Go Back  Fodor's Travel Talk Forums > Destinations > Europe
Reload this Page >

Buckfast Abbey Brews Up a Brouhahah!

Search

Buckfast Abbey Brews Up a Brouhahah!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 2nd, 2015, 05:54 AM
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 78,320
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Buckfast Abbey Brews Up a Brouhahah!

If in Devon on the edge of the big moor you can check out the Buckfast Abbey, where since the 1880s monks that came from France have been brewing up some potent wine concoction but with loads of caffeine in it - the brew has become the rage with younger folk in places like Scotland where officials are considering banning it for having too much caffeine - like our alcoholic energy drinks (seems like an oxymoron!).

I enjoyed visiting Buckfast Abbey a few years back - nice tour and nice if not ancient abbey.
PalenQ is offline  
Old Jun 2nd, 2015, 05:54 AM
  #2  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 78,320
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/02/wo...wine.html?_r=0

Oops link to today's article in the New York Times!
PalenQ is offline  
Old Jun 2nd, 2015, 07:45 AM
  #3  
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,934
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Pal

This news is not news.

It was news around 10 years ago.

The NYT appears to be very slow today.
BritishCaicos is offline  
Old Jun 2nd, 2015, 07:48 AM
  #4  
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 72,757
Likes: 0
Received 50 Likes on 7 Posts
PQ: You need to get your nose out of the nyt and actually go to the UK once in a while. Most of the nyt travel articles you link here are either naff, out of date, or flat wrong.
janisj is online now  
Old Jun 2nd, 2015, 08:14 AM
  #5  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 78,320
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It may be old news to Brits but I write for Americans not Brits nor wannabe Brits and Americans may find it interesting and put the abbey into their western England itineraries - so I think it is relevant for that reason - cheers janis!
PalenQ is offline  
Old Jun 2nd, 2015, 08:48 AM
  #6  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,585
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Surely Americans don't want stale news. I can't really imagine that they'd be particularly interested in Scottish yobbos abusing tonic wine.
MissPrism is offline  
Old Jun 2nd, 2015, 08:53 AM
  #7  
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 9,171
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Buckie tonic wine. No thanks. NYT has great travel articles IMO. The one on Belfast recently was good for our trip. Between that and TA people.
flpab is offline  
Old Jun 2nd, 2015, 08:54 AM
  #8  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,920
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
>>Surely Americans don't want stale news. I can't really imagine that they'd be particularly interested in Scottish yobbos abusing tonic wine.<<

Unless of course the spring break phenomenon shifts from Florida to Buckfast. That might amuse the monks.....
PatrickLondon is offline  
Old Jun 2nd, 2015, 08:59 AM
  #9  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 78,320
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Surely Americans don't want stale news. I can't really imagine that they'd be particularly interested in Scottish yobbos abusing tonic wine.>

Seems like the foks at the NY Times feel differently to make it a featured article in the front section.

Again I mentioned it mainly because of folks may want to visit the place not necessarily because of the news angle. Wrap your heads around that IF possible instead of sniping...

janis - what do you think of Buckfast Abbey - is it worthy of your blessings or not - what does Fodor's foremost British travel expert have to say about Buckfast - worth a detour or not?
PalenQ is offline  
Old Jun 2nd, 2015, 12:25 PM
  #10  
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,934
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think the big billing that the NYT gives this article proves what a provincial rag it is.

Ducks down ready for another volley from the "we love our NYC" brigade.
BritishCaicos is offline  
Old Jun 2nd, 2015, 12:35 PM
  #11  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 78,320
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
http://www.slate.com/blogs/atlas_obs...igan_wine.html

Well Slate is a litle slow on the uptick too - but again I mention it as travel info - a neat place where one may want to stop by when going into the Devon Moor and also stock up on a unique booze that for eons never raised a stir.
PalenQ is offline  
Old Jun 2nd, 2015, 12:39 PM
  #12  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 78,320
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
http://archynews.com/buckfast-journa...-and-scrutiny/

archynews just posted this a day before the NYTimes

Even THE GUARDIAN was about nine years too late with the news

http://www.theguardian.com/society/s...-west-scotland

For some reason it is currently hitting the rounds so NYTimes ain't the only news turtle.
PalenQ is offline  
Old Jun 2nd, 2015, 09:17 PM
  #13  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 17,268
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
"what does Fodor's foremost British travel expert have to say about Buckfast - worth a detour or not?"

