Ideal 1 week itinerary for the Avalon Peninsula?
Jun 22nd, 2004, 04:13 AM
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Ideal 1 week itinerary for the Avalon Peninsula?
My sister and I are planning a spur of the moment trip to Newfoundland together and are just quickly getting airline tickets and picking locations. We have one week, flying in, very late, to St. John's on August 4th and departing very early on August 11th leaving 6 full days of sightseeing.
Our preliminary reading of suggestions led us to believe that we could only, reaonably do the Eastern part of Newfoundland Island so we are not even going to attempt to visit the Gros Morne area at all. We will have a rental car.
If we stay on the Avalon Peninsula how does the following itinerary sound?
Nights of Aug 4,5 and 6 in St. Johns and explore the city.
Nights of Aug 7 and 8 stay in the Trepassy area or Placentia and see Cape Race, Cape Freels and Cape Mary en route or during the day.
Aug 9 stay near Terra Nova and explore the Park.
Aug 10th drive back to St. Johns, arriving late in the day and stay at an airport hotel to catch an early flight out on Aug 11th.
Suggestions? We coulde, possibly add one more night if you think it makes a big difference.
Thank you in advance!
Maria
Our preliminary reading of suggestions led us to believe that we could only, reaonably do the Eastern part of Newfoundland Island so we are not even going to attempt to visit the Gros Morne area at all. We will have a rental car.
If we stay on the Avalon Peninsula how does the following itinerary sound?
Nights of Aug 4,5 and 6 in St. Johns and explore the city.
Nights of Aug 7 and 8 stay in the Trepassy area or Placentia and see Cape Race, Cape Freels and Cape Mary en route or during the day.
Aug 9 stay near Terra Nova and explore the Park.
Aug 10th drive back to St. Johns, arriving late in the day and stay at an airport hotel to catch an early flight out on Aug 11th.
Suggestions? We coulde, possibly add one more night if you think it makes a big difference.
Thank you in advance!
Maria
Jun 22nd, 2004, 04:16 AM
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One more thing, we are very interested in hiking, historical sights, museums, and scenic drives and walks. We are not big shoppers. Any suggestions for hikes, and special sights would be welcome. Also suggestions fo, accomodations, not luxury, not dirt cheap and interesting local restaurants would be welcome, as well.
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Jun 22nd, 2004, 07:18 AM
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Hi Maria - If it was me I would focus on St John's and the Avalon Pennisula. I wouldn't bother driving out to Terra Nova. You would tie many hours driving and wouldn't have time to do the park justice.
I think time in St. John's makes sense. You can spend a day walking up Signal Hill, watching whales, hike over the hill to Quidi Vidi and stop at the Geo Center which is great. There are some great walking tours in the town, so that could be fun. Your second day in St. John's you can drive out to Cape Spear. You can spend a whole day there especially if you like to hike. While in St. John's you may want to consider staying at one of the b&bs on Gower Street. You could walk everywhere in town (but not to Cape Spear) from there.
Speaking of hiking - while in St. John's get maps of the East Coast Trail. It is an incredible trail system that runs down the coast. I think Trepassey is a good base. While at Cape Race go to Mistaken Point. There is great walking to fossil beds. If you stop at the info center before the turnoff they can tell you how to get to beds.
Instead of staying in Trepassy you may want to consider staying in the Ferryland area or a bit south of there. That will keep you centralized for doing some hiking on the ECT. Or if you eliminate Terra Nova you could spend two nights in Ferryland and then the remainder in Trepassey or perhaps your last one out at St. Brides near Cape St. Mary. Placentia is nice but I wouldn't focus time there as a base.
Hope this helps!
I think time in St. John's makes sense. You can spend a day walking up Signal Hill, watching whales, hike over the hill to Quidi Vidi and stop at the Geo Center which is great. There are some great walking tours in the town, so that could be fun. Your second day in St. John's you can drive out to Cape Spear. You can spend a whole day there especially if you like to hike. While in St. John's you may want to consider staying at one of the b&bs on Gower Street. You could walk everywhere in town (but not to Cape Spear) from there.
