Dublin to USA: $12! RyanAir Hopes
Mar 29th, 2008, 05:35 AM
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Dublin to USA: $12! RyanAir Hopes
NPR just carried a report from an air travel reporter saying RyanAir is planning, under the recently accorded Open Skies scheme between the US and UK that at least in theory has opened up the lucrative trans-Atlantic route to free competition
that RyanAir is really planning for Dublin to East Coast secondary airports like Providence, Bangor and others fares starting at about $12
(RyanAir pres recently said he could make money flying folks for free - especially if and when they allow on-board gambling at seat video screens)
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Yet British Air and Virgin and major US carriers may somehow block this?
that RyanAir is really planning for Dublin to East Coast secondary airports like Providence, Bangor and others fares starting at about $12
(RyanAir pres recently said he could make money flying folks for free - especially if and when they allow on-board gambling at seat video screens)
Where do i sign up?
Yet British Air and Virgin and major US carriers may somehow block this?
Mar 29th, 2008, 05:51 AM
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How on earth could BA or Virgin influence where or how an Irish airline flies to from Ireland?
Ryanair was pretty effusive about transatlantic operations a year ago - before oil prices went loopy and UK-centric businesses started getting neurotic about credit crunches.
Since then, he's gone totally quiet about this, talking far more about cost-cutting measures to keep his European business going during an aviation industry recession. I suspect the NPR clip was regurgitating something from last year.
Ryanair was pretty effusive about transatlantic operations a year ago - before oil prices went loopy and UK-centric businesses started getting neurotic about credit crunches.
Since then, he's gone totally quiet about this, talking far more about cost-cutting measures to keep his European business going during an aviation industry recession. I suspect the NPR clip was regurgitating something from last year.
Mar 29th, 2008, 06:09 AM
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From the Irish Echo
Direct Aer Lingus flights to and from Dublin and San Francisco, Orlando and Washington, D.C. will use two new Airbus A330 aircraft, which will be delivered in May and June. Washington services are expected to begin in September, with the Orlando and San Francisco schedules starting in October.
Tickets, due to go on sale next week, to Washington from Dublin from €199 ($265) each way, including taxes and charges. Dublin-Orlando will cost from €219 ($291) each way while passengers on the Dublin-San Francisco route will pay from €239 ($318) each way.
Direct Aer Lingus flights to and from Dublin and San Francisco, Orlando and Washington, D.C. will use two new Airbus A330 aircraft, which will be delivered in May and June. Washington services are expected to begin in September, with the Orlando and San Francisco schedules starting in October.
Tickets, due to go on sale next week, to Washington from Dublin from €199 ($265) each way, including taxes and charges. Dublin-Orlando will cost from €219 ($291) each way while passengers on the Dublin-San Francisco route will pay from €239 ($318) each way.
Mar 29th, 2008, 06:11 AM
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You are as usual right and as usual i'm confused
I heard them talking about an accord and i thought it must have been the Open skies, but could not have been unless that accord includes Eire
But anyway i guess he was talking about BAir, Virgin, etc. keeping Heathrow closed because of gate monopoly and this giving RyanAir more a chance
Sorry for the (rare) mistake on my part.
Happy peas pud ole chap - but you should cut out the ham, at your age and all
I heard them talking about an accord and i thought it must have been the Open skies, but could not have been unless that accord includes Eire
But anyway i guess he was talking about BAir, Virgin, etc. keeping Heathrow closed because of gate monopoly and this giving RyanAir more a chance
Sorry for the (rare) mistake on my part.
Happy peas pud ole chap - but you should cut out the ham, at your age and all
Mar 29th, 2008, 06:29 AM
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Open Skies is an EU/US agreement. It applies just as much - in theory - to flights from Ireland (how often have Padraig and I got to tell you? It's IRELAND) as from the UK.
The reason there's more fuss in the UK is that Open Skies didn't just allow any European airline to fly into the US, but also removed the limits on who (if they could afford to buy slots) could fly to Heathrow.
