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Old May 3rd, 2017, 02:23 PM
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Italy thru new eyes / Chasing the sun in March

I decided to go to Italy for my spring trip for three reasons: first, well it’s Italy; I really didn’t need any other reasons. But two, I found a great fare from my local airport to Milan, and three, I wanted to continue my ‘research’ on Italy in the ‘off‘ season. I have been going to Europe every summer for about 15 years, always in the month of July, but some day I’ll be done with work and will be able to travel whenever I please, so am always looking for places where it will be ‘nice’ when it’s not ‘nice’ where I live (the US northeast).

When I told my friend Crista about the trip she decided to come with me. She’s never been to Italy and only once to visit a friend in Scotland so a real ‘newbie’. Our original plan was going to be Venice, Florence and Lake Como, but by mid week the forecast for Milan/Lake Como was rain so we made a last minute switch to Rome for a couple of days. Thus we ended up doing the itinerary that is so often posted on travel forums from newbies and mostly shot down by those of us ‘in the know’: 8 days Venice, Florence, Rome, Milan.

Crista only had time for 8 days but I had an additional 5 days for day trips from Milan. I did Pavia, Genoa, Lake Como, and Lake Lugano. The last day I stayed in Milan.
I’m also posting this Trip report on my blog which includes photos. I recently switched my photos to a new site and they offer a blog function so I’m trying it out. Am not a ‘blogger’ so bear with me if it’s not formatted quite right (for example I had to split it into four and part four came first. Urrrr.)
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Part 1: <b>The “Classic” One Week in Italy: Venice, Florence and Rome</b>

We did all the things that many people (myself included) advise against. We flew in and out of Milan even thought that wasn't our destination. We tried to 'see' three major Italian cities in a week and took trains from Milan to Venice, Venice to Florence, Florence to Rome and Rome to Milan. Phew. Sounds like we'd spend all our time in trains and the whole thing would be very rushed. Well, I'm here to say it actually wasn't and Crista said she never felt rushed and loved it. So I think I'll be revising the advice I give people from now on.

It was a fast pace, no doubt about that. Crista walks a lot faster than most people, and doesn’t ‘require’ a lot of time to see things. For many people this wouldn’t be a very satisfying way to travel. She did a fair amount of “OK, what next?” and I’d say, “THIS IS what’s next – we’re here, just look around you”. Had to explain what a ‘passeggiata’ was and why doing that is fun. But everyone is different and goes at a different pace. This was my 13th trip to Italy, I’d been to Venice 5 times, and Rome 7 times (Florence only once before) so I was really just enjoying seeing things through her eyes and playing tour guide. Crista is a very smart, highly educated woman, but she had a pretty terrible grasp on geography and history and did zero research. I do such extensive research before trips (including reading novels set where I’m going, watching movies that took place there, etc.) that my husband says it’s almost ‘too much’. But my advice to new travelers will continue to be to at least read a good general guidebook before you go anywhere so you know what you’re seeing. And listen to us experience travelers when we tell you to stamp your train ticket before you get on!

<b>Arrival Day - Saturday, March 18</b> [Sun and clouds, 60s] - We arrived only 20 minutes late into Milano Linate. Crista’s bag, which AerLigus made her gate check in Dublin, saying it was too large, arrived quickly. (BTW – last time I flew AerLingus to Italy they made me gate check my bag as they said I had ‘two’ pieces – this time they said nothing about my bag plus ‘personal item’ and it was the exact same two pieces - which goes to show it’s a crap shoot what is and is not OK). Anyway, her bag came through right away and we were outside, having bought our bus tickets to Milano Centrale, just before noon.

I asked a man standing by the sign if the bus was the right one (it looked different) and he pointed and said yes. But we almost got on it and it was going to Slovenia!!! Turns out he was pointing to the space in front of that bus where the right one was about to arrive – fortunately he saw us and told us. We got to Centrale just about 12:45 so good thing I booked the 13:40 train and not the 12:40 as we would have just missed it. We had time to get a Panini and coffee and got to Venice just after four.

I had stayed at the <b>Palazzo Odoni</b> just last July – loved the hotel and didn’t even consider looking for anyplace else. It’s in the Santa Croce district, about 10 minute walk from the train station or Piazzele Roma, on a quiet canal, in what is – for Venice – an ‘un-touristy’ area. So what for most first timers – finding the hotel you booked – can be difficult when you are tired and jet-lagged, was for Crista just a short stroll since I knew where I was going. We were checked in and ready to head out by 5 for what we thought would be a short stroll to show her a few canals and find dinner.