Speaking of hiking - while in St. John's get maps of the East Coast Trail. It is an incredible trail system that runs down the coast. I think Trepassey is a good base. While at Cape Race go to Mistaken Point. There is great walking to fossil beds. If you stop at the info center before the turnoff they can tell you how to get to beds.
Instead of staying in Trepassy you may want to consider staying in the Ferryland area or a bit south of there. That will keep you centralized for doing some hiking on the ECT. Or if you eliminate Terra Nova you could spend two nights in Ferryland and then the remainder in Trepassey or perhaps your last one out at St. Brides near Cape St. Mary. Placentia is nice but I wouldn't focus time there as a base.
Hope this helps!
Jun 22nd, 2004, 08:05 AM
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I also would not make the drive to Terra Nova for only one day. Should you decide to extend your stay to include this area, however,the town of Trinity is a good stop, and you can continue to Bonavista. I remember doing a very interesting hike to a movieset and an abandoned village somewhere nearby. The name escapes me.
While in Treppassy, ask about the caribou herds that frequent the area. Near St.Stephan's/Peter's River, I believe. The Ferryland dig site founded by Lord Baltimore is a fascinating stop. Witless Bay offers excellent whalewatching. In Witless Bay {a short drive from Ferryland}, I highly recommend Elaine's bandb, if it's still open. Right on the water. You can see whales from their bay windows, and they used to offer zodiak tours.
Signal Hill is a great walk from downtown St. John's.The Geocenter is extremely interesting. We wanted to do the under 2 mile North Head loop that leads over sea ledges and through the Battery neighborhood of St. John's, but a storm suddenly came in. It sounds like a good short hike.
If you can, try to get a hold of "A Hiking Guide to The National and Historic Sites of Newfoundland", by Barbara Maryniak. I don't know if it's ever been outdated, but we found it invaluable as a hiking guide, chock full of history, and a handy size to stick in a backpack.
Much as we liked the Eastern portion of Newfoundland, Gros Morne was our very favorite - try to visit someday if you can!
While in Treppassy, ask about the caribou herds that frequent the area. Near St.Stephan's/Peter's River, I believe. The Ferryland dig site founded by Lord Baltimore is a fascinating stop. Witless Bay offers excellent whalewatching. In Witless Bay {a short drive from Ferryland}, I highly recommend Elaine's bandb, if it's still open. Right on the water. You can see whales from their bay windows, and they used to offer zodiak tours.
Signal Hill is a great walk from downtown St. John's.The Geocenter is extremely interesting. We wanted to do the under 2 mile North Head loop that leads over sea ledges and through the Battery neighborhood of St. John's, but a storm suddenly came in. It sounds like a good short hike.
If you can, try to get a hold of "A Hiking Guide to The National and Historic Sites of Newfoundland", by Barbara Maryniak. I don't know if it's ever been outdated, but we found it invaluable as a hiking guide, chock full of history, and a handy size to stick in a backpack.
Much as we liked the Eastern portion of Newfoundland, Gros Morne was our very favorite - try to visit someday if you can!
Jun 22nd, 2004, 04:54 PM
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Maria, Do send for a copy of the travel Guide from Newfoundland tourism. It is a great source of info....and we relied on it alot.
I would cut short a night in St.John's and stay down around Ferryland or Witless Bay.
In St. John's we stayed at a really great B&B called The Roses. It is in a great location within walking distance of the city centre and also within walking distance of the hiking trail that goes up through the Battery to Signal Hill....a beautiful hike.
At Aquaforte, near Ferry land we stayed at Hagan's HOspitality B&B. ...true Newfoundland hospitality! Rita was wonderful and you won't leave hungry! Part of the East Coast Trail goes right by her place. YOu could stay there and do a hike in the area.
Also, try and do the hike out to the remains of the village of LaManche. Outstanding scenery!!
ON the road out to Cape Spear, do take the road down to Petty Cove.
Oh so many wonderful things to do!!
Be sure to take the small road to Cape Pine in search of cariboo.
Have a great time.
I would cut short a night in St.John's and stay down around Ferryland or Witless Bay.
