Brussels to Frankfurt in 6 days with car?
Aug 6th, 2014, 09:31 AM
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Brussels to Frankfurt in 6 days with car?
Just weeks away from Euro14 trip!!
Fly into Brussels (from Athens) on a Monday and fly out of Frankfurt on Saturday afternoon.
For those who have been, what would be your preferred itinerary over the 5 nights?
Have the car rented from Brussels with a return to Frankfurt.
Thanks in advance for your time!
Fly into Brussels (from Athens) on a Monday and fly out of Frankfurt on Saturday afternoon.
For those who have been, what would be your preferred itinerary over the 5 nights?
Have the car rented from Brussels with a return to Frankfurt.
Thanks in advance for your time!
Aug 6th, 2014, 11:09 AM
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One really sweet route IME would be to go thru the Ardennes (Bastogne-Sap would make nice stops - the first for WW I Battle of the Bulge stuff; the latter a famous watering hole and home of spa mineral water)
Then head to Luxemburg City, one of Europe's most gorgeous capitals with a deep wide gorge bisecting it - otherwise not too much there but makes a nice short stop en route to Trier and the Mosel Valley.
Trier has a lot of Roman relics - the finest north of the Alps to many - the Porta Negra or Black Gate built in Roman times and a Roman theatre and a Roman temple converted eons ago into a Christian basilica. Trier is one of the oldest continuing in existence cities in Europe - there is also the Karl Marx House where the economist/philosopher lived and is a now a Marx museum and study center. Ruined castles loom high above the valley.
Then the gorgeous Mosel Valley takes hold - you twist along this sinuously turn and twisting between slopes about a thousand feet high, at many placed covered with vineyards - lots of small wine towns and wineries dot the route, which always hugs the river.
Bernkastle-Kues is the first of several really cute larger towns - Cochem miles downstream is an absolute gem - a picture-postcard wine town with a pristine castle of its own topping a vineyard carpeted hill right in the town itself.
Cochem makes a great base - nearby is the best of the Rhine Gorge - a short drive over the hills to the Bingen/St Goar area - drive thru the Rhine Gorge with again lots of cutesy towns and Frankfurt is not far up river from here.
6 days about perfect for this all and nearly scenic the whole way - the Mosel Valley to me is one of the very cutest in Europe - much prettier than the Rhine Gorge to many, nice as that is.
Then head to Luxemburg City, one of Europe's most gorgeous capitals with a deep wide gorge bisecting it - otherwise not too much there but makes a nice short stop en route to Trier and the Mosel Valley.
Trier has a lot of Roman relics - the finest north of the Alps to many - the Porta Negra or Black Gate built in Roman times and a Roman theatre and a Roman temple converted eons ago into a Christian basilica. Trier is one of the oldest continuing in existence cities in Europe - there is also the Karl Marx House where the economist/philosopher lived and is a now a Marx museum and study center. Ruined castles loom high above the valley.
Then the gorgeous Mosel Valley takes hold - you twist along this sinuously turn and twisting between slopes about a thousand feet high, at many placed covered with vineyards - lots of small wine towns and wineries dot the route, which always hugs the river.
Bernkastle-Kues is the first of several really cute larger towns - Cochem miles downstream is an absolute gem - a picture-postcard wine town with a pristine castle of its own topping a vineyard carpeted hill right in the town itself.
Cochem makes a great base - nearby is the best of the Rhine Gorge - a short drive over the hills to the Bingen/St Goar area - drive thru the Rhine Gorge with again lots of cutesy towns and Frankfurt is not far up river from here.
6 days about perfect for this all and nearly scenic the whole way - the Mosel Valley to me is one of the very cutest in Europe - much prettier than the Rhine Gorge to many, nice as that is.
Aug 6th, 2014, 03:01 PM
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I would probably make my first stop Dinant, which is a very picturesque gateway into the Ardennes. Near Dinant is Freÿr (a pretty fancy castle). There is also kayaking from Houyet to Anseremme. If you are roughly following the A4, then you might also stop in Rochefort (Rochefort Brewery, caves at Han-sur-Lesse, castle ruins), and then in Redu-Transinne, which is 2 little towns; Redu is a book village and Transinne is the home of the Euro Space Centre. You could then take the A4 directly to Luxembourg. There are other towns I could suggest but they deviate from the direct path to Luxembourg City.
Luxembourg City is quite pretty, and you will find enough to do there for a day (casemates, walks down into the valley of the old town, very good food).
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Luxembourg City is quite pretty, and you will find enough to do there for a day (casemates, walks down into the valley of the old town, very good food).
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Aug 6th, 2014, 07:34 PM
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<i>Brussels to Frankfurt in 6 days with car?
Posted by: Masterphil on Aug 6, 14 at 1:31pm
Just weeks away from Euro14 trip!!
Fly into Brussels (from Athens) on a Monday and fly out of Frankfurt on Saturday afternoon.
For those who have been, what would be your preferred itinerary over the 5 nights?</i>
Looks like you've asked this question in three or four posts recently. Just what do you feel like seeing and doing? Do you want to go to an opera or a nude beach or what?
Posted by: Masterphil on Aug 6, 14 at 1:31pm
Just weeks away from Euro14 trip!!
Fly into Brussels (from Athens) on a Monday and fly out of Frankfurt on Saturday afternoon.
For those who have been, what would be your preferred itinerary over the 5 nights?</i>
Looks like you've asked this question in three or four posts recently. Just what do you feel like seeing and doing? Do you want to go to an opera or a nude beach or what?
Aug 7th, 2014, 06:55 AM
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spaarne - I guess I was looking for the info that PalenQ and lavandula provided! Thank you guys!!!
PalenQ - that was one of my options! I think you just sealed the deal with an absolutely wonderful post! (I could almost picture myself there while reading)
spaarne - thanks for keeping score, playing forum cop and providing no pertinent information whatsoever.
PalenQ - that was one of my options! I think you just sealed the deal with an absolutely wonderful post! (I could almost picture myself there while reading)
spaarne - thanks for keeping score, playing forum cop and providing no pertinent information whatsoever.
Aug 7th, 2014, 10:56 AM
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Thanks Masterphil!
Since your plane flies out of Frankfurt on a Saturday afternoon you could easily drive from Cochem to the airport in a few hours or if you want to base on the Rhine, like in St Goar, Boppard, etc you will be even closer.
You could even drive up the Rhine that morning and see the major sights - there is not much in any of the towns worth really stopping for except to enjoy their nice old town centers, visit a car or two, etc. But better IMO to spend a whole day driving up and down the Rhine - it's a fairly short stretch, the Rhine Gorge that is - hitting Marksburg Castle, the only one on this part of the Rhine not to have been destroyed in wars thru the eons and have lunch in one of the nice towns, etc.
And yes I agree with lavandula Dinant is a nice city in a naturally gorgeous area - Namur is not bad either for a few-hour or overnight stop.
Since your plane flies out of Frankfurt on a Saturday afternoon you could easily drive from Cochem to the airport in a few hours or if you want to base on the Rhine, like in St Goar, Boppard, etc you will be even closer.
You could even drive up the Rhine that morning and see the major sights - there is not much in any of the towns worth really stopping for except to enjoy their nice old town centers, visit a car or two, etc. But better IMO to spend a whole day driving up and down the Rhine - it's a fairly short stretch, the Rhine Gorge that is - hitting Marksburg Castle, the only one on this part of the Rhine not to have been destroyed in wars thru the eons and have lunch in one of the nice towns, etc.
And yes I agree with lavandula Dinant is a nice city in a naturally gorgeous area - Namur is not bad either for a few-hour or overnight stop.
Aug 7th, 2014, 03:22 PM
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the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg is a small 'country' but one that is bucolic in places and offers stately castles and nice towns - you may want to explore some off-the-beaten-path places that foreigners rarely do - spend a day in Clervaux or other gems in the Grand Duchy outside of to me a rather boring but beautiful Luxembourg City.
At Hamm just southeast of Luxembourg City is the Hamm U.S. Military Cemetery where many WW2 GIs are buried - and at least one big brass - Gen Blood and Guts Patton whose was killed in Luxembourg in a Jeep accident shortly after the war's end I believe. Very close to Findel 'International' Airport.
At Hamm just southeast of Luxembourg City is the Hamm U.S. Military Cemetery where many WW2 GIs are buried - and at least one big brass - Gen Blood and Guts Patton whose was killed in Luxembourg in a Jeep accident shortly after the war's end I believe. Very close to Findel 'International' Airport.
Aug 7th, 2014, 06:57 PM
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PalenQ...Thanks again!
Saw a pretty cool looking hotel in Namur, so thinking about staying there for the night.
Driving to FRA from Cochem on a Saturday morning should be simple.
Thank you for the wonderful itinerary!
i owe you!
Saw a pretty cool looking hotel in Namur, so thinking about staying there for the night.
Driving to FRA from Cochem on a Saturday morning should be simple.
Thank you for the wonderful itinerary!
i owe you!
Aug 7th, 2014, 08:16 PM
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<i>Masterphil on Aug 7, 14 at 10:55am
spaarne - thanks for keeping score, playing forum cop and providing no pertinent information whatsoever.</i>
LOL. You are welcome. But actually Fodor's keeps score. Click your name to see all of your felonies. Lucky for you that Pal can read your mind. My suggestions would have been much different.
spaarne - thanks for keeping score, playing forum cop and providing no pertinent information whatsoever.
</i>LOL. You are welcome. But actually Fodor's keeps score. Click your name to see all of your felonies. Lucky for you that Pal can read your mind. My suggestions would have been much different.
Aug 8th, 2014, 08:24 AM
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spaarne - "felonies?" I asked the question(s) awhile ago. Didn't get much of a response. Thought I would give it one more try right before the trip. It worked!
People helping others is what this forum is all about. Not sure why the word "felony" would even be raised? I've noticed there are some on here who worry to much about petty things.
Not saying that is you, but can't figure out why you would respond that way after two wonderfully informative posts prior to yours (that I found to be super helpful!)
I'm sure you are a wonderful person! (I would still be interested in your thoughts) Too much information is never a bad thing in my opinion.
Stay well!!
I promise I won't ask my question again! haha
People helping others is what this forum is all about. Not sure why the word "felony" would even be raised? I've noticed there are some on here who worry to much about petty things.
Not saying that is you, but can't figure out why you would respond that way after two wonderfully informative posts prior to yours (that I found to be super helpful!)
I'm sure you are a wonderful person! (I would still be interested in your thoughts) Too much information is never a bad thing in my opinion.
Stay well!!
I promise I won't ask my question again! haha
Aug 8th, 2014, 09:54 AM
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I'm sure you are a wonderful person! (I would still be interested in your thoughts) Too much information is never a bad thing in my opinion>
I will vouch for spaarne usually being a wonderful resource on Fodor's - for trains and the Netherlands travel in particular!
I will vouch for spaarne usually being a wonderful resource on Fodor's - for trains and the Netherlands travel in particular!
Aug 13th, 2014, 11:56 AM
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My suggestions would have been much different.>
Now that we're all friends I would be interested in what other routes you would recommend? (Spaarne is a wealth of info on Belgium and Holland IME). The one I outlined is I think the most direct route and none can be more scenic.
Now that we're all friends I would be interested in what other routes you would recommend? (Spaarne is a wealth of info on Belgium and Holland IME). The one I outlined is I think the most direct route and none can be more scenic.
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Apparently I'm in a minority, but I never liked Dinant. Grey and grim is how I view it. And I wasn't that crazy about Namur either (our former dog groomer lives between Liege and Namur and we used to kick our heels in town for a few hours while Raisin was being made even more beautiful).
I do recommend a stop at Les Jardins d'Annevoie http://www.annevoie.be/
"Bastogne-Sap": just a note that the town is called Spa, not Sap.
I do recommend a stop at Les Jardins d'Annevoie http://www.annevoie.be/
"Bastogne-Sap": just a note that the town is called Spa, not Sap.
Aug 14th, 2014, 10:35 AM
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Brussels to Berlin. Two nights in Berlin (Hotel Aida)
Nice area, easy parking, good and cheap Vietnamese restaurant.
Berlin to Krakow. Two nights in Krakow.(Best Western Old Town)
Easy parking, walk to everything.
Recommended restaurant: Chata on Krowodorska, great food about $12 for two, with beer.
Leave Krakow early morning, you will have tome to visit Auschwitz-Birkenau. Drive to Bad Hersfeld, stay at the Sleep and Go. Easy drive to FRA in the morning.
Mark.
Nice area, easy parking, good and cheap Vietnamese restaurant.
Berlin to Krakow. Two nights in Krakow.(Best Western Old Town)
Easy parking, walk to everything.
Recommended restaurant: Chata on Krowodorska, great food about $12 for two, with beer.
Leave Krakow early morning, you will have tome to visit Auschwitz-Birkenau. Drive to Bad Hersfeld, stay at the Sleep and Go. Easy drive to FRA in the morning.
Mark.
