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Old Mar 20th, 2007, 07:08 AM
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London on a Budget (Flight/Hotel)

I want to go to London (first trip overseas) in either late September or early October of this year. A friend of mine booked an Orbitz package last November for flight and hotel stay in February from Seattle for $1000 (for 2 people). I am trying to find something similar for me and my husband. We will be traveling from either Newark airport or JFK, whichever would get us a better deal. I haven't been able to find anything close to what my friend booked. The best I am finding is for $800+ per person for hotel and flight. I guess I would prefer to book my flight and hotel together, since I'm trying to get the best price possible. For flight and hotel for 6 nights, I do not want to spend more than $1200 total for two people. I know this can be done, since my friend was able to do it. Are flights and hotels just a lot more expensive in Sept/Oct than in Feb? My friend booked in November and went in Feb. Any advice you can give would be most helpful. Thanks!!
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Old Mar 20th, 2007, 07:13 AM
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You want to spend $1,200 for two people with roundtrip trip tickets and 6 nights of hotel in London? In September/October? You have a better chance winning the lottery, which can then pay for your trip.

I'm sorry, but your expectation is totally unrealistic.
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Old Mar 20th, 2007, 07:15 AM
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Yes, flights are normally considerably more expensive in September/October than in February, and hotels are likely to be higher, too. It's becoming an increasingly popular time of the year. Frankly, at your price point, I'm a little skeptical.

Also if your budget is that tight, I'd recommend doing a major analysis of all costs associated with a London holiday. At the moment it's one of the most expensive places in the world for US dollar-spending folks.
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Old Mar 20th, 2007, 07:24 AM
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Are you sure... $1000 was the total for BOTH people (i.e., 2 RT plane tickets and a hotel room)??

That seems to good to be true. I pay more than that for my Seattle/London tickets every trip. Just air, one person.
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Let's do some calculations.

US and UK taxes on the air tickets is about $150/person, so that's $300 gone, with $900 left.

Best deal in finding a hotel in London is about $80/night on Priceline, or about $100 total. Which is only about 50GBP. If you book locally, even the most basic bed&breakfast in London will cost you at least that much for two people. So, it'd be hard for a package company to offer you anything lower than that.

6 nights of hotel will leave $300 left. I wonder what airline is so desperate to offer travel package companies 2 roundtrip tickets to London for $150 each?
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Old Mar 20th, 2007, 07:34 AM
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Are you sure... $1000 was the total for BOTH people (i.e., 2 RT plane tickets and a hotel room)??


Yes I am absolutely positive. My friend got a coupon for $100 off Orbitz, but still $1100 is amazing for 2 people roundtrip from Seattle.


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Europebound:

WHO have you contacted?

have you included British Airways Holidays.

I agree with the above posters about prices and times of year etc. but before I gave up I would check out airline company offers just to be sure "it can't be done."
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Old Mar 20th, 2007, 07:35 AM
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I have to agree. I'm really cheap and find all kinds of deals, but $500 per person is unbelievable. Even $1,000 per person would be pushing it, but I guess possible.

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Old Mar 20th, 2007, 07:38 AM
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My friends fly on United and stayed at the Garden View Hotel, which is no luxury, but better than a hostel.
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Old Mar 20th, 2007, 07:52 AM
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So far I have checked package deals on: Go Today, Virgin Vacations, Expedia, Orbitz and Priceline. They were all around $800 per person and up for hotel & flight.
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europebound: I believe you about the friends doing it for $1100. But there is a <b>HUGE</b> difference between Feb and Sept.

Sept is pretty much high season. Feb is the dregs of low season. I just flew rountd trip last month (no package) from SFO to London for $411 including taxes. But you could easily have to pay twice that in Sept. Oct would be a bit better airfare-wise.

There are winter packages all the time that seem too cheap to be true - but they are. Theatre Breaks where you'd swear the hotel is free after deducting airfare and theatre tix. But you will not find anything that cheap in the Fall.
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Old Mar 20th, 2007, 04:33 PM
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janisj,
what do you think would be the most affordable timeframe? late october, november?
where can i find these theatre/winter packages that you mentioned?
thanks for your message.
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First, September is not November (Nov and Jan/Feb are probably the lowest rates).

second, air fares have been going up - not down.

so wouldn't expect to get anywhere the deal someone did LAST YEAR IN OFF SEASON, this year in high season.
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Also keep in mind that the best deals are often last minute. Check sites like go-today.com or site59.com for those cheap packages.

Another cheap travel opportunities come when airlines start new routes. Like Continental's Newark-Cologne was ~$300 roundtrip for many days this winter.
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Even if you could find that really cheap price, don't underestimate the cost of BEING in London. I just returned...the prices for food, transportation and everything else are just about double...when the exchange rate is factored in....from the US. I am including food bought in grocery stores. It is worth it to me, but you don't want to underestimate what you will spend there. the flight is cheap in comparision.
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Old Mar 21st, 2007, 12:21 PM
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Just to chime in, there is a <b>huge</b> difference between visiting London in Feb vs Sept/Oct.

For Feb, it's cold, damp and dark. You get 8 hours of daylight. Sun sets before 5pm

For Sept, it'll be warmer and sunny. You'll get 12+ hours of daylight. Sun sets after 7pm.

You get what you paid for. If cost is a major issue, then go in Jan/Feb, though I would <b>not</b> recommend that to a first time visitor to London.
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Are prices still very high in mid October? How is late October and early November in London? I assume it's more affordable than September, but is it also &quot;cold, damp, and dark?&quot;
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Old Mar 22nd, 2007, 07:49 AM
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Yes, prices are still high in mid-Oct. The only &quot;low&quot; season in London is either late Nov-early Dec (but before the X'mas shopping starts), or Jan/Feb.
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Old Mar 22nd, 2007, 07:53 AM
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I guess it is a bit disconcerting that it would need to be explained the HUMONGOUS difference between traveling to London in Feb vs. Sept? WOW! BTW, it is a myth that buying flight+hotel together guarantees the best pricing. I've been to Europe 40+ times; only once that was the case.

try go-today.com, evacations.com; again, Jan-Feb travel.
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I wouldn't discount going in February--we've been to London three times in February and had a great time--we've also been lucky and had very good weather and minimal rain. The days are shorter but hotels and airfare are significantly cheaper and the museums etc. are less crowded.
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