Don't know about janisj. But IMHO, Buckfast is terrific if you're in Devon and want a properly sung Sunday Mass, or an alternative in the late afternoon to the (also excellent) Evensong at Exeter cathedral. Good lay choir, boosting the rather tiny number of monks, in an area where there's not that much decent music around.

But that's about it. The church is a standard Victorian pastiche (think almost any cathedral on America's east coast): the abbey complex is pleasant enough - but the area's swarming with National Trust properties offering the same mix of nice gardens, gift shops, tea rooms and rural quiet - and they've all got an interesting house at their centre.

Like most working abbeys these days, Buckfast is fine for retreats, conferences or concerts - but underwhelming as a tourist attraction. And Devon's rich enough in footpaths that you really don't need to go out of your way to spend a few hours meandering around lovely countryside.

The site was first established by the Benedictines around 1000 AD, then taken over by the Cistercians who more or less invented Britain's commercial wool industry. 500 years later, the Prod fundamentalists did their standard fanatical destruction and theft routine, and the ancient buildings were almost entirely razed (to build a nice new house) around 1800

Virtually all Buckfast's current buildings date from after the late 19th century, when Benedictines returned. Buckfast's unusual (I think unique, but I've a feeling there's an abbey in Scotland with a similar history) among modern British abbeys in being both on the site of a Saxon predecessor and run by the monastic order which originally founded it. But there are a few dozen other abbeys tucked away around the country.

Mrs F and the Flannerpooch dropped me off for Mass there a year or two back. By the time (an hour later) they came to pick me up, they'd completely run out of things to see or do.
flanneruk is offline  
Old Jun 3rd, 2015, 12:51 AM
  #14  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,585
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Caldey Island off Pembrokeshire is worth a visit. It's Cistercians again and the present abbey is fairly modern. The monks go in for dairy farming and make chocolate and perfumes.
MissPrism is offline  
Old Jun 3rd, 2015, 12:55 AM
  #15  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,585
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Here you go http://www.caldey-island.co.uk
There's plenty of interest of there apart from the Abbey
MissPrism is offline  
Old Jun 3rd, 2015, 04:56 AM
  #16  
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,046
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
If you've ever tasted their tonic Wine, my sympathies. It's quite good for degreasing your oven.
Rubicund is offline  
Old Jun 3rd, 2015, 11:24 AM
  #17  
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 7,584
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Do you think we will ever see Pal on the cover of Vanity Fair kitted out like Lady Bracknell?


Thin, earnest
Pepper_von_snoot is offline  
Old Jun 3rd, 2015, 11:47 AM
  #18  
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,934
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Over-dressed, yes.

Over-educated, mmmm.
BritishCaicos is offline  
Old Jun 3rd, 2015, 12:12 PM
  #19  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 78,320
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Who the H is Lady Bracknell? How much do they pay for a cover shot? Could be enticing but I think slightly obese old farts are not much in demand?

https://www.google.com/search?q=lady...=1600&bih=1075

Umh - not much in my closet to fill the bill it seems!
PalenQ is offline  
Old Jun 3rd, 2015, 05:30 PM
  #20  
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 7,584
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
You can't possibly remain moderator of Euro Potpourri if you don't know who Lady Bracknell is.

And whoever compiled those Google photos of Lady Bracknell should be horsewhipped!

The photo of Judy Dench wearing a black gown and sitting on a green damask sofa is not a depiction of Lady Bracknell!

That is a photo of Judy portraying Lady Catherine de Bourgh!

Outrage! Outrage!


Thin
Pepper_von_snoot is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Original Poster
Forum
Replies
Last Post
PalenQ
Europe
42
Dec 22nd, 2016 05:05 AM
Julietancock
Air Travel
23
Oct 3rd, 2009 11:12 AM
chair911
Europe
9
Aug 4th, 2009 01:38 AM
hansikday
Europe
6
Jan 6th, 2004 06:07 PM
jeff lewis
Europe
15
Oct 18th, 2002 12:44 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -