Munich airport to Fussen
Aug 10th, 2008, 07:08 PM
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Munich airport to Fussen
We will be arriving in Munich at 16:10 in early December after a long flight from Australia and will be hiring a car from the airport. We would like to drive straight from the airport to Fussen (mappy tells me this is over 2 hours' driving time). Is this advisable, or should we stay in Munich for the night and then drive to Fussen the next day?
Aug 10th, 2008, 07:42 PM
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SPEND THE NITE IN MUNICH....THERE is a marriott near the airport and some other hotels and then go to see the king...go into munich for the evening to enjoy the christmas market on the main square by the church....very festive..
if you do that maybe you should stay in town or nearer to town than the airport
lots of hotels and B&B's--zimmer freis
if you do that maybe you should stay in town or nearer to town than the airport
lots of hotels and B&B's--zimmer freis
Aug 11th, 2008, 02:19 AM
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Ditto.
If you went straight to Füssen, you would start your road trip during rush hour (if you arrived on a working day). Spending first hours of your vacation with jet lag in traffic jams (on the *wrong* side of the road), dealing with low visibility (sun will set early in December) and possibly less than perfect road conditions do not sound like a good idea at all.
Stay at the airport, or go downtown by train and stay there (and pick up car downtown, in that case) - and start fresh next morning.
If you went straight to Füssen, you would start your road trip during rush hour (if you arrived on a working day). Spending first hours of your vacation with jet lag in traffic jams (on the *wrong* side of the road), dealing with low visibility (sun will set early in December) and possibly less than perfect road conditions do not sound like a good idea at all.
Stay at the airport, or go downtown by train and stay there (and pick up car downtown, in that case) - and start fresh next morning.
Aug 11th, 2008, 03:53 AM
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Yes, if it were summer with a late sunset, then it would fine to drive. But coupling your long flight, rush hour traffic, and early darkness, I'd wait and go to it early the next morning.
We drove it in about 1-3/4 hours 2 years ago--actually just a little bit farther as we stayed in Hohenschwangau.
If you pick up your car in Munich, you won't pay the airport pickup car rental charge.
We drove it in about 1-3/4 hours 2 years ago--actually just a little bit farther as we stayed in Hohenschwangau.
If you pick up your car in Munich, you won't pay the airport pickup car rental charge.
Aug 11th, 2008, 05:35 PM
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Thanks for the advice. I had forgotten about rush hour which is strange as I spend a great deal of my life sitting in traffic! Our real problem is lack of time because we want to cram Munich, Leopold II's castles (Neuschwanstein, Hohenschwangau, and Linderhof), Salzburg, Cesky Krumlov, Prague and Berlin all into eight days! We have to be in Rome by the night of the 8th day. Perhaps we should do the following:
Day 1: arrive late in Munich. Spend night in Munich
Day 2: Some sightseeing in Munich in the morning, then drive to Linderfhof castle. Spend night in Fussen.
Day 3: Visit Hohenschwangau and Neuschwanstein castles. Drive to Salzburg. Spend night in Salzburg.
Day 4: Do the Mozart/sound of music sights for daughter who is an avid musician. Drive to Cesky Krumlov. Spend night in Cesky Krumlov.
Day 5: Cesky Krumlov.
Day 6: Drive to Prague. Do Prague sight-seeing. Spend night in Prague.
Day 7: Prague sightseeing. Drive to Berlin. Night in Berlin
Day 8: Berlin sightseeing. Evening flight to Rome.
Does this sound feasible? Any comments would be greatly appreciated!
Day 1: arrive late in Munich. Spend night in Munich
Day 2: Some sightseeing in Munich in the morning, then drive to Linderfhof castle. Spend night in Fussen.
Day 3: Visit Hohenschwangau and Neuschwanstein castles. Drive to Salzburg. Spend night in Salzburg.
Day 4: Do the Mozart/sound of music sights for daughter who is an avid musician. Drive to Cesky Krumlov. Spend night in Cesky Krumlov.
Day 5: Cesky Krumlov.