We ended up walking all the way to Piazza San Marco (and back). The adrenaline gets going and everything is so new and exciting. We were almost back to the hotel before we found a place we wanted to eat. I think there were actually mostly locals in there, and it was just a two-minute walk from the hotel. The Palazzo Odoni – is a 16th century palazzo that's been in the same family for generations, comes complete with antique furnishings, a very high quality breakfast (and a golden retriever).
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Your transition to zenfolio is spectacular.
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Isabel,

Here I am closing up the suitcase to fly to Amsterdam tomorrow, and Im loving the start of another great TR from you! Ill look forward to reading more soon.

Hi Bob!

Ciao, Dayle
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Isabel, your pictures are absolutely stunning. Looks like a lovely trip!
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Thanks guys.

<b>Can you “see” Venice in one full day? Yes you can.</b>


<b>Sunday, March 19, 2017</b> [Sun and clouds, 60s] Great hotel breakfast – huge, delicious croissants, various meats and cheeses, fresh fruits (melon, pineapple, kiwi, strawberries, oranges, bananas), yogurts, breads, and of course cappuccino. After pigging out on that we walked to the train station and got a vapparetto day pass (€20 each) and took our first ride down the grand canal to San Marco with me pointing out most of the most important palazzos (at least the ones I could remember the names of). It was bright but overcast – no blue sky and the colors on the palazzos seemed really muted compared to summer. Crista was still duly impressed (though I don’t think as much as I was my first time on the Grand Canal).

Passing under the Rialto Bridge I noticed that it's renovation was completed, the scaffolding of recent years gone, all very clean and white. We considered getting off to explore the market but decided it made more sense to get to Piazza San Marco and the Doges Palace before it got crowded and visit the Rialto market later.

The stone Rialto Bridge was the first permanent bridge across the Grand Canal. The central path is full of shops – mask, glass, bead and souvenir, as are the calle leading to the bridge from both directions. The fondamenta on both sides of the grand canal are filled with restaurants and hotels. The Rialto Market is the city's main source of fruits, vegetables and fish. The Rialto Bridge and surrounding area are the second most crowded in Venice, and while not quite as bad in March as in July, it was still pretty bad. I think cruising under it in a vaparetto is a much more enjoyable way to experience it than walking across it, but he view from the bridge is the quintessential Grand Canal View (if you can get close enough to the edge to see it).

We got to San Marco about 9:45 (the ride takes just about 45 minutes).

<b>Piazza San Marco</b> is definitely the 'center' of Venice, one of the most famous squares in the world, much larger than any other in Venice, and the only one to be called a 'Piazza" - all others are 'campos' or 'piazzettas'. At one end sits Basilica San Marco, one of the most famous buildings in the world. <b>Piazzetta San Marco</b> – is the smaller square between Piazza San Marco and the lagoon, with the Doges Palace along one side. Two granite (Egyptian) columns topped by Venetian-Byzantine capitals stand at the entrance to the piazzetta. One supports the famous statue of the winged lion of St Mark, the symbol of Venice The other column bears a statue of St. Theodore and his dragon. I believe there was a third column that fell off the boat as it was being delivered and still sits at the bottom of the Grand Canal.

<The Doge's Palace</b> is a Gothic Renaissance building begun in 1173 which integrated walls and towers of an AD 810 castle, beautifully carved in pink and white marble. Architecturally, the Palazzo Ducale is a unique mixture: the style of its exterior, with geometrically patterned stonework and continuous tracery walls, can be called Islamicized Gothic, whereas the courtyards and much of the interior are based on Classical forms. It is one of the finest secular building of its era in Europe, and the central building of Venice.

The line for the Doges Palace was about 10 minutes long.

Inside is a beautiful arcaded courtyard and finely sculpted grand stairway. Once the private home of the Doges (Venetian ruler elected for life), it is today a museum filled with art treasures, including Tintoretto’s “Paradise”, one of the largest paintings in the world, in the huge “Sala del Consiglio” where the city parliament met. Room after room of incredible wall and ceiling paintings and carved wood. We spent about 2 hours there and neither of us felt rushed or that we wanted more time. I do have one friend who said she spent 5 hours but you’d have to examine every single thing to do that. Another friend went on a (high end private) tour and said they were in there less than an hour. So I guess we were going at ‘average’ speed.

The best part was the prisons and walking through the bridge of sighs. The prisons were both more extensive and larger (and nicer) than I expected.

I’m glad I finally saw it, but I’m also glad I didn’t have to wait 2 or more hours in line in order to do it. And I don’t think it was a ‘highlight’ of Venice
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I find Pavia quite a beautiful & cheerful small city, with lovely food and sweets. Hope you enjoyed your time there.
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Yes Pavia was great, I loved it.



At that point, now about 12:30, the line for the <b>Loggia Museum in San Marco</b> was about 10 minutes long. Nice views of the Piazza and the Piazzetta. The museum essentially consists of the loggia (with the fabulous views) and close ups of the horses (both the ones outside and the originals inside) and of the mosaics of the church.

