Eight tips on buying wine in a French supermarket
Jul 19th, 2014, 05:25 PM
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Eight tips on buying wine in a French supermarket
Jul 20th, 2014, 05:45 AM
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What a funny paper (the local), who on earth are the "Anglos"? It seems to be written by someone who has no idea what wine is like in the English speaking world. Or else it was written 30 years ago and has just arrived by time travel.
Tibor's next article LOL useless
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Jul 20th, 2014, 06:38 AM
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The Local can be a useful paper to read, there are editions for other countries with forums, expat community noticeboards etc. Maybe the French version is not translated so well into English. I guess this is making it difficult for some "Anglos" to understand.
Jul 20th, 2014, 06:46 AM
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I'm just not sure what an "Anglos" is, is it something to do with Los Angeles? Nor is a French supermarket wine shelf so very hard to understand for someone who is not French. The comments on screw tops are almost embarassing, since Penfolds, on of the world's greatest wine makers and my own favorite wine producers in France have been converted for a good number of years now have been using nothing else for 15 years plus.
Jul 20th, 2014, 07:25 AM
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That dailyeight website is pure garbage - written by an eight year old and proofread by no one.
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Tibor has an interesting profile picture - maybe it's his wife (or her sister)?
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Jul 20th, 2014, 01:34 PM
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So for Anglos used to grabbing a bottle of Pinot Noir off the shelf, the French system can be tricky. >>
except that in the UK we aren't so used to buying wine by grape type, but by region - claret, burgundy, Mosel, etc. it's our american and australian cousins who brought in the idea of varietals.
except that in the UK we aren't so used to buying wine by grape type, but by region - claret, burgundy, Mosel, etc. it's our american and australian cousins who brought in the idea of varietals.
Jul 20th, 2014, 01:57 PM
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"Anglos" is insular Yank for "American, but isn't everyone who speaks English as pig ignorant as us?"
Bilbo: the English for favourite is...favourite. You might try speaking your country's language.
Bilbo: the English for favourite is...favourite. You might try speaking your country's language.
Jul 21st, 2014, 12:02 AM
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Ah, a hate to site Wiki but it seems to be a linguistic thing but with some slightly unpleasant overtones. Focusing on the US then:
In some parts of the United States Anglo-American is shortened to Anglo and applied to white Americans who are not of Hispanic or Latino origin and sometimes to those who are not of French origin, but this criterion is based on specific linguistic considerations and limited to Louisiana and parts of Texas.[15] It is to be noted however that white Americans of French or French-Canadian descent who are not Cajun and whose first and usual language is English are usually considered part of the Anglo group without further distinction.
In the Southwest United States, Anglo, short for Anglo American, is used as a synonym for non-Hispanic Whites; that is, all European Americans (except Latin Americans), most of whom speak the English language but are not necessarily of English descent.[16] If language is taken into consideration the term Anglo-American also excludes Franco-Americans such as the Cajuns of Louisiana, but would include them when language is excluded as a criteria. The term Anglo has been regularly used by mainstream media such as the Los Angeles Times usually in broad reference to non-Hispanic, English-speaking white Americans of European descent.
Some non-Hispanics whites in the United States who speak English but are not of English ancestry do not identify with the term Anglo find the term offensive. For instance, some Cajuns in south Louisiana use the term to refer to area whites who do not have Francophone backgrounds. Irish Americans, the second largest ethnic group in the United States following German-Americans, also sometimes take umbrage at being called Anglo.[17][18]
I love the idea of terms like "not of English ancestry" it is that sort of thinking that got the US into trouble a couple of hundred years ago.
In some parts of the United States Anglo-American is shortened to Anglo and applied to white Americans who are not of Hispanic or Latino origin and sometimes to those who are not of French origin, but this criterion is based on specific linguistic considerations and limited to Louisiana and parts of Texas.[15] It is to be noted however that white Americans of French or French-Canadian descent who are not Cajun and whose first and usual language is English are usually considered part of the Anglo group without further distinction.
In the Southwest United States, Anglo, short for Anglo American, is used as a synonym for non-Hispanic Whites; that is, all European Americans (except Latin Americans), most of whom speak the English language but are not necessarily of English descent.[16] If language is taken into consideration the term Anglo-American also excludes Franco-Americans such as the Cajuns of Louisiana, but would include them when language is excluded as a criteria. The term Anglo has been regularly used by mainstream media such as the Los Angeles Times usually in broad reference to non-Hispanic, English-speaking white Americans of European descent.