In St. John's we stayed at a really great B&B called The Roses. It is in a great location within walking distance of the city centre and also within walking distance of the hiking trail that goes up through the Battery to Signal Hill....a beautiful hike.
At Aquaforte, near Ferry land we stayed at Hagan's HOspitality B&B. ...true Newfoundland hospitality! Rita was wonderful and you won't leave hungry! Part of the East Coast Trail goes right by her place. YOu could stay there and do a hike in the area.
Also, try and do the hike out to the remains of the village of LaManche. Outstanding scenery!!
ON the road out to Cape Spear, do take the road down to Petty Cove.
Oh so many wonderful things to do!!
Be sure to take the small road to Cape Pine in search of cariboo.
Have a great time.
Jun 23rd, 2004, 01:56 PM
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Maria, my husband and I had six days last summer to see Newfoundland. I wanted to see both the Gros Morne and the Avalon penisula, so we split the time and flew between the coasts. I am glad we did. We enjoyed the O'Brien cruise of the bay the most and suggest you might want to do that. We also had time to go to Signal Hill, Cape Spear and tour the Geocenter. We got stuck in St. John first because of airplane trouble and then due to the power outage.
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Jun 24th, 2004, 04:36 PM
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Hi Maria:
Nothing better than spur of the moment plans especially in Newfoundland. I am partial to the Avalon because I live here. The Royal St. John's Regatta (or regretta if you stay in the beer tent too long)at Quidi Vidi - park the car and walk down to the lake runs all day August 4 until the sun sets, if it is raining it runs the next fine day (evident how fickle the weather is here). Excellent races with great competitors and lots of games. Sort of like an old fashioned fair. The George Street Festival July 29 to August 4, will be in full swing around that time, great music, lots of pubs to visit not to be missed. Just after is the Folk Festival at Bannerman Park, (not sure of the dates) fabulous folk music, crafts, bring a blanket, jacket, or your dancing feet. I don't know who is featured this year but in the past a visit by Great Big Sea, the Masterless Men, Connamara, Irish Decendants, etc. Take in the Haunted Walk or the Pirates at the Pier around the town just ask around for times - someone will tell you. In St. John's Oh What a View Bed and Breakfast has received rave reviews because they serve an old fashioned Newfoundland breakfast, something that will stick to your ribs for the better part of the day. The name reflects the panoramic views, its breathtaking and reasonably priced. Velma's restaurant had fire damage which was a great place for Newfoundland food, however, I found out recently that the Stonehouse on Kenna's Hill is serving Salt Beef and Cabbage on either Wednesdays or Thursdays. Call ahead. We do have some nice restaurants but make reservations. All the other suggestions are great but maybe a short day trip to Harbour Grace and Carbonear on the Conception Bay Highway is a little different, visit Brigus home of Captain Bob Bartlett - Arctic Explorer and enjoy the harbour view - one of the best around. Harbour Grace has a few nice museums too! Have fun.
Denise
Nothing better than spur of the moment plans especially in Newfoundland. I am partial to the Avalon because I live here. The Royal St. John's Regatta (or regretta if you stay in the beer tent too long)at Quidi Vidi - park the car and walk down to the lake runs all day August 4 until the sun sets, if it is raining it runs the next fine day (evident how fickle the weather is here). Excellent races with great competitors and lots of games. Sort of like an old fashioned fair. The George Street Festival July 29 to August 4, will be in full swing around that time, great music, lots of pubs to visit not to be missed. Just after is the Folk Festival at Bannerman Park, (not sure of the dates) fabulous folk music, crafts, bring a blanket, jacket, or your dancing feet. I don't know who is featured this year but in the past a visit by Great Big Sea, the Masterless Men, Connamara, Irish Decendants, etc. Take in the Haunted Walk or the Pirates at the Pier around the town just ask around for times - someone will tell you. In St. John's Oh What a View Bed and Breakfast has received rave reviews because they serve an old fashioned Newfoundland breakfast, something that will stick to your ribs for the better part of the day. The name reflects the panoramic views, its breathtaking and reasonably priced. Velma's restaurant had fire damage which was a great place for Newfoundland food, however, I found out recently that the Stonehouse on Kenna's Hill is serving Salt Beef and Cabbage on either Wednesdays or Thursdays. Call ahead. We do have some nice restaurants but make reservations. All the other suggestions are great but maybe a short day trip to Harbour Grace and Carbonear on the Conception Bay Highway is a little different, visit Brigus home of Captain Bob Bartlett - Arctic Explorer and enjoy the harbour view - one of the best around. Harbour Grace has a few nice museums too! Have fun.