Coming down from the loggia you entered the <b>Basilica San Marco</b> itself, which was illuminated for the mass. We were allowed to walk around the sides, just roped off from where the parishioners were sitting. I think it would be much less impressive to tour the Basilica when it’s not illuminated (which is most of the time). It was a Sunday and there was a mass going on, the incense and the singing really added to the experience. So on my fifth trip to Venice I finally did what most people do on their first trip. Actually on my very first trip, which was 17 years ago, we did go inside the Basilica but it was not illuminated and very dark.

Then we headed back behind the <b>Bridge of Sighs</b> (the Castelo district) as I was looking for an old church with nice cloisters (St Apolonia). Took forever to find it despite it being literally behind the Bridge of Sighs. I had been there, I had a paper map, and we had the phone map and we asked two different people and it still took half an hour. That’s the fun of Venice. When we did find it, it was closed. Oh well, had a nice lunch with our ‘intro to Venice’ Bellini’s.

After exploring around San Marco we took the vaparetto as far as S. Toma and walked to the <b>Ca’Rezzonico</b> (included on the Museum Pass with the Doges Palace – along with ten others which we didn’t have time for). Ca’Rezzonoco is an impressive palazzo filled with three floors of 17th and 18th century Venetian art. But we got over dosed on it after an hour or so. (The friend that spent 5 hours in the Doges Palace spent 3 hours here). Some nice views from the upper floors. Then we walked the rest of the way back to the hotel, got lost of course, but isn’t that the charm of Venice.

After an hour or so we decided we needed to make use of the remaining daylight and vaparetto pass so took another ride down the Grand Canal. This time we got front row seats! Just as we were leaving the train station stop a couple of boat ambulances whizzed in and took someone from the stop in front of us. Interesting to think about water ambulances. Second time we had an ambulance incidence on this trip. (first one was on the plane).

It was cool but sunny as we started but as we approached San Marco the fog literally rolled in. You could see (and feel) it rolling in. It was quite interesting. But would I choose the Grand Canal with front row seats, cold and fog – or crammed in like a sardine but with bright sun shinning on all those palazzos? I think I pick the sun.

Anyway, great views, but it was pretty cold. So we ended up eating dinner just past Piazza San Marco. A guy standing outside a restaurant as we paused to look at the menu started talking – in flawless English. He was ‘Venecian-American’ – from NY. Said his hospital on 18th street was now condos. I said the one I was born in was also condos. I had almost the same conversation (minus the hospital part) with a guy we dubbed “Mr Astoria” in Chania, Crete last summer. Apparently middle-aged men who have lived for most of their lives in the US are moving back to the homeland and working in the tourist trade. But he was nice and we were cold so we went in, despite my telling Crista that the restaurants so close to San Marco were touristy rip-offs and not that good. The food was OK and they gave us free prosecos ‘since we were from NY’. Sure.

After dinner it was cold and most of the stores were closed so we took the vaparetto back. It was cold and foggy but that made for really interesting light.

So – that’s what you can accomplish (and still have fun) if you move fairly quickly and you have someone with you to show you where to go (or have done your research). We did three and a half rides on the Grand Canal, 4 major sites (Doges Plalace, Basicila San Marco interior, Loggia Museum, and Museum Ca’Rezzencio), walked all the way from the train station end to Piazza San Marco and back, and had sit-down dinners and lunch. Did a bit of tourist shopping. And did not feel at all rushed. The whole of Venice is a UNESCO World Heritage Site so just wandering along the back canals and riding the vaparetto down the Grand Canal is really enough to make a trip to Venice worthwhile, and to know that you have seen it. Adding a couple of museums and the Basilica and the Doges Palace were just icing on the cake.
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>>>Sounds like we'd spend all our time in trains and the whole thing would be very rushed. Well, I'm here to say it actually wasn't and Crista said she never felt rushed and loved it. So I think I'll be revising the advice I give people from now on.<<<

I think it makes a big difference that you are an experienced Italy traveler and booked hotels you had already stayed in. She might not have felt that way as a first timer on her own having to figure everything out.

>>Am not a ‘blogger’ so bear with me if it’s not formatted quite right (for example I had to split it into four and part four came first.<<

I don't think it's you. I find many blogs tend to be out of order.
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kybourbon - oh I definitely think it was easier for us since I knew my way around and how things worked. I do think though that if someone does enough research (and asks us fodorites) they can be prepared and have a much better trip than the people who don't research. And thanks for words of encouragement about the blog. Drove me crazy that I couldn't get the posts in a logical order.


