Dog moving to france from Hawaii
Nov 26th, 2009, 12:52 PM
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Dog moving to france from Hawaii
I am in desperate need of clear advice. I am moving to France and the state veterinarian at the USDA here in Hawaii says that my dog doesn't have to wait for the three month titre. He says that after the rabies vaccination he can travel to France after 3 weeks. He says we don't have to wait three months to check the rabies titre. I can't bear the thought of my dog being put in quaruntine if he is wrong. Can anyone confirm what is required in moving a dog from US to France? In the EU 998 it states that countries with low incidence of rabies don't have to wait for the titre, only the vaccine and health certificates are required. The US falls in the category of low incidence of rabies. The EU 998 was written in the early 2000's so I am not sure if this has changed or they have increased regulations. PLEASE HELP!! I need to move in December and don't want to leave my dog behind for 3 months but even more so don't want him in quarantine. Thank you!!
Nov 26th, 2009, 02:38 PM
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People in desperate need of clear advice shouldn't look for it on message boards. You should call the French embassy, because laws change without posters knowing it or websites being updated.
Simple Google searches like "bring dog to France rabies" will lead you to some basic information, but you still should confirm with the French government exactly what today's law is.
This is from the Best Western (hotels) website:
"Dogs must be vaccinated against rabies at least 30 days before entering France and the rabies shot must have been given in the last 12 months. A valid rabies vaccination certificate needs to accompany the animal. Also required is a Certificate of Health from a veterinarian within 5 days of any travel date (traveling both to and from France). This means that French residents returning to the France might need to get a Certificate of Health from an international vet if you stay in the foreign country for more than 5 days.
Source: Embassy of France in Washington, D.C., USA"
and look at this website:
http://www.parislogue.com/travel-tip...-to-paris.html
Simple Google searches like "bring dog to France rabies" will lead you to some basic information, but you still should confirm with the French government exactly what today's law is.
This is from the Best Western (hotels) website:
"Dogs must be vaccinated against rabies at least 30 days before entering France and the rabies shot must have been given in the last 12 months. A valid rabies vaccination certificate needs to accompany the animal. Also required is a Certificate of Health from a veterinarian within 5 days of any travel date (traveling both to and from France). This means that French residents returning to the France might need to get a Certificate of Health from an international vet if you stay in the foreign country for more than 5 days.
Source: Embassy of France in Washington, D.C., USA"
and look at this website:
http://www.parislogue.com/travel-tip...-to-paris.html
Nov 26th, 2009, 02:41 PM
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The rules about transporting a dog into France are at the Agriculture Ministry Office of France.
http://agriculture.gouv.fr/sections/...-bien-voyager/
http://agriculture.gouv.fr/sections/...-bien-voyager/
Nov 27th, 2009, 03:26 AM
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1. You do need to check with your nearest French embassy, or with a specialist anumal relocation company, because your American vet seems to have it wrong.
2. It seems almost certain the injection needs to be given at least 30 days before arriving in France. That probably doesn't give you time.
3. EU REgulation 998/2003 is still the key doc, though it's been modified several times since 2003. The current regulation, in English, including the last five years' changes, is at http://ec.europa.eu/food/animal/live...m_third_en.htm). But EU regulations are never the whole story: they always require nations to adminster the principle in the EU regs, and the details of how they're adminstered vary from country to country. And it's the small print in those details (like France's requirement for third-country injections to be 30 days in advance) that always causes the chaos. That's why you should NEVER trust a foreign doctor about the details of EU adminstration: the foreigner isn't the one getting the dog into France. You need a French expert, or a company that gets dogs into France for a living.
4. Assuming you really are out of time,and can't change your own plans, the choice may not be between leaving the dog in Hawaii for ever and putting him into quarantine. It looks as if the dog needs to arrive in France about a week after you - and he's almost certainly going to have to travel in the hold anyway. Can you not arrange for someone the dog's comfortable with to look after him for the week, then deliver him to the relocation co?
