Is this the right way?
Oct 25th, 2014, 08:57 PM
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Is this the right way?
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Let me know If following itinerary is possible or reverse from east to west?
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Flying to Barcelona for 3 days, take a train to Paris for 3 days, easy jet flight to Catania for 3 days, train to Napeles, (sorrento) 3 days, easy jet flight to from Naples to Mykonos 3 days, ferry to Santorini for 3 days, fly back home from Athens.
I am fine if I am wasting travel time while on train or plane. I believe its part of travel too.
I can book from Greece and fly back home from Barcelona too. thanks .
Let me know If following itinerary is possible or reverse from east to west?
thanks.
Flying to Barcelona for 3 days, take a train to Paris for 3 days, easy jet flight to Catania for 3 days, train to Napeles, (sorrento) 3 days, easy jet flight to from Naples to Mykonos 3 days, ferry to Santorini for 3 days, fly back home from Athens.
I am fine if I am wasting travel time while on train or plane. I believe its part of travel too.
I can book from Greece and fly back home from Barcelona too. thanks .
Oct 25th, 2014, 09:30 PM
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How many days are you talking about? If you intend to actually spend the allotted days in each city and use additional days as travel days I suppose it is possible. Not enjoyable, IMO, but possible. If travel days are included it is still physically possible but it would be at all enjoyable for me.
Oct 25th, 2014, 09:35 PM
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You asked a possibility question.
Paris-Catania does not run daily except in summer.
Naples-Mykonos only runs in June through August, twice a week.
You can find all these at Easyjet web site.
If you schedule out schedule holes, if is "possible".
Even if possible, disregarding whether one even bothers to do this type itinerary, the routing is risky. If they cancel Naples-Mykonos, for example, what are you going to do? You can read their obligation here http://support.easyjet.com/case-5155
Paris-Catania does not run daily except in summer.
Naples-Mykonos only runs in June through August, twice a week.
You can find all these at Easyjet web site.
If you schedule out schedule holes, if is "possible".
Even if possible, disregarding whether one even bothers to do this type itinerary, the routing is risky. If they cancel Naples-Mykonos, for example, what are you going to do? You can read their obligation here http://support.easyjet.com/case-5155
Oct 25th, 2014, 09:42 PM
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Hi
True, It will be tedious, but I intend to visit Catania, and my only option is fly from Paris and and from Catania I can either fly back to Paris or Milan, I am adding Naples so than I can take the flight to Greek Islands.
***prefer easy jet airlines only.
True, It will be tedious, but I intend to visit Catania, and my only option is fly from Paris and and from Catania I can either fly back to Paris or Milan, I am adding Naples so than I can take the flight to Greek Islands.
***prefer easy jet airlines only.
Oct 26th, 2014, 07:26 AM
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I would start in Greece. I like to get my longest travel connection done first. Did you check Aegean Airlines for flights? They used to have a Catania/Athens flight.
I'm not sure it makes sense to fly to Sicily for only three days.. Is that four hotel nights (which only gives you 3 days to sightsee)? Why Catania?
I'm not sure it makes sense to fly to Sicily for only three days.. Is that four hotel nights (which only gives you 3 days to sightsee)? Why Catania?
Oct 26th, 2014, 08:15 AM
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Your plan sucks. What is the purpose of this race?
It certainly is not to spend any time IN places seeing/doing things. You will hardly have enough time to figure out where you are before you are leaving again.
If however, the purpose of this trip is simply to tick names off a list, then it is fine. But don't kid yourself that you are actually going to 'visit' any of these places.
It certainly is not to spend any time IN places seeing/doing things. You will hardly have enough time to figure out where you are before you are leaving again.
If however, the purpose of this trip is simply to tick names off a list, then it is fine. But don't kid yourself that you are actually going to 'visit' any of these places.
Oct 26th, 2014, 10:11 AM
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I don't think it's that bad, there are 3 days in each place. I would think it bad if there were only 1 night in some place that was really out of the way and took a day each way there. It's going to be expensive with all those flights and train, though. But as for your general trajectory, sure, it's fine, you would have to do Barcelona-Paris-Italy-Greece or the reverse direction. The only other possible itinerary I could think of would be Greece-Italy-Barcelona-Paris. Probably just as good and just depends if there are such cheap flights from Italy to BCN or not.
IO love Easyjet and have flown from the BCN to Paris BTW, they do that route. But if you want to spend 6+ hours on a train one day, that will work, also. BCN airport isn't that far out and great, but it is true arriving at a Paris train station is more convenient than an airport (although Orly better than CDG, and Easyjet flies into CDG from BCN, Vueling may fly to Orly).
Easyjet flies from Naples to Nice, but not to BCN. You could do that on the end, then take a train from Nice to Barcelona. I also like the idea of getting the most time-consuming travel out of the way at the beginning.
Vueling is a low cost Spanish airline that competes with Easyjet. It does have some nonstops from Catania to BCN, actually, but only certain days (I see Sunday afternoon, for one, and Thursdays, check your dates). They also have nonstops from Naples to BCN on most days of the week. So that's an option for you.
IO love Easyjet and have flown from the BCN to Paris BTW, they do that route. But if you want to spend 6+ hours on a train one day, that will work, also. BCN airport isn't that far out and great, but it is true arriving at a Paris train station is more convenient than an airport (although Orly better than CDG, and Easyjet flies into CDG from BCN, Vueling may fly to Orly).
Easyjet flies from Naples to Nice, but not to BCN. You could do that on the end, then take a train from Nice to Barcelona. I also like the idea of getting the most time-consuming travel out of the way at the beginning.
Vueling is a low cost Spanish airline that competes with Easyjet. It does have some nonstops from Catania to BCN, actually, but only certain days (I see Sunday afternoon, for one, and Thursdays, check your dates). They also have nonstops from Naples to BCN on most days of the week. So that's an option for you.
Oct 30th, 2014, 08:40 AM
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No there is not 3 days in each place Christina. There is a travel day and then 2 days in each place. The percentage of total time that is lost to moving from A to B is high.
Best use of time is being IN places, not in BETWEEN places. Move less, see/do more. Two days in Barcelona or 2 days in Paris etc. is just about ticking the name off a list.
Why people who have limited time available think that quantity over quality makes sense is something I really don't understand. The oft used phrase is 'to see as much as possible' but they confuse the word 'much' with the word 'many'. The way to see as MUCH as possible is to spend your time IN a place, not moving around. It's about quality use of time, not quantity of places.
Best use of time is being IN places, not in BETWEEN places. Move less, see/do more. Two days in Barcelona or 2 days in Paris etc. is just about ticking the name off a list.
Why people who have limited time available think that quantity over quality makes sense is something I really don't understand. The oft used phrase is 'to see as much as possible' but they confuse the word 'much' with the word 'many'. The way to see as MUCH as possible is to spend your time IN a place, not moving around. It's about quality use of time, not quantity of places.
Oct 30th, 2014, 09:07 AM
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Sojourn...you hit the nail smack on the head. My overseas travel is all but over, but I'm so happy to have done most of it as you suggest. Good thing that both my wonderful late wives subscribed..in my earlier days I just might have succumbed to the OP's plan....to their chagrin!
Oct 30th, 2014, 10:01 AM
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As you can see there are people here who have decided there is only ONE way to travel and that getting to and from a place, regardless of how it is accomplished is not considered anything but a necessity and is best accomplished as rapidly as possible. I have always disagreed with this rigid approach and continue to do so. It is like Rick Steves in reverse IMO.
If you are determined to fly some of these segments and Easyjet does do it for you I would check the www.skyscanner.com website for alternative carriers.
If you are determined to fly some of these segments and Easyjet does do it for you I would check the www.skyscanner.com website for alternative carriers.
Oct 30th, 2014, 10:46 AM
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You are allocating the same amount of time to places that have a lot to do and see as you do to places with nearly nothing to do and see.
There is so much to see and do near Sorrento (The Amalfi Coast, Capri, Positano, Amalfi, Pompeii, Herculaneum, Paestum, Naples, Vesuvius, Ravello, etc.) and so little to do and see in Mykonos, frankly, I would give no more than a day to Mykonos and the rest to the AC or Sicily.
Sicily is large with a lot to offer, and Catania is not the most beautiful or interesting. If you can add a day or two to visit Agrigento, Syracusa, etc. fine. Otherwise, you are spending a lot of time and money and not seeing the best of Sicily.