<b>Monday, March 20, 2017</b> [Sun and clouds, 60s] On our other full day we spent the morning going to the Rialto market (bit of a disappointment, it wasn’t a ‘fish’ day so just produce) and then did a half day trip to Vicenza – partly to see a smaller town but mostly because Crista wanted to go to Jazzercise. She’s an instructor and it’s a ‘thing’ for jazzercise instructors to visit classes when traveling to foreign countries. She did it in Scotland last year. So she had made arrangements with Lucca of the Vicenza studio.

I had been in <b>Vicenza</b> as a day trip quite a few years ago and remembered it as very, very quiet, pretty enough but not as interesting as other towns in the area such as Verona and Padua (and Mantua, Ferrera, Treviso). And it was the same this time. We were there on a Monday and lots of things were closed. We did a walking tour of the palazzos that the TI office gave out, and had some really good gelato but 3-4 hours was plenty. Crista went to her Jazzersize class and I went back to Venice.

Back in Venice I walked from the train to Rialto (got lost a few times, but an area I had not explored – much more residential. Once large campo was full of locals having aperitifs or coffee and kids playing soccer, roller skating, dogs playing. Then to Piazza San Marco. Got a small pannini for dinner, ate while walking. Don’t do that in Piazza San Marco, a sea gull literally nipped at the food in my hand! The main ‘street’ between the Rialto and San Marco is like a mall with chain stores, including Disney, Benneton, Prada, etc. Managed to get back to the hotel from San Marco without getting lost – first time I did that! It took just over half an hour and about 2500 steps/1 mile (according to fitbit). But I was walking fast, not strolling.

We checked the weather forecast for later in the week and it was for rain all three days we planned to spend in Lake Como - So – we decided to go to Rome instead! At this point it was 11 pm and we both had had a couple of Bellinis. But we managed to rebook our last night in Milan and book the other two at a hotel in Rome I’d been too previously. And booked the necessary train tickets. We ended up ‘eating’ one ticket which we no longer were going to use but we actually ended up saving money. But forecast for Rome is sun. And now Crista will get the ‘grand Italy tour of Venice, Florence and Rome’.

Thoughts on Venice in March. Well definitely less crowded but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t crowded in the touristy areas such as Rialto. Piazza San Marco was noticeably less crowded. We waited 10 minutes to get into the Doges Palace, about that for the Basilica. The line that in July stretched from the Basilica to almost the canal was about ¼ as long midday, same for the bell tower. So not ‘no lines’ but clearly shorter ones. Back ‘streets’ almost deserted, but the main streets to and from Rialto/Piazza San Marco etc. had enough people that you had to go around them or slow down. But overall, on a crowd basis it was almost like night and day the difference between July and March. Mid day on the vaparetto we easily stood by the side, at 5pm we even got a front row seat! There was a mix of sun and clouds and Sunday night it was super foggy (and cold). Very different from a full moon and bare legs weather. I wore a thin long sleeve shirt and half the time I had a down jacket on and the other half not. The light is definitely different, the water not as blue/green, the sun (even when it is out) doesn’t really get into the smaller canals and calles even at mid day. I’m guessing there is a tiny window of ‘good weather/ not terribly crowded’ that probably lasts a few days around late April but for most of the year I think you have to choose. This was interesting, and very glad I got to see Venice being more like a real city instead of ‘Disney World’ but I guess if I had to choose I’d pick the crowds over the poor light/cool temps. But that might be the photographer in me, I think others would choose the opposite. Piazza San Marco is nice to not be jammed, but the atmosphere is better in the summer.

I was in Venice last July and it was terribly crowded. I’d been before (in 2000, 04, & 08) and while there were certainly crowds in the main touristy areas of the Rialto, Accademia, and San Marco during midday, in the early and later hours and anywhere other than that main tourist stretch it was not at all crowded. But this last trip it was mobbed from 8 am to 10 pm and even on the smallest back canal. A friend had been first week of April last year and said it was wonderful, no crowds, great weather. So I decided I wanted to experience that for myself.
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<b>Tuesday, March 21, 2017</b> high 60s - On to <b>Florence!</b>
(After a short stroll around the the ‘Ghetto’ section of Venice) Train was from 11:25-13:30 so we bought lunch to eat en route.

Although I’d only been to Florence once, 9 years before, we easily found the <b>Hotel Alba Palace</b> on the street to the right of the train station. The street is not especially scenic, nor is exterior of the building. But lobby and breakfast room were quite nice, and there’s a bar with cold water, hot water – tea, coffee, etc. and cookies and savory snacks (pretzels, nuts, etc.) available all day. The room - #001 is right next to the breakfast room and elevator – but utterly quiet inside. And OMG – what an amazing room! The room is two stories high with a gigantic exposed stone and brick wall and another brick wall, arcaded ceiling, two story marble column. Queen size bed, beautiful painted armoire, matching small cabinet (hiding the mini-fridge), and bench (plus a wooden table/desk and two wooden end tables. 48” flat screen TV. And then ---- wood and iron spiral stair case leading to a loft with two twin beds, more great furniture and French doors leading to a large terrace with a table and chairs. And the bathroom is also huge, with full tub. So it’s clearly a ‘quad’ room. Only a 5-minute walk from the train station or Santa Maria Novella church/piazza (with several decent restaurants) and about 10 minutes from the Duomo. What a find. €125 a night. (Only drawback was a rather mediocre breakfast).

