Looking for add on city
Jul 21st, 2014, 07:50 PM
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Looking for add on city
Were taking our toddler twins to Europe next year for a Mediterranean cruise and were initially planning on spending area days in rome and then a few days in paris before flying home. Now were contemplating foregoing paris in exchange for something a little more south, like Barcelona or Dubrovnik. Any recommendations on a must see city?
Jul 21st, 2014, 08:19 PM
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Definitely Barcelona over Dubrovnik which is so small that half a day is enough. You'd have to fly to Dubrovnik from your last port. Since Barcelona is on the Mediterranean it will be more accessible and it is a large city with lots to do plus a beach.
Where does your cruise begin and end?
Where does your cruise begin and end?
Jul 21st, 2014, 08:56 PM
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You do know that Greece and Turkey are not on the Mediterranean?
You'd have to fly to Barcelona as well. You could always see more of Italy but Barcelona would give you a completely different flavor of Europe than the places you're going.
Why do you want a more southern city?
Have you been to Paris? If I had to choose between Paris and Barcelona, I would go to Paris.
You'd have to fly to Barcelona as well. You could always see more of Italy but Barcelona would give you a completely different flavor of Europe than the places you're going.
Why do you want a more southern city?
Have you been to Paris? If I had to choose between Paris and Barcelona, I would go to Paris.
Jul 21st, 2014, 10:05 PM
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<i>You do know that Greece and Turkey are not on the Mediterranean?</i>
Unless they moved both countries recently, they still are.
As soon as you are fine with making an extra stop by plane after your cruise has ended in Rome, there is no difference in accessibility between Paris, Barcelona or Lisbon.
Given the mostly flat terrain and many pedestrian streets, I'd find navigating Barcelona with toddlers in tow somewhat easiest. Lisbon would make a nice contrast, but is very hilly.
Unless they moved both countries recently, they still are.
As soon as you are fine with making an extra stop by plane after your cruise has ended in Rome, there is no difference in accessibility between Paris, Barcelona or Lisbon.
Given the mostly flat terrain and many pedestrian streets, I'd find navigating Barcelona with toddlers in tow somewhat easiest. Lisbon would make a nice contrast, but is very hilly.
Jul 22nd, 2014, 03:10 AM
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With two(!) toddlers in tow I would not plan any big city trip, no matter where. How much sightseeing do you expect to be able to do dragging the littlies around, and what experiences are they supposed to gain, except hassle and discomfort? A seaside town with beach, a mountain or lakeside resort will probably be a more pleasant and suitable destination for a family with young children.
And last time I looked the Aegean Sea was indeed still part of the Mediterranean.
And last time I looked the Aegean Sea was indeed still part of the Mediterranean.
Jul 22nd, 2014, 03:20 AM
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OK - the Aegean is part of the larger Med but when I think of a Med cruise I imagine Rome, Marseilles, Barcelona, etc. If I were taking a cruise of Greece & Turkey I would say that, not a Med cruise. When I went to Turkey I didn't describe it as going to the Med.
but it will make me smile all day
Jul 22nd, 2014, 03:46 AM
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Glad I can make you smile, bilbo. As I explained above, I prefer to more closely identify destinations. Why not just call it a European cruise. Perhaps every question here should just be about Europe and not any specific country or city/town.
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Jul 22nd, 2014, 05:21 AM
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Sorry, adrienne, I doubt that anyone wanted to annoy you.
But saying that Greece and Turkey are not on the Med is not more precise but simply wrong. Or that one would only call the Western Med "the Med".
If you wished to describe the course of OP's ship from Rome to ports in Greece and Turkey more precisely you'd say they will be cruising the Eastern Mediterranean. As only half of Greece and parts of Turkey are on the Aegean Sea.
But saying that Greece and Turkey are not on the Med is not more precise but simply wrong. Or that one would only call the Western Med "the Med".
If you wished to describe the course of OP's ship from Rome to ports in Greece and Turkey more precisely you'd say they will be cruising the Eastern Mediterranean. As only half of Greece and parts of Turkey are on the Aegean Sea.
Jul 22nd, 2014, 06:49 AM
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Just to be clear the Med is the whole bit within the land between Europe and North Africa excluding the Black Sea and guess up to the Pillars of Hercules (if still there). Within the Med are a whole bunch of minor seas including the Aegean.
adrienne, chin up.
adrienne, chin up.