Day 6: Drive to Prague. Do Prague sight-seeing. Spend night in Prague.
Day 7: Prague sightseeing. Drive to Berlin. Night in Berlin
Day 8: Berlin sightseeing. Evening flight to Rome.
Does this sound feasible? Any comments would be greatly appreciated!
Aug 11th, 2008, 11:01 PM
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>Does this sound feasible?
No. It sounds like one of the maddest trips I have ever heard of.
>Spend night in Salzburg.
Day 4: Do the Mozart/sound of music sights for daughter who is an avid musician.
Am I right in assuming that you are not interested in visiting Salzburg itself? Are kitschy film settings all you want to see?
And then it gets worse. Just half a day for Prague? Half a day for Berlin? What is it you want to see and remember, highways of Europe? Traffic jams on other continents?
No. It sounds like one of the maddest trips I have ever heard of.
>Spend night in Salzburg.
Day 4: Do the Mozart/sound of music sights for daughter who is an avid musician.
Am I right in assuming that you are not interested in visiting Salzburg itself? Are kitschy film settings all you want to see?
And then it gets worse. Just half a day for Prague? Half a day for Berlin? What is it you want to see and remember, highways of Europe? Traffic jams on other continents?
Aug 12th, 2008, 01:57 AM
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I cannot but agree with altamiro's analysis.
I do not envy the driver.
Don't underestimate the traffic over here - driving in Central Europe isn't like Australia. (I've just been so can compare.)
Weather conditions are likely to slow you down.
Daylight hours are short - by 4.30 to 5 p.m. it will be pitch dark.
Half a day for cities like Prague and Berlin isn't worth going there at all. You'll spend a lot more time in the car than actually seeing places. I hope you haven't booked the flight to Rome yet. If not, cut out Berlin entirely and fly from Prague to Rome. Add time to Salzburg and time to Prague.
I do not envy the driver.
Don't underestimate the traffic over here - driving in Central Europe isn't like Australia. (I've just been so can compare.)
Weather conditions are likely to slow you down.
Daylight hours are short - by 4.30 to 5 p.m. it will be pitch dark.
Half a day for cities like Prague and Berlin isn't worth going there at all. You'll spend a lot more time in the car than actually seeing places. I hope you haven't booked the flight to Rome yet. If not, cut out Berlin entirely and fly from Prague to Rome. Add time to Salzburg and time to Prague.
Aug 12th, 2008, 03:06 AM
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I know that after that long flight from Australia you want to cram in as much as you can. But Prague and Berlin are big cities and to drive all that way and have only a half day is a real waste of time and money. They are big cities and you'd barely have time to get oriented, let alone actually see or do anything.
Of course, there are people who like the driving more than actually being at the destination, so go for it if that's the case. Otherwise, I honestly think you need to cut back.
If your flight from Berlin is set and you can't or don't want to cancel it, then cut out at least two of the following: Fuessen, Salzburg, Prague, Cesky Krumlov.
Of course, there are people who like the driving more than actually being at the destination, so go for it if that's the case. Otherwise, I honestly think you need to cut back.
If your flight from Berlin is set and you can't or don't want to cancel it, then cut out at least two of the following: Fuessen, Salzburg, Prague, Cesky Krumlov.
Aug 12th, 2008, 02:06 PM
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it won't work, period.
We a couple of years ago we travelled Munich to Fussen to Salzburg, to Cesky Krumlv to Prague to Dresden to Berlin in 12 days ... I couldn't imaging possibly doing it faster, and next time would plan on much less travelling.
Here's parts of a post I placed earlier:
Like many from the western US, Canada, and Australia, to me driving 600 miles a day is not unusual and pretty much the norm for the "driving days" of vacations. Recognizing Europe is more compact, I conservatively planned 300 - 400 miles per day the first time I planned a trip to Europe. Luckily, we didn't reserve ahead ... we were able to change our itinerary on the fly once we got there ... ended up seeing much less, driving at the max. 100 - 200 miles on a hard day, but seeing much more in depth.
In the US you can easily travel many hundreds of miles without the scenery changing too dramatically, and can easily travel hours between any town worth stopping for to lunch. In Europe every corner you come around will have lots of interest and hundreds of years of history.
2. Wanting to see it all
When we planned our first trip to Europe we realized that even getting to Europe was lucky ... most from the US never get a chance at any trip to EU, and we figured that if we were lucky we'd get there only 3 or 4 times in our life. So we wanted to "see-it-all" in a "whirlwind". Within a day after arriving on our first trip we realized we couldn't .. by trying to do so we'd in fact see nothing.
So we ended up concentrating on a small slice of germany, Austria, and Czech. And although it was a small slice to us, that area was considered huge by veteran travellers and people from EU.
Having now been to EU twice, planning a third time, and hoping for maybe a 4th and 5th times in our lives if we're lucky, we've changed our intentions.
We're just concentrating on a few areas more in-depth, realizing that its impossible to see all of EU and all of the world... just pick the spots most atrtractive to your interests and get to know them well. We've even begun to learn a language in depth, and some words, phrases, sentences in a couple of others. We've ended up getting to know people. Getting a feel for the places we've been to.
3. Eye candy
Travelling in the western US is mostly about seeing eye candy - those sweet sights of nature and the few remarkable cities.
And when we go to EU we look for lots of that eye candy too - the famous sights, buildings, scenery. But now we look for much richer and more sustaining things. We take time to get a feel for the culture, to meet people, to get to know a few places in depth. That way, by seeing less, you actually "see" (experience and learn) far more.
It's heartbreakingly painful to winnow things you'd really like to see down to just a few things. But it is worth it to do so
P.S.:
There is a ring autobahn around Munich ... from the airport you follow it about 1/3 of the way around Munich to where the autobahn takes off towards the west and Fussen. Just those few miles can take forever ... it took us about 2 hours to get to the road to Fussen. My wife insists that we entirely circled Munich. I insist that we didn't, it just took that long to get 1/3 way around. To this day we haven't agreed on that, and have accepted it as one of those things we've agreed to disagree (and laufgh) about. But it does serve as a warning .. driving around Europe is not fast.
We a couple of years ago we travelled Munich to Fussen to Salzburg, to Cesky Krumlv to Prague to Dresden to Berlin in 12 days ... I couldn't imaging possibly doing it faster, and next time would plan on much less travelling.
Here's parts of a post I placed earlier:
Like many from the western US, Canada, and Australia, to me driving 600 miles a day is not unusual and pretty much the norm for the "driving days" of vacations. Recognizing Europe is more compact, I conservatively planned 300 - 400 miles per day the first time I planned a trip to Europe. Luckily, we didn't reserve ahead ... we were able to change our itinerary on the fly once we got there ... ended up seeing much less, driving at the max. 100 - 200 miles on a hard day, but seeing much more in depth.
In the US you can easily travel many hundreds of miles without the scenery changing too dramatically, and can easily travel hours between any town worth stopping for to lunch. In Europe every corner you come around will have lots of interest and hundreds of years of history.
2. Wanting to see it all
When we planned our first trip to Europe we realized that even getting to Europe was lucky ... most from the US never get a chance at any trip to EU, and we figured that if we were lucky we'd get there only 3 or 4 times in our life. So we wanted to "see-it-all" in a "whirlwind". Within a day after arriving on our first trip we realized we couldn't .. by trying to do so we'd in fact see nothing.
So we ended up concentrating on a small slice of germany, Austria, and Czech. And although it was a small slice to us, that area was considered huge by veteran travellers and people from EU.
Having now been to EU twice, planning a third time, and hoping for maybe a 4th and 5th times in our lives if we're lucky, we've changed our intentions.
We're just concentrating on a few areas more in-depth, realizing that its impossible to see all of EU and all of the world... just pick the spots most atrtractive to your interests and get to know them well. We've even begun to learn a language in depth, and some words, phrases, sentences in a couple of others. We've ended up getting to know people. Getting a feel for the places we've been to.
3. Eye candy
Travelling in the western US is mostly about seeing eye candy - those sweet sights of nature and the few remarkable cities.
And when we go to EU we look for lots of that eye candy too - the famous sights, buildings, scenery. But now we look for much richer and more sustaining things. We take time to get a feel for the culture, to meet people, to get to know a few places in depth. That way, by seeing less, you actually "see" (experience and learn) far more.
It's heartbreakingly painful to winnow things you'd really like to see down to just a few things. But it is worth it to do so
P.S.:
There is a ring autobahn around Munich ... from the airport you follow it about 1/3 of the way around Munich to where the autobahn takes off towards the west and Fussen. Just those few miles can take forever ... it took us about 2 hours to get to the road to Fussen. My wife insists that we entirely circled Munich. I insist that we didn't, it just took that long to get 1/3 way around. To this day we haven't agreed on that, and have accepted it as one of those things we've agreed to disagree (and laufgh) about. But it does serve as a warning .. driving around Europe is not fast.
Aug 12th, 2008, 02:53 PM
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I agree with the others - take out some destinations and spend more time in the places to do visit.
We spent 2 weeks in Germany a couple years ago - my first trip to Europe and I had been dreaming of going ever since I learned that castles were real things, not just made up for fairytales - LOL. When we first booked our train tickets, I was overwhelmed with all the places we could go and just wanted to see anything and everything.
We reeled ourselves in and chose Munich, Nuremberg, and Fuessen, which worked out just right - we had multiple nights in each location, were able to take day trips from these places, and didn't spend too much of our trip moving from place to place. It was a reasonably relaxed pace, but we still saw a lot of stuff.
We spent 2 weeks in Germany a couple years ago - my first trip to Europe and I had been dreaming of going ever since I learned that castles were real things, not just made up for fairytales - LOL. When we first booked our train tickets, I was overwhelmed with all the places we could go and just wanted to see anything and everything.
We reeled ourselves in and chose Munich, Nuremberg, and Fuessen, which worked out just right - we had multiple nights in each location, were able to take day trips from these places, and didn't spend too much of our trip moving from place to place. It was a reasonably relaxed pace, but we still saw a lot of stuff.
Aug 12th, 2008, 05:14 PM
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Munich and Salzburg are worthy of two days minimum, not including day trips like Fuessen/King's Castles or Berchtesgaden. If you have to be in Berlin to catch the flight to Rome, I would think about cutting out the Czech Republic and saving it for another trip. It may be easier to go straight to Salzburg upon arrival, then work your way back to Munich, as the quickest train routes to Berlin probably go through Munich anyway.
One thing's for sure, your daughter (and you, too) will love Salzburg with or without the Sound of Music tour.
I just got back from this area and did the Neuschwanstein Castle day trip thing from Munich. Left Munich around 9 am on a Saturday via train (buy Bavaria ticket if you do this), finally got the Hohenschwangau (the village where the two castles are) about 2.5 hours later. The line to buy tickets for the tours was not nearly as long as I expected and this was a perfect Saturday weather-wise. I was done with the castles about three hours later (enjoyed the outsides much better than the inside, but probably my personal preference) and then finally got back to Munich around 6 pm. I was wishing I had saved this for the day I left Munich and stayed in Fuessen. I was dead tired from all the walking and traveling on buses and trains that night.
One thing's for sure, your daughter (and you, too) will love Salzburg with or without the Sound of Music tour.
I just got back from this area and did the Neuschwanstein Castle day trip thing from Munich. Left Munich around 9 am on a Saturday via train (buy Bavaria ticket if you do this), finally got the Hohenschwangau (the village where the two castles are) about 2.5 hours later. The line to buy tickets for the tours was not nearly as long as I expected and this was a perfect Saturday weather-wise. I was done with the castles about three hours later (enjoyed the outsides much better than the inside, but probably my personal preference) and then finally got back to Munich around 6 pm. I was wishing I had saved this for the day I left Munich and stayed in Fuessen. I was dead tired from all the walking and traveling on buses and trains that night.
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