Denise
Jun 24th, 2004, 06:56 PM
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Hi again,
Denise, none of the acts you mentioned above are appearing at the Folk Festival in Bannerman Park this year [August 6th thru 8th] but there are a number of good performers playing. The Punters [celtic rockers] are closing Sunday night.
Maria, I have few more suggestions for you, to add to the many great ones above, and will send them off when I have 15 minutes free!
As you can see, the Avalon is a popular place!
cheers
Jerry
Denise, none of the acts you mentioned above are appearing at the Folk Festival in Bannerman Park this year [August 6th thru 8th] but there are a number of good performers playing. The Punters [celtic rockers] are closing Sunday night.
Maria, I have few more suggestions for you, to add to the many great ones above, and will send them off when I have 15 minutes free!
As you can see, the Avalon is a popular place!
cheers
Jerry
Jun 25th, 2004, 03:13 AM
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Wow! Thanks to all who so helpfully posted suggestions! I am planning on finalizing the itinerary and making reservations at hotels or B & B's by later this weekend. So any final suggestions for how to allocate our days and locations to spend our nights will be gladly accepted sooner rather than later.
I promise to post a detailed trip report when we return to help others.
Maria
I promise to post a detailed trip report when we return to help others.
Maria
Jun 25th, 2004, 09:03 AM
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Reply to Jerry:
Just to clarify. I believe I said that I did not know who is featured this year. My reply was "Just after is the Folk Festival at Bannerman Park, (not sure of the dates) fabulous folk music, crafts, bring a blanket, jacket, or your dancing feet. I don't know who is featured this year but in the past a visit by Great Big Sea, the Masterless Men, Connamara, Irish Decendants, etc."
Denise
Just to clarify. I believe I said that I did not know who is featured this year. My reply was "Just after is the Folk Festival at Bannerman Park, (not sure of the dates) fabulous folk music, crafts, bring a blanket, jacket, or your dancing feet. I don't know who is featured this year but in the past a visit by Great Big Sea, the Masterless Men, Connamara, Irish Decendants, etc."
Denise
Jun 25th, 2004, 02:41 PM
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Maria,
A few final thoughts.
Places to visit in /near St. John's
Signal Hill for scenery, history, walking trails and a great geo-science centre.
Cape Spear for scenery, history, walking trails, an exhibit of lighthouse paintings, and possibly seabirds and whales.
Downtown St. John's including the basilicas, the 'wine vaults', Nfld. museum [crowded, dowdy but still interesting].
South of St. John's - O'Brien's boat tour to Witless Bay for scenery, seabirds and quite possibly humpback whales plus Nfld music and a bit of history.
Ferryland for the archeological dig and the fascinating story of Lord Baltimore.
Trepassey area. A small but interesting museum.
Isolated, historic and beautiful Cape Race.
The road to Cape Pine. Ask at the Trepassey Motel if you need directions but this little road is a bit south of the hwy on the way to St. Shott's.
Walk the barrens here for a unique experience and a very good chance to see caribou near or on the road.
St. Vincent's beach for possible 'close up' whales and the tiny St. Vincent's museum.
Cape St. Mary's for scenery that on a clear day will amaze you and over 11,000 Northern Gannets [ white, golden-headed birds with 5 1/2 foot wingspans] 50 or 60 feet away from you on a sea stack.
The drive from St. Bride's to Placentia along Placentia Bay and the beautiful Cape Shore hills.
Castle Hill National Historic Site at Placentia for a journey back through the history of the French and English struggle for control of the Island.
A few final thoughts.
Places to visit in /near St. John's
Signal Hill for scenery, history, walking trails and a great geo-science centre.