Don't know if you are traveling alone or with someone and want a couple or days for rest or romance, but, IMHO, that is what Santorini is good for, a place to sit, walk a bit, chill, look at the water. That is it! With someone, it could be nice and romantic. By myself, a day might be too much.
I have been to every place you are going. So, is your plan physically doable? Yep. However, even if you do not mind the travel times, the use of time in each place, IME, is not well thought out or planned. Really, figure out what you want to do in each place. Then allocate your days.
There is so much to see and do near Sorrento (The Amalfi Coast, Capri, Positano, Amalfi, Pompeii, Herculaneum, Paestum, Naples, Vesuvius, Ravello, etc.) and so little to do and see in Mykonos, frankly, I would give no more than a day to Mykonos and the rest to the AC or Sicily.
Sicily is large with a lot to offer, and Catania is not the most beautiful or interesting. If you can add a day or two to visit Agrigento, Syracusa, etc. fine. Otherwise, you are spending a lot of time and money and not seeing the best of Sicily.
Don't know if you are traveling alone or with someone and want a couple or days for rest or romance, but, IMHO, that is what Santorini is good for, a place to sit, walk a bit, chill, look at the water. That is it! With someone, it could be nice and romantic. By myself, a day might be too much.
I have been to every place you are going. So, is your plan physically doable? Yep. However, even if you do not mind the travel times, the use of time in each place, IME, is not well thought out or planned. Really, figure out what you want to do in each place. Then allocate your days.
Oct 31st, 2014, 07:47 PM
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Dukey, I think there is one way to travel for me. It isn't even mentioned anywhere above. But I also think there are some things that make sense for anyone who travels.
The idea of 'to each his own' assumes that 2 or more things are equal. You go left, I go right, what difference does it make? To each his own right.
But that assumption is not always correct. Let's go to the extreme. If the objective is to tick places off a list, then find the fastest way to travel, step off the plane or train or rickshaw, say 'been here, done this' and move on to the next place. With some planning, you could probably do several countries per DAY! But would anyone try to say that was a good idea?
Now go to the other extreme. Fly to one place, spend all your time in that place and then fly home. Maximum time IN a place spent seeing/doing things. But would anyone say that was a good idea? In fact yes, many would but only if they only wanted to visit one place per trip.
Most people who want to visit more than one place on a trip look for a balance. The question is, what is a reasonable balance. I look at that and say well if you must waste days moving between places, then decide how much of your time you are willing to spend doing that.
Let's say, you decide spending 50% of your time moving makes sense to you. So you move every second day. Someone else says, 25% of their time is all they are willing to spend moving. That means they move every 4th day.
Now go back to, 'to each his own'. Is moving every second day good use of time? Is moving every 4th day better use of time? Is moving once a week even better use of time? I think it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out there is a basic minimum that can make sense.
Most experienced travellers will agree that the 2 commonest mistakes that travellers make are packing too much and trying to see/do too much in too little time. It isn't about there only being ONE way to travel. It's about being smarter ways and dumber ways to travel. If you want to move every second or third day, that's up to you. But it does NOT make your way equal to another way. It's about best use of time and that isn't a 'to each his own' thing at all.
So you're inferring that people here are trying to tell the OP how to travel based on thinking there is only ONE way, their way, is wrong. People are trying to tell the OP what years of experience has taught them. Slow down and see/do more. The OP can choose to visit 1 place or 6 places but it makes sense to spend enough time in each place to see/do what that place has to offer.
Now for MY way of travel. I buy a one way ticket to A. I stay in A until I am ready to move on. Then and only then do I move on. I may never even get to a B and if I do, I don't know where B will be until I am done with A and decide to look for a B. I repeat that until I run out of time or money and then I buy a ticket home. That's it, NO plan, no 3 days or 2 days or 6 days. When I am ready to move I move, not before. Do you see me telling the OP that is the ONE way to travel? I recognize most people aren't suited to travel like I do.
It's easy to say 'to each his own' but in many cases, saying that is simply a cop out. I'd rather people told me what they think is smart or dumb. I am and I'm sure the OP is, capable of looking at the logic of various viewpoints and deciding what I will do. Saying, 'do what you want, to each his own' doesn't help someone who is asking for help. The OP basically asked, 'does this plan make sense'. He got answers to that from every poster except YOU.
The idea of 'to each his own' assumes that 2 or more things are equal. You go left, I go right, what difference does it make? To each his own right.