Jul 22nd, 2014, 07:29 AM
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http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/medsea.gif
The International Hydrographic Organization defines the limits of the Mediterranean Sea as follows:
Stretching from the Strait of Gibraltar in the West to the entrances to the Dardanelles and the Suez Canal in the East, the Mediterranean Sea is bounded by the coasts of Europe, Africa and Asia, and is divided into two deep basins:
Western Basin:
On the west: A line joining the extremities of Cape Trafalgar (Spain) and Cape Spartel (Africa).
On the northeast: The West Coast of Italy. In the Strait of Messina a line joining the North extreme of Cape Paci (15°42'E) with Cape Peloro, the East extreme of the Island of Sicily. The North Coast of Sicily.
On the east: A line joining Cape Lilibeo the Western point of Sicily (37°47′N 12°22′E), through the Adventure Bank to Cape Bon (Tunisia).
Eastern Basin:
On the west: The Northeastern and Eastern limits of the Western Basin.
On the northeast: A line joining Kum Kale (26°11'E) and Cape Helles, the Western entrance to the Dardanelles.
On the southeast: The entrance to the Suez Canal.
On the east: The coasts of Syria, Israel, Lebanon, and Gaza Strip.
According to the International Hydrographic Organization (IHO), the Mediterranean Sea is subdivided into a number of smaller waterbodies, each with their own designation (from west to east):
the Strait of Gibraltar;
the Alboran Sea, between Spain and Morocco;
the Balearic Sea, between mainland Spain and its Balearic Islands;
the Ligurian Sea between Corsica and Liguria (Italy);
the Tyrrhenian Sea enclosed by Sardinia, Italian peninsula and Sicily;
the Ionian Sea between Italy, Albania and Greece;
the Adriatic Sea between Italy, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro and Albania;
the Aegean Sea between Greece and Turkey.
Source: http://www.iho-ohi.net/iho_pubs/stan...3/S23_1953.pdf
The International Hydrographic Organization defines the limits of the Mediterranean Sea as follows:
Stretching from the Strait of Gibraltar in the West to the entrances to the Dardanelles and the Suez Canal in the East, the Mediterranean Sea is bounded by the coasts of Europe, Africa and Asia, and is divided into two deep basins:
Western Basin:
On the west: A line joining the extremities of Cape Trafalgar (Spain) and Cape Spartel (Africa).
On the northeast: The West Coast of Italy. In the Strait of Messina a line joining the North extreme of Cape Paci (15°42'E) with Cape Peloro, the East extreme of the Island of Sicily. The North Coast of Sicily.
On the east: A line joining Cape Lilibeo the Western point of Sicily (37°47′N 12°22′E), through the Adventure Bank to Cape Bon (Tunisia).
Eastern Basin:
On the west: The Northeastern and Eastern limits of the Western Basin.
On the northeast: A line joining Kum Kale (26°11'E) and Cape Helles, the Western entrance to the Dardanelles.
On the southeast: The entrance to the Suez Canal.
On the east: The coasts of Syria, Israel, Lebanon, and Gaza Strip.
According to the International Hydrographic Organization (IHO), the Mediterranean Sea is subdivided into a number of smaller waterbodies, each with their own designation (from west to east):
the Strait of Gibraltar;
the Alboran Sea, between Spain and Morocco;
the Balearic Sea, between mainland Spain and its Balearic Islands;
the Ligurian Sea between Corsica and Liguria (Italy);
the Tyrrhenian Sea enclosed by Sardinia, Italian peninsula and Sicily;
the Ionian Sea between Italy, Albania and Greece;
the Adriatic Sea between Italy, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro and Albania;
the Aegean Sea between Greece and Turkey.
Source: http://www.iho-ohi.net/iho_pubs/stan...3/S23_1953.pdf
Jul 22nd, 2014, 07:46 AM
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So argument over Greece and Trukey being in the Mediterranean aside (ps TECHNICALLY it is regardless of how it "feels")...
We've been all over Italy, Germany, Switzerland, England, Ireland, Scotland, Czech Republic, as well as Paris and Amsterdam, hence why I was thinking somewhere a little more southern would be better.
We've been all over Italy, Germany, Switzerland, England, Ireland, Scotland, Czech Republic, as well as Paris and Amsterdam, hence why I was thinking somewhere a little more southern would be better.
Jul 22nd, 2014, 09:02 AM
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I agree with sparkchaser that Malta might be an excellent choice. Relaxed and a short flight from Rome on Alitalia. It's quite unique and you could rent a house or stay at a resort. It's also very inexpensive relative to other places you might choose.