Cape Spear for scenery, history, walking trails, an exhibit of lighthouse paintings, and possibly seabirds and whales.
Downtown St. John's including the basilicas, the 'wine vaults', Nfld. museum [crowded, dowdy but still interesting].
South of St. John's - O'Brien's boat tour to Witless Bay for scenery, seabirds and quite possibly humpback whales plus Nfld music and a bit of history.
Ferryland for the archeological dig and the fascinating story of Lord Baltimore.
Trepassey area. A small but interesting museum.
Isolated, historic and beautiful Cape Race.
The road to Cape Pine. Ask at the Trepassey Motel if you need directions but this little road is a bit south of the hwy on the way to St. Shott's.
Walk the barrens here for a unique experience and a very good chance to see caribou near or on the road.
St. Vincent's beach for possible 'close up' whales and the tiny St. Vincent's museum.
Cape St. Mary's for scenery that on a clear day will amaze you and over 11,000 Northern Gannets [ white, golden-headed birds with 5 1/2 foot wingspans] 50 or 60 feet away from you on a sea stack.
The drive from St. Bride's to Placentia along Placentia Bay and the beautiful Cape Shore hills.
Castle Hill National Historic Site at Placentia for a journey back through the history of the French and English struggle for control of the Island.
Jun 25th, 2004, 02:46 PM
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Oops - sorry - hit the 'send' button accidently.
Accomodation - if you can't get a good b&b in St. John's try the Battery Hotel for a great view.
In Bauline East [Witless Bay] Celtic Rendezvous Cabins.
In Trepassey the Trepassey Motel.
And in St. Bride's the Bird Island Resort.
Have a wonderful visit, and don't forget to take lots of time to visit with local Newfoundlanders in the little coastal communities. They will be a trip highlight.
Jerry
Accomodation - if you can't get a good b&b in St. John's try the Battery Hotel for a great view.
In Bauline East [Witless Bay] Celtic Rendezvous Cabins.
In Trepassey the Trepassey Motel.
And in St. Bride's the Bird Island Resort.
Have a wonderful visit, and don't forget to take lots of time to visit with local Newfoundlanders in the little coastal communities. They will be a trip highlight.
Jerry
Jul 6th, 2004, 07:36 PM
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OK, I think I have done my best to incorporate everybody's ideas and I have read up on the sights and this is what we have booked:
Arrive late Wed. night to St. Johns. Stay at The Roses B&B.
Thursday spend the day visiting St. Johns sights espec. the Signal Hill Tattoo, the Fluvarium, the Botanical Gardens and just strolling through the town. Another night at the Roses.
Friday depart St Johns and head to Witless Bay area using the day to finish up St Johns sights, visit Cape Spear en route, hike the East Coast Trail, whatever. Spend the night at Elaine's B&B in Witless Bay.
Saturday take a boat tour out to the Islands and see the birds (whales?) and anything else. More hiking, touring nearby Provincial Parks, Mistaken Point and then spend the night in Colinet at Trelawney's B&B.
Sunday head south to Cape St Mary and St Bride's to see the birds and spend the night at the Bird Island Resort.
Monday depart heading North thru Placentia/Argentia areas. Visit Salmonier PP enroute to Brigus to spend the night at Brookdale Manor B&B in Brigus.
Tuesday head North and tour the Baccalieu Peninsula area (Hearts Content, Harbor Grace, more hiking, etc... spend final night back in St Johns at the Roses for an early 6:00 a.m. flight home on Wed morning.
It seems like so much to see in just a week but I am hoping we will have a lot of daylight for long days of sightseeing given the extreme Northern latitudes.
Any final thoughts or suggestions from all of you experts?
I am happy to hear of anything special that you want to tell us. Restaurants? Hikes?
Thanks so much!
Maria
Arrive late Wed. night to St. Johns. Stay at The Roses B&B.
Thursday spend the day visiting St. Johns sights espec. the Signal Hill Tattoo, the Fluvarium, the Botanical Gardens and just strolling through the town. Another night at the Roses.
Friday depart St Johns and head to Witless Bay area using the day to finish up St Johns sights, visit Cape Spear en route, hike the East Coast Trail, whatever. Spend the night at Elaine's B&B in Witless Bay.
