More earthquakes in central Italy

Old Jan 18th, 2017, 09:08 AM
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More earthquakes in central Italy

Central Italy, especially Abruzzo and the interior zones of Le Marche, along with eastern Lazio and Umbria, have been hammered in the last few days by a winter storm, which left four feet of snow in some mountain regions. Last night, I heard on the news that 25% of Abruzzo was without electricity, and telephone service was also badly affected.

These are the zones that were devastated by earthquakes in August and October. Many people who couldn't leave the area because of jobs or other obligations, are living in temporary housing, basically in containers that have been subdivided into rooms. On isolated farms, other people who need to care for their livestock are living in campers. Some of the temporary barns erected on these farms had roof collapses because of the weight of the snow, and there were other roof collapses. Many villages were unreachable because of heavy snow drifts.

So what else could go wrong? This morning the area was hit by four fairly strong earthquakes, ranging from 5.1 to 5.7 on the Richter scale, over a period of four hours, with many smaller shocks in between. To all their other woes, there were now avalanches. It's almost impossible to assess the damage because of the lack of phone service and the difficulty of clearing the roads.

The advice in an earthquake is to go outdoors. How could one do that in the middle of a snowstorm, with over a meter of snow outside?

It's almost beyond belief.
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Old Jan 18th, 2017, 09:09 AM
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I thought I had tagged that for Italy, but it's not tagged. Sorry.
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Old Jan 18th, 2017, 09:22 AM
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Oh my, so far away from the Italy of tourism, Venice vs Florence, Rome 3 days or 5...So sad for these people. I hope they are getting some disaster relief...and hope you're okay bvlenci. You're on the coast, is that right?
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Old Jan 18th, 2017, 09:39 AM
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We're near the coast, and rather north of the epicenter. We didn't get a whole lot of snow, and it changed to rain during the night. I don't think the quakes did any damage here, either, although they evacuated the schools twice, just in case. I felt all four of them, but we're on the second floor (3rd for Americans).

So actually we're fine, although we do have a bit of concern for our summer home.
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Old Jan 18th, 2017, 09:50 AM
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Good to hear you're okay. It must be quite stressful for people who have already been living through these earthquakes over the last months.

I see on the news that the Metro in Rome was evacuated for safety reasons...That doesn't happen too often I bet.
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Old Jan 18th, 2017, 10:13 AM
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So sorry to hear this! The last thing that area needs-bad wether and another earthquake.
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Old Jan 18th, 2017, 10:26 AM
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It's still snowing heavily there, and it's expected to continue into tomorrow. It was already a record snowfall as of yesterday evening.

I'm watching the evening news right now. A man who lives in the affected area said that they're expecting a plague of locusts next.

The earthquakes, mostly small, have been almost continuous in the central Apennines since August. Every so often, I check the list of recent earthquakes on www.ingv.it and I've never seen a day where that area didn't have several, mostly small, each hour. They only register those over 2.0 on the Richter scale.
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Old Jan 18th, 2017, 10:33 AM
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Oh dear, that is terrible news. Those poor people. And here I was worried about the cold front supposed to hit tomorrow that might cause power outages. We should be so lucky.
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Old Jan 18th, 2017, 12:29 PM
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Sad to hear the bad news, bvlenci. My thoughts are with the people who are suffering the earthquakes and the heavy snow - such a double disaster.
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Old Jan 18th, 2017, 12:40 PM
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So sorry to hear this. I've been sitting here in my snug little house in Maine watching the snow fall all day and complaining about how long it took for the town snowplow to come through so we could get out and about. Thinking about what folks are having to contend with in your area certainly makes me feel pretty ashamed. Hoping for better days to come for all of you.
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Old Jan 18th, 2017, 01:24 PM
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I'm watching the evening news right now. A man who lives in the affected area said that they're expecting a plague of locusts next. >>

good he hadn't lost his sense of humour!

it sounds terrible, bvl, i can't imagine what it would be like to have to run outside into the freezing snow to escape an earthquake.

We can only hope that the earthquakes will wear off and the snow will stop soon.
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Old Jan 18th, 2017, 01:43 PM
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Kind of reminiscent of what happened in Japan a few years ago.
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Old Jan 19th, 2017, 03:25 AM
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There's a hotel in Abruzzo that is known to have been hit by a huge avalanche, with snow and earth detached from the mountain by the earthquake. There are 25 to 30 people, including guests and staff, unaccounted for, and feared dead. Rescuers on skis managed to arrive many hours later, but they could do little. They found two people alive, who just happened to be outside when the earthquake hit. One of them said his wife and two children were inside when the hotel was buried by the snow. Now heavy equipment, ambulances, and rescue dogs have arrived, but 24 hours have passed, and there are no sounds of life from inside.

The hotel was on the slopes of the Gran Sasso, a large mountain on the border between Abruzzo and Le Marche. This is an area with ski slopes and popular for other winter sports.

It's still snowing there, and expected to continue snowing all day today. The noon news today said that there are drifts of five metres (about 15 feet) in places. There have been other avalanches, but the extent of damage is still not known. In this sparsely populated area, it may take days to reach some isolated settlements.

We spend our summers somewhat north of here, and I know very well that it can take almost an hour in good weather to reach a point only five miles away as the crow flies. The roads up the mountains are a series of narrow switchbacks. There are poles along the roads marked in meters so that you can see where the road is when there's snow, and determine how deep it is. However, the poles, if I remember correctly, are only three meters high, so many of them may be buried by this snowfall, without historical precedent. If you miss the road, you could drive right over the edge of a cliff.
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Old Jan 19th, 2017, 03:29 AM
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Difficult situation. I pray that the people who are stuck will be rescued soon, otherwise it's hard for them to hold on in this freezing weather.
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Old Jan 19th, 2017, 05:33 AM
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Tragic.
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Old Jan 19th, 2017, 06:28 AM
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nothing we can do or say will make this less painful.
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Old Jan 19th, 2017, 07:07 AM
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This is so sad as I'm due to leave for Rome on the 31st January 2017 I can change my directions as I was just booking an airb&b in Montesilvano place of Pescara . Seeing I have 3months think I might take of from Rome down to Naples and Sicily do you think that is a better idea? As I know the weather is most unusual everywhere in the world thank you gentle
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Old Jan 19th, 2017, 07:16 AM
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Praying for the people of Italy.
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Old Jan 19th, 2017, 07:22 AM
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Pescara, which is in Abruzzo, is probably closer to the earthquake zone than Rome is. However, I don't think either has been affected in any serious way. The earthquakes were felt in both cities, but the damage has been largely confined to the mountains, and neither Rome nor Pescara is in the mountains.

If you're worried about snow, the forecast is for scirocco winds from North Africa by Sunday. This will warm things right up, but, unfortunately, it would increase the risk of avalanches.
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Old Jan 19th, 2017, 07:33 AM
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Thank you so much, being so far away in Perth west.australia which is summer ( rather mild for us this time of the year) is hard to get your head around what is happening in parts of Italy usually we are 35/40degrees but I'm not complaining
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