We dropped our stuff and went out to explore – Piazza del Duomo , Piazza Signoria, Pont Vecchio, Mercato Nuovo, San Lorenzo cloister, San Lorenzo Market. Florence center, another UNESCO World Heritage Site, is quite compact and very walkable and much of the center is pedestrianized.
On the way back to the room we stopped and got a bottle of wine and got some of the free snacks from the hotel and had ‘cocktails’ on the terrace. Then I ran out and got some early evening shots while Crista hung out in the room. Then went to one of the restaurants on Piazza Santa Maria Novella – pasta, risotto at an outside table (they had heater lamps).
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I'm really enjoying your TR! Especially with your friend along- I have a friend that sounds very similar and she moves a lot faster through museums or sites than I do. Have been wondering how to make with a trip with her work, and I think it definitely helps that you've been before and have done the research to make it go smoothly.

I'm a fan of slow travel but I think folks here tend to go too far in that direction when giving advice. A lot of tourists don't mind just hitting the headliner sights and not lingering.

I also really enjoyed your take on Venice- I enjoyed the relatively low crowds of December and I'm not sure I'd enjoy July quite as much but I did keep wondering about how Venice would look different in high summer. May have to go back to see!
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marvelousmouse - I agree that sometimes it feels like everyone is discouraging posters who propose doing a one week overview trip. I usually travel at a different pace but this trip made me realize there isn't as much 'wrong' with a '3 cities in a week' trip as I thought. It really was fun. I might have felt different if I hadn't been to those places many times, I think I would have been frustrated trying to fit in all the sights I'd heard/read about. But my friend didn't care at all that there were lots of things we weren't seeing - and it made me realize that lots of people do feel that way. For them a quick overview can be a good introduction, and many will go back.

Definitely a different vibe to Venice in March vs summer. So there's an excuse for you to go back.
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Great report, isabel! Why did you move to zenfolio, if I may ask? I still have some galleries on pbase.

FWIW, I traveled with family members and also friends in Italy last summer; they all arrived and departed different days. Some of them were first-timers. To accommodate everyone's wish-lists, I covered quite a bit of ground in a relatively short timeframe, but it turned out that we all had a wonderful time. Glad you and your buddy did too.
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My thing is less the frustration of fitting everything in and more the fact I enjoy meandering. And there's stuff that pops out at you when you're there that really didn't seem interesting in a guide book. For Venice, that was museums. I want to to go back for specifically the islands because I never made it to those. I got so distracted by all the little specialized museums. Family and friends recommended 2 nights and I am really happy I stayed 4- just enough to make me happy.

You mentioned you friend wasn't much of planner- may I ask, did that bother you? My friends that really would enjoy a trip like that are not planners at all and sometimes I feel frustrated like I'm repsonsible for their enjoyment.

Anyway...yes, I will go back someday, I'm sure. I've only been home for less than 5 months and I already am getting the Europe itch. Just can't decide between going back to somewhere I've been or going for somewhere I haven't seen. I thought I'd develop a preference between U.K., France, Germany, and Italy, but they're ALL calling to me
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Leelly2 - I switched to zenfolio because I liked the overall look of it better. I was impressed with some of the sites I'd seen and it was the same price as pbase. It also has the blog function. I don't plan on 'blogging' in the sense of posting all the time, but when I do a trip report it is kind of nice to be able to put some photos right in with the descriptions so people can see what I'm talking about. I describe things better with my photos than with my words. I also like that I don't have to bother resizing the images. Uploading a whole batch of images is equally easy on pbase and zenfollio but just adding one or two images to an existing gallery is easier on zenfolio.

maravelousmouse - it didn't bother me this trip that she didn't do any planning. I was going anyway so it wasn't like we were planning a trip to somewhere new for both of us. If she hadn't come I would have still gone to Venice - like I said, I wanted to experience it without the summer crowds and do some things I'd never gotten around to. Had I been alone I would have spent more time in Venice and done some of the little museums you talked about (so now I need to go again, darn). I would have gone to some more small towns I haven't been to instead of Rome.

I know what you mean about feeling like you are responsible for other people's enjoyment. That wasn't the case on this trip (maybe it was this particular friend, or maybe the way the trip came about) but I have certainly felt it on other trips with people who have some of their own ideas of what we should do/see yet expect me to make it happen.