Saturday take a boat tour out to the Islands and see the birds (whales?) and anything else. More hiking, touring nearby Provincial Parks, Mistaken Point and then spend the night in Colinet at Trelawney's B&B.
Sunday head south to Cape St Mary and St Bride's to see the birds and spend the night at the Bird Island Resort.
Monday depart heading North thru Placentia/Argentia areas. Visit Salmonier PP enroute to Brigus to spend the night at Brookdale Manor B&B in Brigus.
Tuesday head North and tour the Baccalieu Peninsula area (Hearts Content, Harbor Grace, more hiking, etc... spend final night back in St Johns at the Roses for an early 6:00 a.m. flight home on Wed morning.
It seems like so much to see in just a week but I am hoping we will have a lot of daylight for long days of sightseeing given the extreme Northern latitudes.
Any final thoughts or suggestions from all of you experts?
I am happy to hear of anything special that you want to tell us. Restaurants? Hikes?
Thanks so much!
Maria
Jul 7th, 2004, 04:32 AM
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Maria, your trip sounds just great! I really hope you like the Roses B&B. WE love it there and the location is perfect. All your planning looks good.
When you are on your way down to Witless Bay area, just past there, is a great seafood restaurant on the left sied. Sorry can't remember the name, but I'll look it up after work today. Also at that same location is a tiny cafe called Irish Loop Cafe. We loved it and ate breakfast there everyday and chatted with the folks there. DIfferent ones every day. WE'd spend 60 to 90 minutes there chattng while we ate breakfast.
Have a great time.
When you are on your way down to Witless Bay area, just past there, is a great seafood restaurant on the left sied. Sorry can't remember the name, but I'll look it up after work today. Also at that same location is a tiny cafe called Irish Loop Cafe. We loved it and ate breakfast there everyday and chatted with the folks there. DIfferent ones every day. WE'd spend 60 to 90 minutes there chattng while we ate breakfast.
Have a great time.
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The restaurant I spoke of is Captain's Table and is just south of Witless Bay at Mobile. It's very well known and very good. The Irish Cafe is attached to it.
I'll also tell you our 2 favourite hikes. Just south of the bridge in Mobile, turn left at the first road and drive to end and park. Then continue on trail to the cliff edge and turn left and hike to Tinkers Point. It's a real easy hike to get to and a beautiful hike to do.
Also our very favourite hike was to the abandoned ville of LaManche. A truly outstanding hike, but is a longer hike.
Charlene, we had the same worry, but for nothing. It really ins't necessary to stay at an airport hotel. We stayed at our B&B, The Roses, and got up early and drove to the airport. It's only 10 or 15 minutes away. We gave ourselves lots of time and stopped for coffee at Tim Horton's and still had lots of time left. Hardly any traffic and hardly any distance at all.
Have a great time
I'll also tell you our 2 favourite hikes. Just south of the bridge in Mobile, turn left at the first road and drive to end and park. Then continue on trail to the cliff edge and turn left and hike to Tinkers Point. It's a real easy hike to get to and a beautiful hike to do.
Also our very favourite hike was to the abandoned ville of LaManche. A truly outstanding hike, but is a longer hike.
Charlene, we had the same worry, but for nothing. It really ins't necessary to stay at an airport hotel. We stayed at our B&B, The Roses, and got up early and drove to the airport. It's only 10 or 15 minutes away. We gave ourselves lots of time and stopped for coffee at Tim Horton's and still had lots of time left. Hardly any traffic and hardly any distance at all.
Have a great time
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Me again! I heard from the owner of The Roses B&B (Patrick Keating) that we would save considerable money on a car rental by NOT renting at the St. Johns airport and taking a taxi ride into town and renting in downtown St. Johns where all the rental agencies are. I guess that there is a considerable tax on vehicles rented at the airport that you can save on by renting in town. Patrick Keating also told me that getting a 5:00 a.m. taxi on the morning of departure would not be a problem (I think that is the only flight out all day so they are used to it!).
Hope this helps your planning, Charlene.
Maria
Hope this helps your planning, Charlene.
Maria
