily noticed the civility on the Europe Board today...

I am an "old" timer(1999) and was wondering what more could "WE/YOU" do to keep this board busy, civil and exciting?

I know that if I stay out of travel fashion threads or travel shoe threads that I help to keep the peace...

What about you? What do you know that you could do to help us all get along?

Anybody else feel like sharing?...you can drink during this session if you wish.

I am having a Pedroncelli Sauvignon Blanc...

Oh, let's try and be "cyber-sensitive" if you have something constructive to suggest or offer as a response to any poster who contributes to this thread...

Oaktown Traveler

FauxSteMarie

"What about you? What do you know that you could do to help us all get along?"

Any suggestion that "amity" will last more than a few nanoseconds on this board would be "faux".

KS452

I don't care whether this board is civilised or not - I'm a big boy capable of separating the wheat from the chaff. I resent having civil travel-related threads that I've contributed to being deleted wholesale while numerous other insipid non travel-related ones remain unscathed forever.

That you deem yourself as "an old timer" and imply that gives you special rights to ensure the discourse herein is "busy, civil and exciting" means nothing to me. Absolutely nothing.

I couldn't care less about your wardrobe or any chatter that ensues about it.

People would, without doubt, naturally "get along" better without control freaks dictating perceived etiquette.

People who toss wine label names out as a clue to their sophistication are almost always clueless braggarts.

This is what I feel like sharing.

Hope this this contribution was sensitive and constructive enough for you.

I've had thoughts of summoning jsmith to drive his bandwagon in my direction so I can jump aboard.

tpatricco

Suggestions? Not directed toward anyone specifically, but everyone on here: Give and accept travel advice. Share personal experiences & sources of pride in your life. Don't criticize the advice or experiences others give even if you (gasp!) don't agree (or heaven forbid are jealous). Don't continually bait others who you know darn well are provolked easily (we all know very well who they are) Don't reward negative behavior with attention; instead ignore the negative behavior. Act like grown ups. Seems simple...but let's see if we can do it.

Clifton

Do unto others as....

OaktownTraveler

ok...that was a good start...

I did say what I could do, my third paragraph...original post.

My "old-timer" stuff is in relation to the "How Long Have You Been A Fodorite".
Means nothing as stated.

I have no right to do as you post...I am just pondering and posting with you other travel posters...couldn't quite talk playoffs with you...

Oh, and that wine thing...at night some travel posters drink and we share. I usually say cocktail or wine but I had the bottle right next to the keyboard so I shared the winery...hardly sophisticated to be drinking from the bottle while I post...not at all what the intention was...to wine label drop. Intention was to lighten the mood...drink of course and share...

Tpatricco and Clifton: YES! Very good.

To me, this is a very good. Thanks for caring enough to post.

Good Night,
Oaktown Traveler

sheila

OT, it was a great idea.

I have learned to stay out of the threads that tee me off. So I rarely open anything related to packing or clothes. (only mildly irritating)

I think the thing that causes me most grief is that one can't praise one thing or place, without someone perceiving it as an attack on something else.

I think, however, that we just have to live with it. It ain't gonna change.

Marko

is it really a bad thing to share an experience of a particular place in a personal way. Isn't travelling about feeling as well as seeing. I find it hard to be objective about places that effected me on a personal level, in my own way I like to think that it contains advice that can be used, just as I have used a huge amount of advice from this forum. I suppose we are all either fiction or non fiction readers.

Singletail

I have to say that when I have asked a (what I call) "legitimate" question I've usually gotten the information I need and in that regard I find the forum has been helpful.

I suspect many of the so-called frivolous posts are probably indicative if the mindset/personality of the various posters and I suppose we should be grateful we aren't forced to travel with those folks.

"Civility" (and "intelligence&quot are pretty relative and subjective terms. People get different things from a site such as this (including the management which seems particularly nervous when posts start including what some of its, shall we say, "hidden" benefits might be) and I think there isn't really much rhyme or reason why certain posts get deleted and some don't. I think we all know by now that posts which aren't travel-related remain long after some of those that are no more or less so get yanked.

Take it, and the "information" offered for what it is actually worth (and DON'T let the place run your entire day) and move on. Uhhhhh...just MY opinion, of course!

ira

>People who toss wine label names out as a clue to their sophistication are almost always clueless braggarts.<

Hmmmmmm. OT mentions that he's sipping a CA wine available for under $10 and is accused of bragging. There's civility and sophistication for you.

OT,

What kind of cheese did you have with it?

m_kingdom2

""People who toss wine label names out as a clue to their sophistication are almost always clueless braggarts""

If wine isn't relevant to the topic, tossing in a name to show your supposed sophistication is so dreadfully naff. Sophistication isn't about material things, it's about the way one carries oneself. In America you have this idea that the more money, the more class you have, how wrong you are. There are many penniless tittled (Lords, Barons, Earls etc...) people in Britain, but they ooze more class out of their little fingers than the wealthiest most nouveau riche American ever could.

Hope you haven't drowned in your "Pedroncelli Sauvignon Blanc" dear.

internetexplorer

How does one's mere possession of a title insure that one also has 'class' (or sophistication, savior faire, intelligence, wit, charm, kindness ,or any other attribute)?

mr_go

<b>m_kingdom2</b>:
Naff? That's a new one on me. Derivation?

<b>Clifton</b>:
Exactly right. Best rule-of-thumb moral compass ever devised.

m_kingdom2

Naff - Americans wearing shirts tucked into shorts, people who live in Essex, Hampstead, etc. etc.

Get with the times dear.

mr_go

For anyone curious:

naff [n&aelig;f]
adjective (British) (slang)
inferior; in poor taste
[ETYMOLOGY: 19th Century: perhaps back slang for fan, short for fanny]

SiobhanP

Naff to me is cheesy, tacky, outdated or at least that's how we use it here.

sfowler

That would include, I fear, our very own m_k2 -- who is definitely in bad taste.

JoeG

OaktownTraveler,
Your posts are always well written and entertaining. Even the travel fashion threads. You paint a word picture. When you mention the wine it enhances and personalizes your comments. What's wrong with that?

Have you ever tried Franciscan
Chardonnay? Year in and year out they produce a very respectable aged in oak casks white. It is what I would consider a medium price - around $16.

The travel information that is shared here is priceless and generally spot on. But what's so bad about a little lively banter? We can take it.

JoeG

Surfergirl

I can't do anything, other than what I continue to do since day one: stay out of threads which have conflict (be they personality, political, etc.), stay out of any discussions involving San Francisco (which seem to be the ugliest conflicts on the board) and usually not respond to threads where the first poster has attitude in response to someone's suggestion.

I did have qualms last night responding to one poster, but I did provide information in spite of my concerns.

m_kingdom2

JoeG, how much more sychophantic can you get? Do you want to go on a date with him?

(I have paraphrased the much ruder and more blunt response I would like to have written)