And I also have the 'itch' but fortunately for me I am going back in less than two months - five weeks of northern Spain with a little Basque France also.
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<b>Can you “see” Florence in one full day? Yes you can.</b>

<b>Wednesday, March 22, 2017</b> Temps in the70s
The buildings on the <b>Piazza del Duomo</b> – which include the <b>Duomo, the Baptistery, and the Campanile di Giotto</b> are among the most colorful buildings in Italy. The exteriors are composed of geometrically patterned bands of white, pink, and green marble, an interesting contrast to the sienna-colored fortress-like palazzi around the city. One description I read said they looked like “buildings in carnival wear”. Florence has a very somber and foreboding feel to its streets lined with dark, heavy stone palazzos so the ensemble on Piazza del Duomo really stands out.

The Duomo is one of the largest (Europe’s 4th largest) and most impressive cathedrals and represents the “flowering of the Florentine Gothic style”. The dome, by Brunelleschi, was the largest when it was built (1296 to 1436) and he based it on the construction techniques used in the Pantheon. When Michelangelo was working on the design of the dome of St Peter’s he based it on the Florence dome. Opposite the Duomo is the small, octagonal shaped Baptistery. The exterior is clad in the same tricolor marble as the Duomo, but seems much more ‘plain’ – except for the famous bronze doors- which some say marks the beginning of the Renaissance. The actual building is much older than the Duomo, but during the same period that the Duomo was built, the interior was covered with glittering mosaics (by Venetian and Byzantine style artists). In addition to the ‘usual’ depictions of Christ, saints and sinners, there is an interesting monster like creature devouring a human.

The interior of the Cathedral can be entered for free, but the Baptistery as well as climbing the Campanile and the Dome of the Duomo require a ticket. One ticket (15€ covers all of them plus the cathedral museum). In addition, in order to climb the Duomo dome, you need a reservation. The building directly across from the Baptistery has tickets and a machine where you make your climb reservation.

We did the Baptistery first thing in the morning – amazing and wonderful to see but it doesn’t take long as it’s just one fairly small open space. The Duomo itself is of course much larger although most of the ‘decoration’ has been removed to the museum. The most impressive part is the view of the dome – which even from the ground floor is pretty amazing. With the ticket you are also allowed to go down into the crypt, which had some interesting displays.

At our reserved time we got on line for the Duomo climb. As they only let people in every half hour, you are accompanied by quite a crowd as you ascend the 463 steps. The frescoes are even more amazing up close – and the same ‘human eating monster’ featured on the Baptistery ceiling is also here. Unfortunately you have to look through Plexiglas, which does detract. It was a fairly orderly climb till just before the open area at the top where it became a zoo – mostly due to people who felt they needed to take selfies up there. After elbowing our way past the selfish selfie takers we did enjoy the view. I think the view from the top of the campanile (414 steps) is even better as it includes the Duomo (and is way less crowded and crazy so the climb is more enjoyable). But no frescoes. So you really do have to do both.

A few blocks away, amidst more palazzos, is the <b>Nouvo Mercato</b> (now selling mostly leather goods to tourists) with the famous bronze boar, whose nose is shinny because people rub it for good luck.

It’s only about a five minute walk to the other main piazza in Florence, the <b>Piazza della Signoria</b> which is home to the <b>Palazzo Vecchio</b> (town hall), the <b>Loggia</b> (originally built to shield dignitaries from the elements during speeches and ceremonies) and the Uffizi gallery, Florence’s major art museum. Guarding the entrance to the castle-looking Palazzo is a copy of Michelangelo’s “David”. I know many people feel you ‘need’ to see the original, but I actually think I prefer a copy in an original setting to an original in a museum. While David is pretty serene, just standing there looking good, most of the other sculpture is pretty violent. Perseus holds up the severed head of Medusa, The Sabine Virgins are Raped, Hercules slays the Centaur Nessus, and a large lion guards the whole area. Outside in the Piazza itself are Cosimo de Medici on his horse as well as Neptune and his fountain.

Just behind the Palazzo Vecchio is the U-shaped Uffizi Gallery (Italy’s top visited museum – long lines, reservations recommended. I had visited on my previous trip to Florence and we didn’t have time this trip). But the building itself is pretty impressive, and it opens out onto the Arno, with a view to the Tuscan Hills across the river, and the <b>Pont Vecchio</b>, another of Florence’s ‘must sees’. The bridge was built in 1345 to replace an even earlier version and has characteristic overhanging houses lining both sides. In the 16th century, it was home to butchers until Cosimo moved into the Palazzo Pitti across the river. He couldn’t stand the stench, so he evicted the meat cutters and moved in the classier gold- and silversmiths, and jewelers occupy it to this day. Apparently there is a way to walk from the Uffizi (which was offices, Uffizi means office) over the top level of the Pont Vecchio to the Pitti Palace with out having to interact with the hoards of people. Today there are still hoards of people – tourist from the time the jewelry shops open till late evening. So walking across it is not as rewarding as viewing it – which can be done from both banks of the Arno as well as the next bridge up. Ponte Vecchio was the only bridge spared by the Nazzi’s as they retreated from Florence, deciding it was too beautiful to blow up.