Which, for low-cost flights, is a complete red herring. No budget airline would want to have anything to do with Heathrow.
There are budget transatlantic flights already. Zoom seems to do it OK-ish: there's millions of them from Luton and Gatwick to Florida and flyglobespan made a spectacular lash-up of flights to the US last year, but still flies from the British Isles to Canada.
When the dust has settled, there may be room for another, and a Ryanair subsidiary might do it best. But it'll be out of Luton, Stansted or Dublin.
The reason there's more fuss in the UK is that Open Skies didn't just allow any European airline to fly into the US, but also removed the limits on who (if they could afford to buy slots) could fly to Heathrow.
Which, for low-cost flights, is a complete red herring. No budget airline would want to have anything to do with Heathrow.
There are budget transatlantic flights already. Zoom seems to do it OK-ish: there's millions of them from Luton and Gatwick to Florida and flyglobespan made a spectacular lash-up of flights to the US last year, but still flies from the British Isles to Canada.
When the dust has settled, there may be room for another, and a Ryanair subsidiary might do it best. But it'll be out of Luton, Stansted or Dublin.
Mar 29th, 2008, 07:56 AM
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I guess AA knew what was about to happen and decided to start JFK-STN service few months ago. It's starting to look like a better option, at least for the moment....
OTOH, they pulled out of LGW altogether, so perhaps they really didn't know what was about to happen....
OTOH, they pulled out of LGW altogether, so perhaps they really didn't know what was about to happen....
Mar 30th, 2008, 04:27 AM
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<Eire (how often have Padraig and I got to tell you? It's IRELAND)>
not enough apparently
but perhaps this time it were a typo and should have been:
A- Ire instead of Eire - would have served my purposes better
B- Eireland - nearly the same as Ireland
c- IRAland - we won't go there
d- All of the above
e- Fill in the blank:
not enough apparently
but perhaps this time it were a typo and should have been:
A- Ire instead of Eire - would have served my purposes better
B- Eireland - nearly the same as Ireland
c- IRAland - we won't go there
d- All of the above
e- Fill in the blank:
Mar 30th, 2008, 07:53 AM
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<<< I heard there was tons of room at Heathrow new T-5? >>>
But not on LHR's 98% in use runways
It Ryanair do go Transatlantic it will be something like Knock to Bangor which will be remained London & New York.
In any case, given O'Leary's "problems" with EU rules, Bangor would be the ideal US airport for Ryanair as that's where all the "bad aircraft" are diverted to, so you may as well send Ryanair's flights there to start with
But not on LHR's 98% in use runways
It Ryanair do go Transatlantic it will be something like Knock to Bangor which will be remained London & New York.
In any case, given O'Leary's "problems" with EU rules, Bangor would be the ideal US airport for Ryanair as that's where all the "bad aircraft" are diverted to, so you may as well send Ryanair's flights there to start with
Mar 30th, 2008, 09:00 AM
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Apart from anything else, Heathrow is against Michael O Leary's (loudmouth CEO of Ryanair. But unlike other the other Irish-born CEO of a UK-centric airline, able to organise a piss up in a brewery) religion.
Central to O'Leary's world view is that airports pay him money for the privilege of having Ryanair flights. Central to Heathrow's view is that airlines pay other airlines huge sums for the privilege of flying out of Heathrow (No-one, of course, would pay to fly INTO the place).
Bit like "Clash of the Civilisations". Except that it's just not possible to use "Heathrow" and "civilisation" in the same sentence
Central to O'Leary's world view is that airports pay him money for the privilege of having Ryanair flights. Central to Heathrow's view is that airlines pay other airlines huge sums for the privilege of flying out of Heathrow (No-one, of course, would pay to fly INTO the place).
Bit like "Clash of the Civilisations". Except that it's just not possible to use "Heathrow" and "civilisation" in the same sentence
