Linda

Hi, we're advised at various hotels that triple rooms are around 15 m2. Is that pretty small?

Christina

I think it's a little small for a triple, but it's not horrible. A meter is a little over a yard -- to convert to sq ft, you multiply by 10 and round up a little, so 15 m2 is about 160 sq ft+. That's about a 12x14 room.

Linda

Thanks Christina-really don't understand metric measurements. Thanks for explaining it. And I will try to look for a larger triple room if I can find one to match our budget.

Al Godon

Egads, but aren't we the computing wizards, stumbling over metric measurements and seemingly simple, grade school arithmetic.<BR><BR>A 15 square meter room is about 137.54 square feet, considerably less on a percentage basis than 160 square feet.<BR>(15% less) When space is already tight, it is a lot. <BR> <BR>Those 23 square feet are huge when looking at a small hotel room already full of narrow beds and a couple of chairs. How are you at hurdling from a standing start?<BR><BR>The calculations are by no means black magic. 1 meter = 3.02808 feet, approximately.<BR>A 15 sm room could be 3m x 5m or 4m x 3.75m meters or several other logical combinations.<BR><BR>A 4 x 3.75 room is therefore<BR>12 feet, 1 inch in round numbers, by<BR>11 feet 4 inches. That comes out to<BR>137.54 square feet, which is a little small for 3 people.<BR><BR>Here is how. <BR>(3.0 x 3.02808)x(5 x 3.02808) = 137.539 sq feet. Or (15 x (3.02808^2))<BR>yields the same results.<BR>If one can assume that in logical precedence exponentiation is done first, followed by multiplication, the parentheses are not needed.<BR><BR>And before any of you anti intellectuals chime in trying to blast me, bear in mind that the son of a friend of mine who is in the 6th grade did the calculations in about 20 seconds, with a calculator of course.<BR><BR>

Bob Brown

Yep, 15 square meters is small.<BR>You will also in all probability have a wardrobe box to hold your clothes sitting in the room with you. Add a small dresser, a heat radiator that sticks out in the room, and a couple of chairs, and you have limited floor space, very limited.<BR>I know Paris hotel rooms are small, but that one for 3 people gets down to tiny.<BR><BR>Does the room have a separate bath room along with it?

Billyb

I wasn't very good at math. I punched in all of Professor Al's numbers in my calculator and the answer that I came up with = &quot;Shoebox&quot;

Linda

Al, please, a simple answer would have sufficed. I realize it's been years since I've been in math class.

Christina

The last I heard, a meter, the base of the metric system, is 39.37 inches which is 3.28 feet (NOT 3.028). One square meter is thus 10.76 sq ft, which is why you can multiply by 10 and round up a little. 15 m2 is 15x10.76 which rounds to 161.4 sq ft, very close to my estimate. I stand by my comments.<BR><BR>Sometimes sixth graders who punch numbers into calculators without understanding are wrong, and it helps to know how big a meter is (upon which one might realize it isn't only 3 pct of a foot over a yard, which would be less than 37 inches). <BR><BR>Thanks for your assessment of my math abilities, Al, my graduate profs who awarded me a master's in statistics at UCLA obviously were not intellectuals.<BR>

sally

You go, Christina!!

MathWhiz

&quot;The calculations are by no means black magic. 1 meter = 3.02808 feet, approximately.&quot; <BR><BR>Most sixth graders could do better than to approximate 3.28 as 3.028, Al.

xxx

So far no answer from smart Al.

Sue

G.I.G.O. : - )

Julie

Good for you Christina. Its amazing that Al could write such a condescending response without even understanding that his basic conversion was wrong. Hilarious stuff!

MadeForEachOther

I'm not sure which is worse - being so insecure that you feel compelled to announce detailed information about your post graduate education on a message board, or needing a 6th grader to do your math for you.<BR><BR>Al and Christina sound like a match made in heaven.

xxxxx

Now I thought Christina should be matched up with Rex. They both do well in self promotion.

math

OK.<BR>So somebody drops a decimal place and everybody goes nutso.<BR><BR>It dont take a genius to figur this room is small.

xxx

No, it really &quot;It dont take a genius to figur&quot; do it, math prof?

lynlor

In the Novotel Guide, it states that each room is a full 24 to 25m2. These rooms are utilitarian and not large. I have stayed in several Novotels and find them rather cramped for two people.