2. It seems almost certain the injection needs to be given at least 30 days before arriving in France. That probably doesn't give you time.
3. EU REgulation 998/2003 is still the key doc, though it's been modified several times since 2003. The current regulation, in English, including the last five years' changes, is at http://ec.europa.eu/food/animal/live...m_third_en.htm). But EU regulations are never the whole story: they always require nations to adminster the principle in the EU regs, and the details of how they're adminstered vary from country to country. And it's the small print in those details (like France's requirement for third-country injections to be 30 days in advance) that always causes the chaos. That's why you should NEVER trust a foreign doctor about the details of EU adminstration: the foreigner isn't the one getting the dog into France. You need a French expert, or a company that gets dogs into France for a living.
4. Assuming you really are out of time,and can't change your own plans, the choice may not be between leaving the dog in Hawaii for ever and putting him into quarantine. It looks as if the dog needs to arrive in France about a week after you - and he's almost certainly going to have to travel in the hold anyway. Can you not arrange for someone the dog's comfortable with to look after him for the week, then deliver him to the relocation co?
Nov 27th, 2009, 03:42 AM
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Your dog needs to be chipped or tattooed too. Also you mustn't book a flight which involves the UK.
Certain breeds are not allowed into France.
The US is listed in Part C of Annex II to Regulation (EC) No 998/2003, so you do not need a titre. Unless you are planning on visiting the UK or are going via the UK.
Do find an expert company to move your dog and deal with all the paperwork. It may cost more but will be better for both you and your dog in the long run. You have enough stress to deal with at the moment without adding any extra.
Certain breeds are not allowed into France.
The US is listed in Part C of Annex II to Regulation (EC) No 998/2003, so you do not need a titre. Unless you are planning on visiting the UK or are going via the UK.
Do find an expert company to move your dog and deal with all the paperwork. It may cost more but will be better for both you and your dog in the long run. You have enough stress to deal with at the moment without adding any extra.
Dec 6th, 2009, 06:06 AM
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I just moved from Portland (Oregon) to Paris with my pug - the paperwork was a hassle but it's not difficult to do.
I'm not sure when your flight is, but here's the deal: the dog must be vaccinated 30 days before your trip. If you cannot prove this, your dog will be quarantined, absolutely. if you are planning to leave before rabies vaccination will be considered valid, you should either postpone your trip or leave your dog behind. You cannot risk the dog being quarantined where it will be exposed to other animals that could potentially have contagious health problems.
You're going to need more than the rabbies vaccination though. I wrote a guide on how to take a pet to France here: http://www.ehow.com/how_5447312_bring-pet-france.html
I would call the USDA and find out if you need to have your vet's certification stamped (I did). You'll need to make an appointment to do so, so plan accordingly.
Side note: after getting all of my paperwork together it wasn't even checked once I arrived in France. Do not rely on this though! Also, the paperwork for your dog will only be valid for three months, so if you plan on returning to Hawaii with your dog after that time, you'll need to do all of this again.
Take a look at the link above, that should explain everything. Good luck!
I'm not sure when your flight is, but here's the deal: the dog must be vaccinated 30 days before your trip. If you cannot prove this, your dog will be quarantined, absolutely. if you are planning to leave before rabies vaccination will be considered valid, you should either postpone your trip or leave your dog behind. You cannot risk the dog being quarantined where it will be exposed to other animals that could potentially have contagious health problems.
You're going to need more than the rabbies vaccination though. I wrote a guide on how to take a pet to France here: http://www.ehow.com/how_5447312_bring-pet-france.html
I would call the USDA and find out if you need to have your vet's certification stamped (I did). You'll need to make an appointment to do so, so plan accordingly.
Side note: after getting all of my paperwork together it wasn't even checked once I arrived in France. Do not rely on this though! Also, the paperwork for your dog will only be valid for three months, so if you plan on returning to Hawaii with your dog after that time, you'll need to do all of this again.
Take a look at the link above, that should explain everything. Good luck!
