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Have I made a mistake in my apartment choice in Paris?

Old Jul 5th, 2015, 09:49 AM
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Have I made a mistake in my apartment choice in Paris?

I am renting an apartment in Paris for one week in September, which I have done several times before. I have a feeling I may have erred this time in choosing apartment by vrbo with no reviews. It has only been on the rental market for 6 months, but would have expected some reviews by now. Has anyone stayed here or have recommendations on the neighborhood? Thanks!

http://www.vrbo.com/670590#reviews
"Comfortable, Quiet, &Bright in Haut Marais"
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Old Jul 5th, 2015, 10:00 AM
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The management's other listings have what seem like good reviews, although I didn't read them all.

http://www.vrbo.com/my/e7f44754-ddab...e-france/paris

I would do it. It looks nice, sounds nice.

How about a easy to cancel hotel reservation if you feel you need back up?

But you know that renting always has some chances, and this doesn't seem like too big a gamble to me.
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Old Jul 5th, 2015, 10:07 AM
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Nothing you can do about it now, but if that's the only reason you are concerned, I wouldn't be. Time will tell. YOu liked the place and location and rent, and so your only concern is no reviews, I guess. I've only rented one several times in Paris, but none of them had public reviews anywhere, I think that is not the norm (to have lots of reviews you can read). I didn't rent from VRBO, though.

Did you ask the owner why no reviews? It looks okay to me, I didn't realize apts were getting that expensive in Paris for that size and location, but maybe I'm not current.

I'm surprised you chose the neighborhood if you didn't know it, but it's fine, so don't worry about that. It's a good location, convenient enough and lots of shops nearby for your needs.
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Old Jul 5th, 2015, 10:56 AM
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It is on the second (US 3rd) floor.

It doesn't mention a lift. Can you carry yourself and your luggage and groceries and drink up three floors? What do the stairs look like? Open and broad or twisting and shallow?

It may be in the "Haut Marais" but it could just as well be called "Bas Republique". That's just advertisingese. It's an interesting enough neighborhood, and there is life there, unlike Beaubourg.

These places often change listing services. The reviews from one service may not transfer to another. Not an issue.
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Old Jul 5th, 2015, 11:11 AM
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I like the Marais area, I just have rented before in the south Marais area close to the St Paul metro stop. The apartment has an elevator. And I can cancel up to 60 days in advance with full refund. That time is coming up soon. The manager told me there were no reviews because it is new on the market, however that was a few months ago and it looks like it has had many bookings over the past 6 months.
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Old Jul 5th, 2015, 11:37 AM
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Just to be sure - are you are aware of the Mayor's crackdown on rental properties, which will continue through the Summer? This area and Montmartre are the next to be targeted in the sting operation. Anyone listing rentals on the internet is being investigated - especially owners/managers with multiple property listings - and you risk a last-minute cancellation.

If you're OK with that, I would just suggest checking out the owner's credentials through any and all social media, review sites etc - to see what you can find out about how he handles his other rentals. Also a good idea to get the exact address and do a Google Street View tour of the building and neighborhood. There are businesses on the ground floors in most of these buildings, and you might not want to be above some of them.
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Old Jul 5th, 2015, 11:42 AM
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I doubt very many people review rentals, maybe 1 per 15 times? So I would not worry about it.

Personally, I worry more when I have paid a deposit and get no response to emails about arranging meeting up times until just a few days before arrival. Happened to me last year in France, happening now for rental in Rome.
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Old Jul 5th, 2015, 11:58 AM
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It does mention an elevator; just read down. I always look as a third floor walkup would be a deal breaker for me.
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Old Jul 5th, 2015, 12:10 PM
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I have not done reviews of some great apartments, just got busy and didn't get around to it, and have felt bad about it when the time passed for doing it.

So, trust your judgement and the response you get from the owner/manager.
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Old Jul 5th, 2015, 04:38 PM
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Tuscan, I looked at reviews of his other listings and that made me more comfortable. Manouche, I did a street level Google and all looks good. I've read about the crackdown on rental properties, but am willing to take my chances as far as that is concerned. Thanks for feedback!
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Old Jul 5th, 2015, 07:12 PM
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In the US, the 2nd floor is up one flight of stairs. So the way I see it this would be up two flights (up one flight to the first floor, up another to the second floor), not three. But there's an elevator so you're OK.
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Old Jul 6th, 2015, 01:43 AM
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I always look as a third floor walkup would be a deal breaker for me.

Yes, we should all look for this kind of things. I don't often rent appartments, but I do read all of the available info when I do.

Perso, being slightly claustrophobic and (slightly) overweight but (still relatively) young, I always take the stairs, to the amusement of some clerks at hotels...

I even gave a very bad review for one hotel (in Koeln) where the stairs were impracticable on the way up (blocked by locked doors, opening only from the inside).
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Old Jul 6th, 2015, 01:44 AM
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Nice to read from you, Nuke !
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Old Jul 6th, 2015, 03:29 AM
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If you're willing to roll the dice - and hopefully some of the people staying before you do will review the place - then I don't see any problems with this apt other than what I mentioned previously.

Sometimes it's actually a good idea to break in a new hotel or one that's been renovated. A new apartment can be a good thing as long as the owner and manager have their act together with other properties. I would never rent from a "newbie", though.

The only thing nagging at me is this - a large part of the crackdown is due to unhappy residents. If this building is not used to having people come and go - which might well be the case, since the apt has recently been renovated and presumably changed hands - you might not feel welcome here, or worse, someone might contact the Mayor's task force. Of course, you won't be thrown out into the street, but the possibility of a cancellation does exist.

But since you've been here before, you would know what to do about finding another place to stay.
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Old Jul 6th, 2015, 04:42 AM
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Very helpful comments. Another concern, especially due to the apartment crackdown in Paris, is that the manager wants the rest of the full payment 60 days prior to rental (I've already paid half). I've only had to this once before in San Quirico Italy, when I was dealing directly with an owner who had extensive positive reviews, and at which point he mailed me a key. All other times, I paid the balance on arrival. I would feel more comfortable handing over the balance when someone meets me to let me in, and I see I really have this apartment to stay in. Any thoughts?
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Old Jul 6th, 2015, 06:50 AM
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That does not sound good. And a bit abusive, for goodness' sake. I hope you can figure out a plan you are comfortable with.

After all the hacks on some of these sites it would make anyone nervous
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Old Jul 6th, 2015, 07:01 AM
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The risk is totally unbalanced and surly the owner should see it.
Did you ask him/her if they are ok with the legislation ? there is an official site somewhere (Sarastro found it) where owner can declare themselves but hardly nobody does it.
You could tell him/her you might pay if they prove that they are completely conforming to legislation.
... but even so I'd go for a plan B, you're right, it is not good... I've only paid one thing fully in advance (a piece of furniture) and guess what : that's when I had the most problems...
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Old Jul 6th, 2015, 07:40 AM
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Don't forget about the 750€ security deposit the owner requires.
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Old Jul 6th, 2015, 08:39 AM
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Owners are supposed to apply for a vacation (short term) rental permit at the appropriate Marie corresponding to the apartment's location. Owners are also supposed to collect the taxe de séjour for each night that an apartment is occupied.

If your owner can show you a copy of his permit and he is asking for the taxe de séjour corresponding to the number of nights you are staying; then he is operating legitimately and his asking for the entire rent in advance is probably as safe as it could be. However, if your owner demands full payment well in advance without proof that he is operating within the law, I would be very cautious about sending more money.
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Old Jul 6th, 2015, 09:57 AM
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The apartment looks very comfy, and has AC, free wifi and international phone calls.

Is that a typical amount for the deposit? Seems high.

I would never agree to pay in full in advance. Is this common? Seems risky to me.
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