We walked to <b>Santa Croce</b>, another beautiful exterior (the Duomo buildings, Santa Maria Novello and Santa Croce are all pink/white/green marble and very ‘pretty’ compared to the dark Siena colored stone of most of the other buildings in Florence – made even darker and more somber looking by the fact that it was cloudy. Considered Florence’s second most important church after the Duomo it sits at the eastern edge of the centro storico in one of the most ‘genuine’ neighborhoods left in the center. It’s often referred to as Italy’s “Westminster Abbey’ for the number of it’s highly decorated chapels and the tombs of some of the most important Italians of their day: Michelangelo, Dante. Galileo, Machiavelli, Rossini. The side chapels, 16 of them, richly frescoes (many by Giotto), go on and on, as do the cloisters. There is also a leather school, which although no longer staffed solely by monks, does still produce leather products.

From Santa Croce we hiked up to <b>Piazzale Michelangelo</b> and <b>Santa Maria al Monte</b> above that. Great Views (despite the clouds). The church is quite dark inside and has a very different feel to most of the other churches in Florence.

We got a great sandwich which we shared and two cappuccinos for €7 and ate on a bench in Piazzale Michelangelo.

Back in town we wandered over the Pont Vecchio but the jewelry was above our pay grade so we went back to the <b>San Lorenzo Market</b>. I was tempted by the bags – Florence is pocketbook shopping heaven - Crista got a large leather tote bag with matching bag inside and smaller pouch. But I resisted and only got a few smaller pouches for camera accessories etc. We had dinner at a restaurant near the Pont Vecchio but it was quite decent pasta and grilled veggies.
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<b>Thursday, March 23, 2017</b> Florence to Rome - high 60s

After breakfast we took a stroll around the historic center and climbed the Campanile. Then Santa Maria Novella –the third of the ‘white, pink and green marble’ churches in Florence. There were some interesting cloisters. While not quite as impressive as Santa Croce in terms of amount of frescoes, the ones they did have were more interesting as they included scenes of Florence and surrounding areas.

Just before the trip I had read a novel by Sarah Durant set in 15th century Florence which featured a family that hired a painter to paint the family’s palazzo’s chapel with frescoes. The painter used the family members as models for the faces of people in the frescoes, and scenes from the area. So this was apparently a common practice, at least in residential frescoes. I found it interesting to wander the streets of Florence and imagine what is in all those palazzos. Now I know many of them are carved up into apartments, or offices, etc. but originally they were ‘family homes’. Having read the novel, “The Birth of Venus” did certainly help to bring 15th century Florence alive. Sarah Durant has written numerous other historical novels set in various Italian cities (“In the Company of the courtesan” 16th Century Venice; “Sacred Hearts” 16th century Ferrara, etc.). Also watching movies set in places I’m going to visit is a good way to get a ‘feel’ for a place. For Florence one of the best is “Room with a View”. A more recent one is “Inferno” with Tom Hanks based on the Dan Brown novel.

We ended up getting to the train station almost an hour before our train to Rome so we sat and had cappuccinos at a train station café listening to people play the piano. I love that many train stations in Europe have pianos just sitting there waiting for passersby to stop and play a few tunes. In the hour we were there several people did just that.
Train was high speed (up to 255km/hr) and took just 1.5 hours. Went through a lot of tunnels – ear popping. Somehow I booked us in Business Class – seats are a bit wider, and leather instead of cloth. Otherwise no difference and certainly not worth any extra money.


Checked into the <b>Hotel Julia</b>. It’s almost a half hour walk from Termini. It’s twice as far as the Floris, the other hotel I’ve stayed at recently in Rome, but they were full with only two days notice. So it was a pain to drag the bags, but once at the Julia it is closer to everything. A ten minute walk to the Trevi Fountain, less than five minutes to Piazza Barberini (where there is a metro stop), and on a quiet (for Rome) street. It's a perfectly fine hotel, not luxury but clean and comfortable. There is an annex next to the main building, where the rooms are a bit nicer, but the wi-fi not as good (at least it wasn't a few years ago, it was great in the main building this trip).

