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Old Oct 13th, 2008, 06:48 PM
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European History - Need Help!?

Hello Everyone,

I need a little help with a research topic I've been given. I need to name four people who have made a major impact on European history and what they did.
If anyone can give me a little info. on this I would be very grateful. Looking for all sorts of answers.
I am a smart person and can come with plenty on my own, but would like to get other peoples opinions.
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Old Oct 13th, 2008, 06:51 PM
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Hitler might be good start
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Old Oct 13th, 2008, 07:03 PM
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Hitler for sure.

Roman emporer Constantine brought Christianity to the Western world as we know it today.

Any of the Renaissance contributors such as Leonardi Da Vinci, Martin Luther or Johan Gutenberg.

Obscure choice is Vlad Tepes (look him up on wikipedia).

Hard to pick just four but there have been many extremely influential people on the history of Europe.
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Old Oct 13th, 2008, 07:28 PM
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Napoleon
Henry VIII, Queens Elizabeth, Victoria
Elenor of Aquitaine was interesting..and that reminds me of Joan d'Arc
Karl Marx

My own 4 would be Hitler, Napoleon, Constantine, and Karl Marx or Luther.
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Old Oct 13th, 2008, 08:14 PM
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Lorenzo de Medici
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Old Oct 13th, 2008, 08:34 PM
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Others to consider are Freud, Charlemange, Einstein, Peter the Great, Augustus, and Voltaire.
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Old Oct 13th, 2008, 11:17 PM
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The ones who spring to mind for me are:-

Augustus
Charlemagne
I think you then have to group the leaders of the French Revolution
Hitler

Also rans-

Clovis
Eleanor of Aquitaine,
Pope Urban II- who launched the First Crusade
Gutenberg
Luther
James Watt
Bismark
Lenin
Churchill
John Logie Baird
Babbage/Zuse


Thinking about this quite deeply, I find it interesting that I think so few are Britons. Not that there weren't great Britons, but I guess that stretch of wet must have made the difference



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Old Oct 13th, 2008, 11:23 PM
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Sheila, I guess the question is if Adam Smith deserves a place. Maybe if only four are allowed, he would not, but surely he might be in the top 20?
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Old Oct 13th, 2008, 11:39 PM
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I forgot about him.... Did he, do you think, change anything? Or just codify things? Genuine question.
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Old Oct 14th, 2008, 12:08 AM
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What about the Catholic Kings, Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain?
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Old Oct 14th, 2008, 12:55 AM
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Napoleon
Prince Henry the Navigator
Ataturk
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Old Oct 14th, 2008, 01:53 AM
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Watch "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure"....
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Old Oct 14th, 2008, 01:57 AM
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Sheila, my other half is delighted to see you include Babbage and Zuse in your list!

Although not a person I would say that an important part of European history, as opposed to the history of a European country, was the founding of the Benelux union followed by the European Coal and Steel community - which led to the EU.
Otherwise I would say Hitler, without a doubt, and Luther, Charlemagne and Augustus also all had a European wide impact. Otherwise you are looking at people who had major impact on one or two European countries. European history is difficult as there are so many versions of it depending which country you look at.
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Old Oct 14th, 2008, 02:06 AM
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I'm surprised no one's mentioned William the Conquerer.

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"... a major impact on European history ..."

Lots of great suggestions so far. You could spread your selections among four categories.

Political thought: Karl Marx, as suggested above.

The advance of civilization: Johannes Gutenberg, as suggested above, or someone like James Watt.

Health and medicine: someone like Louis Pasteur.

Cataclysmic change in society: Gavrilo Princip, who assassinated Archduke Ferdinand of Austria in June 1914. Many historians regard that as the vent that set the Great War in motion.

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Old Oct 14th, 2008, 03:05 AM
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What is it about typos that you only see them after you hit "Post"? It's ... event, not vent.
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"What about the Catholic Kings, Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain"

They'd be turning in their Catholic graves at the thought. Isabella was the Queen of Spain. Or are you claiming she was really a he, they were actually a homosexual couple and therefore more appropriately called the Catholic queens?

The standard English for the Spanish phrase "los reyes" is "the King and Queen" But in this particular case, the English for "los reyes catolicos" is "Ferdinand and Isabella".
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Old Oct 14th, 2008, 03:26 AM
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Yep I know - I just like the way it sounds!
They are also known as the Catholic Monarchs.

Anyway whatever you call them, I think they did have a big part to play in European and world history.
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In terms of a lasting influence on where Europe is now:

Hitler

Stalin

Wellington

Charles de Gaulle (for starting the EU)

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Old Oct 14th, 2008, 03:54 AM
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Pasteur (french but what the heck)
Wellington
That italian who invented double entry book keeping
Stalin
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