But that assumption is not always correct. Let's go to the extreme. If the objective is to tick places off a list, then find the fastest way to travel, step off the plane or train or rickshaw, say 'been here, done this' and move on to the next place. With some planning, you could probably do several countries per DAY! But would anyone try to say that was a good idea?
Now go to the other extreme. Fly to one place, spend all your time in that place and then fly home. Maximum time IN a place spent seeing/doing things. But would anyone say that was a good idea? In fact yes, many would but only if they only wanted to visit one place per trip.
Most people who want to visit more than one place on a trip look for a balance. The question is, what is a reasonable balance. I look at that and say well if you must waste days moving between places, then decide how much of your time you are willing to spend doing that.
Let's say, you decide spending 50% of your time moving makes sense to you. So you move every second day. Someone else says, 25% of their time is all they are willing to spend moving. That means they move every 4th day.
Now go back to, 'to each his own'. Is moving every second day good use of time? Is moving every 4th day better use of time? Is moving once a week even better use of time? I think it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out there is a basic minimum that can make sense.
Most experienced travellers will agree that the 2 commonest mistakes that travellers make are packing too much and trying to see/do too much in too little time. It isn't about there only being ONE way to travel. It's about being smarter ways and dumber ways to travel. If you want to move every second or third day, that's up to you. But it does NOT make your way equal to another way. It's about best use of time and that isn't a 'to each his own' thing at all.
So you're inferring that people here are trying to tell the OP how to travel based on thinking there is only ONE way, their way, is wrong. People are trying to tell the OP what years of experience has taught them. Slow down and see/do more. The OP can choose to visit 1 place or 6 places but it makes sense to spend enough time in each place to see/do what that place has to offer.
Now for MY way of travel. I buy a one way ticket to A. I stay in A until I am ready to move on. Then and only then do I move on. I may never even get to a B and if I do, I don't know where B will be until I am done with A and decide to look for a B. I repeat that until I run out of time or money and then I buy a ticket home. That's it, NO plan, no 3 days or 2 days or 6 days. When I am ready to move I move, not before. Do you see me telling the OP that is the ONE way to travel? I recognize most people aren't suited to travel like I do.
It's easy to say 'to each his own' but in many cases, saying that is simply a cop out. I'd rather people told me what they think is smart or dumb. I am and I'm sure the OP is, capable of looking at the logic of various viewpoints and deciding what I will do. Saying, 'do what you want, to each his own' doesn't help someone who is asking for help. The OP basically asked, 'does this plan make sense'. He got answers to that from every poster except YOU.
Oct 31st, 2014, 11:58 PM
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This trip sounds unpleasantly rushed to me. I recommend that you get some good guidebooks (or spend some time with a few in your local library), identify the things you most want to see in each location, note their opening/closing times, and mark them on a calendar. Then pencil in your transportation, add some time on either side (for getting to/from the train/bus station or whatever, checking in/out, packing/unpacking, getting oriented, etc.). Then see how things fit together. You might end up deciding to cut a destination or two....
Nov 1st, 2014, 04:00 AM
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Sojurn, could you be more tedious. Great for you.
I agree about cutting down Mykonos--and the analysis that accompanied it--spending the same amount of time where there is lots to do as where not so much. Mykonos is charming-BTDT sort of charming. But travelling around to other islands is great. How much time in Athens?
I agree about cutting down Mykonos--and the analysis that accompanied it--spending the same amount of time where there is lots to do as where not so much. Mykonos is charming-BTDT sort of charming. But travelling around to other islands is great. How much time in Athens?
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> I am fine if I am wasting travel time while on train or plane. I believe its part of travel too.
> I stay in A until I am ready to move on. Then and only then do I move on.
I agree both. I enjoy both moves and stays. That is travel, I think. I am such a kind of travelers. So, I pass here "how many days?" business.
> reverse from east to west?
I usually do from east to west. Day time delays make me ease, even by a couple of minutes. If the trip is in winter, more important.
> I stay in A until I am ready to move on. Then and only then do I move on.
I agree both. I enjoy both moves and stays. That is travel, I think. I am such a kind of travelers. So, I pass here "how many days?" business.
> reverse from east to west?
I usually do from east to west. Day time delays make me ease, even by a couple of minutes. If the trip is in winter, more important.
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