As we had not planned on going to Rome on this trip I had none of my information with me, no map (although the hotel has good free maps they give out). Fortunately I’ve been there enough recently that I know my way around pretty well. I took Crista on my favorite “<b>Introductory Rome Walk”</b>

<b>Trevi Fountain</b> (nice and clean after it’s recent renovation, the scaffolding that’s been in place the last few years all gone), The Trevi Fountain, 1762, is an incredible Baroque Masterpiece, huge and beautiful. But it's beauty and fame (featured in "Three Coins in a Fountain", the 1954 film that was the first color film to be produced on location, it made half of America decide to go visit Italy) have caused it to be difficult to visit. An aquatic marvel in a city filled with them, the fountain's unique drama is largely due to the site: its vast basin is squeezed into the tight meeting of three little streets (the "tre via", which gives the fountain its name) with cascades emerging as if from the back wall of Palazzo Poli behind it. The tiny piazza in front of it is literally jam-packed most of day, full of tourists trying to throw a coin over their shoulder into the fountain to assure they will return to Rome -and of course take a selfi. There are some railings to lean on - if you can get anywhere close to them - but no benches. Early in the morning before the tour groups arrive it is still enjoyable, after that forget it.

<b>Piazza Colona</b> (site of one of the most dramatic obelisks in Rome, the Column of Marcus Aurelius built in AD180 but changed in 1589 when a pope replaced the Roman warrior on top with a statue of St Paul. Behind the obelisk is the Palazzo Chigi, residence of the prime minister.) Then on to <b>Piazza di Montecitorio</b> – a Bernini designed piazza containing a 6th century BC Egyptian obelisk. About a block further is <b>La Maddalena</b>, Rome’s only truly Rococo church, 1669. Slight detour back a block or so to <b>Piazza di Pietra</b> home to 11 huge Corinthian columns that are the remains of the 2nd Century Tempio di Adriano. Another block or two to Piazza Rotunda.

<b>Piazza Rotunda</b> is one of my favorite piazzas in Rome but it was soooo crowded and a line to get into the <b>Pantheon</b>! (it’s free, the line was just too many people trying to get in). Six previous trips to Rome, many of which were in high season and I never saw it like this. So we skipped going in for the time being. At 9:00 the next morning there was no line and virtually empty inside.

Just behind the Pantheon is the <b>Chiesa di Santa Maria Sopra Minerva</b>, a church built over (sopra) an ancient temple (of Minerva). The church has been ‘renovated’ numerous times so it’s not terribly authentic despite technically being Rome’s only Gothic church. But inside is a Michelangelo sculpture and outside is an adorable elephant sculpture atop a short obelisk, by Bernini. Free

On to <b>Piazza Navonna</b> – [So far this is only about .8 mile] Rome’s most impressive Baroque square. Crista duly impressed, not only with all the sculptures and fountains, but also the beautiful Sant’Agnese in Agone church, and just the overall ambiance of all the ochre colored buildings, cafes, artists selling their work. So far we have seen enough sculptures, fountains, etc. to fill a museum, but all of it for free, in the places for which they were designed.

We then wound our way through the narrow streets and tiny Piazzettas towards the Tiber (one of my favorites is <b>Piazzetta di S Simone</b and up to <b>Piazza del Popolo</b>, one of Rome’s largest squares which was gorgeous in the late afternoon sun with blue sky and puffy white clouds. [another approximately 1 mile].

We climbed the Rampa del Pincio from Piazza del Popolo to the Pincio Terrace, in the <b>Borghese Gardens</b>. There is a spectacular view of the city from here. Everything was that gorgeous spring green color, there was wisteria, forsythia, and pink and white and purple flowering trees. About a half a mile from there brings you to the top of the <b>Spanish Steps</b>. Guidebooks say the Spanish Steps are ‘one of the most famous images’ in the world, certainly it’s well featured in tons of books and movies but Crista managed to have never heard of it. Still, she managed to be impressed by it.

Via Sistina is just a busy shopping street although I love the view of the bell tower of Santa Maria Maggiore in the distance. At the end of the street is <b>Piazza Barberini</b>, with the 1642 Triton Fountain (Fontana del Tritone) in the center. Another baroque masterpiece by Bernini. The <b>Palazzo Barberini</b> another block down the street, is at the top of Via Rasella which is where our hotel is.

So this whole walk is really only about 3 miles – although with little detours and such it took us considerably more (according to fitbit).

We had dinner at a restaurant on Piazza Barberini, got a bottle of wine and went back to the hotel.
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Love your trip report. I am saving it for future reference as we are going to Italy in September 2018 (we are trying to avoid some of the crowds but hopefully get some good weather). I will definitely use your information when planning. Thanks for writing.
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Still loving your report. I adore Rome's fountains.

It sounds like you've stayed fairly close to Termini before? How was that? People told me that the area was kind of seedy, and I stayed in Trastevere. Which I liked but was a bit inconvenient. Most of the hostels with good reviews are near Termini so I'm considering staying near there next time.
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