Some non-Hispanics whites in the United States who speak English but are not of English ancestry do not identify with the term Anglo find the term offensive. For instance, some Cajuns in south Louisiana use the term to refer to area whites who do not have Francophone backgrounds. Irish Americans, the second largest ethnic group in the United States following German-Americans, also sometimes take umbrage at being called Anglo.[17][18]
I love the idea of terms like "not of English ancestry" it is that sort of thinking that got the US into trouble a couple of hundred years ago.
Jul 21st, 2014, 11:14 AM
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Anglo to me means English - certainly nothing to do with Americans!
Anglo in the context used by the paper does derive from Anglo Saxon; however, it is being used to relate to English speakers in France (angli meaning English, after all! - anglophile and anglophobe eg bilboburgher after his last comment above!
We also have this website for English speaking expats in France-
http://riviera.angloinfo.com/
PS The reason that the colonists (there was no US then), "got into trouble a couple of hundred years ago", was that they were unwilling to pay taxes to the King of Britain that were less than those being paid by British residents. So much for gratitude after saving their butts from the French!
Anglo in the context used by the paper does derive from Anglo Saxon; however, it is being used to relate to English speakers in France (angli meaning English, after all! - anglophile and anglophobe eg bilboburgher after his last comment above!
We also have this website for English speaking expats in France-
http://riviera.angloinfo.com/
PS The reason that the colonists (there was no US then), "got into trouble a couple of hundred years ago", was that they were unwilling to pay taxes to the King of Britain that were less than those being paid by British residents. So much for gratitude after saving their butts from the French!
Jul 21st, 2014, 11:29 AM
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>>Anglo to me means English - certainly nothing to do with Americans!<<
Well that definitely is not what American think. In the US "Anglo" is either what Mexican-Americans/Hispanic-Americans call Caucasian-Non-Hispanic-Americans (enough hyphenating for you?
) . . . or what those Caucasian-Non-Hispanic-Americans call themselves when talking to Latino/Hispanics and trying to be politically correct.
Well that definitely is not what American think. In the US "Anglo" is either what Mexican-Americans/Hispanic-Americans call Caucasian-Non-Hispanic-Americans (enough hyphenating for you?
) . . . or what those Caucasian-Non-Hispanic-Americans call themselves when talking to Latino/Hispanics and trying to be politically correct.
Jul 21st, 2014, 11:36 AM
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=anglo
the Urban Dictionary says of Anglo : "referring to British people and culture" - not Americans though I think many here do not know that - I would think yes comes for Anglo-Saxons.
the Urban Dictionary says of Anglo : "referring to British people and culture" - not Americans though I think many here do not know that - I would think yes comes for Anglo-Saxons.
Jul 21st, 2014, 11:44 AM
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there you go again PQ -- definitive info off the inter web… I defy you to ask ANY of your neighbors in Michigan what "anglo" means and you'll get a different definition
I DO know what Anglo and Anglo Saxon means and where they come from (and don't have to google them to know it).
But for jtpj777 or you to imply that the term has nothing to do w/ Americans and it means 'English' is batty. Different words mean different things in different countries . . .
And this is one very obvious example.
I DO know what Anglo and Anglo Saxon means and where they come from (and don't have to google them to know it).
But for jtpj777 or you to imply that the term has nothing to do w/ Americans and it means 'English' is batty. Different words mean different things in different countries . . .
And this is one very obvious example.
Jul 21st, 2014, 12:14 PM
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From my "French" perspective, "Anglo" is used for anybody from an English speaking culture -- British, Irish, American, Australian, New Zealander. It would not be used for "mixed" cultures like South Africa, Malta, Singapore, etc.
Jul 21st, 2014, 12:27 PM
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there you go again PQ -- definitive info off the inter web… I defy you to ask ANY of your neighbors in Michigan what "anglo" means and you'll get a different definition>
so so what - what did the writers of that article mean coming from where they are coming from - that is the point. Youy pooh pooh the Urban Dictionary whose number one definition of 'anglo' is 'referring to British people or culture' - now for your information the Urban Dictionary uses what real people say and how real people use the word.
As usual you profess to know more than the dictionary or any other 'experts'.
so so what - what did the writers of that article mean coming from where they are coming from - that is the point. Youy pooh pooh the Urban Dictionary whose number one definition of 'anglo' is 'referring to British people or culture' - now for your information the Urban Dictionary uses what real people say and how real people use the word.
As usual you profess to know more than the dictionary or any other 'experts'.
