Breakfast cost @ Hyatt Regency Kyoto?

Old Feb 10th, 2013, 05:41 PM
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Breakfast cost @ Hyatt Regency Kyoto?

Does anyone know roughly how much breakfast is per person at the Hyatt Regency in Kyoto?

There's a difference of about 9.800 yen/per night between our current booked rate and the bed and breakfast rate the hotel is offering. That's roughly $105.

I can't imagine breakfast is $50-55/person, or am I being terribly naive?

Anyone who has been there recently remember the cost roughly?
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Old Feb 10th, 2013, 06:04 PM
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Price is just above ¥3,200 per person if buffet is paid for rather than included in the room rate.
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Old Feb 10th, 2013, 06:15 PM
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lol...sorry I haven't the foggiest - but I guess there are certain advantages to being a budget traveler and staying at Toyoko or Comfort Inn hotels where a nice little breakfast is included in the rate....lol...couldn't resist! ;-)
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Old Feb 10th, 2013, 06:32 PM
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Sorry, mara, I don't get it. Is there something wrong with staying at the Hyatt?
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In what was either our good luck or a very clever marketing plan, there seemed to be a Royal Host restaurant located near every hotel we stayed at in Japan including one across the street from the Kyoto Tokyu Hotel. For $7-$9 USD, we had a choice of several options on breakfast including juice, coffee, eggs or omelet, bacon or sausage and toast. And the Kyoto location even had a self serve specialty coffee bar with free refills. It only took us till our 3rd morning there to figure out which button to push for the coffee we wanted but we weren’t alone. We noticed the Japanese restaurant guests couldn’t figure it out either.
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Old Feb 10th, 2013, 07:24 PM
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it's only $35-45 for breakfast.. just like LA
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Old Feb 10th, 2013, 08:42 PM
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If you go the no-brekkie route and are looking to save money, there is a convenience store just a few steps down the hill. (And remember that the quality of what you'll find in convenience stores is about 1000x better than in No America.)
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Old Feb 10th, 2013, 08:45 PM
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Billy,

If you book through Kiwicollection and use a Visa Platinum card then breakfast (continental) is free as well as internet etc. No need to make advance payment either.

http://www.kiwicollection.com/hotel-...-regency-kyoto
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Old Feb 10th, 2013, 08:52 PM
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Unfortunately I don't have a Platinum card, Pook.
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Old Feb 10th, 2013, 09:02 PM
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Book through a Virtuoso agent and breakfast, a ¥3,500? credit for f & b or spa and upgrade upon arrival if available. Usually their rate is good. There are plenty in LA.
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Old Feb 11th, 2013, 06:27 AM
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The difference you are quoting would be from the advance purchase rate to the b & b rate, right? This may also answer your other posted question but I never use the adv purchase rate in Japan until about 4 weeks before we travel. I book the lowest cancelable rate so we don't get sold out and wait until we get close to book the adv purchase rate. It has always been there but you never know.....

There is the full breakfast buffet served in the morning which is pretty decent btw in the lobby restaurant for ¥3100(we were last there 11/11) or you can order off their limited menu which are mostly items off the buffet IIRC. They have a room service menu of course which is not cheap but you can order just continental or the likes.

There is free coffee and tea in the rooms and you can bring back a pastry or something from the 7*11 or combi store(you guys are going to love these) the night before, When we didn't have a breakfast plan(or free with Diamond)or had to be out the door early to sight see the next morning. We would take a bus or taxi down to the station area and forage from there on our way to the train or next venue.

NOTE: If you ever find yourself getting lost, tired and looking for food anywhere in Japan ALWAYS head towards the train station area. From the smallest towns to the largest metropolis the train station areas will always have food.....you have to trust me on this.

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I just realized I didn't finish my thought on not doing advance purchase at the Hyatt or in Japan. The Hyatt's in Japan, I have noticed, have various specials yearly. The Park Hyatt Tokyo has just come out with a few pretty good specials for 2013 recently that you may have taken advantage of...."The Suite Life"....."Park 360"...."Weekend Retreat"...."Weekend Oasis" and "Relaxation". Most of the Hyatt's come out with something during the year depending on the tourist levels and I like to keep our options open to these if our stay is later in the year.

In other hotels that we stay in unless its a prestigious ryokan or a venue that sells our consistently yearly I like to make that cancelable reservation and wait for the Japanese websites to load their prices in at 6 months and some 90 days before your times.....honto.

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Old Feb 11th, 2013, 08:15 AM
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HT. I have booked the PHyatt in Tokyo and the HR in Kyoto both cancelable( HR I have the weekend oasis rate) do you think that a cheaper rate then maybe added nearer the time? And am I right in my understanding of the above that this will be in the Japanese website though?
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Old Feb 11th, 2013, 08:20 AM
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HT-We will be arriving into Hiroshima station at about 8:30. I noticed that in the station there is a food court in a dept store, but the store closes at 9PM. Do you know if food is available in the station itself after 9PM, or will we have to eat in the Gran Via or Sheraton, which I would like to avoid. A quick snack or lite meal is all we want at that time of night.
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Old Feb 11th, 2013, 08:31 AM
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Hyatt rates are usually best from the Hyatt dot com site I have found though others have found good rates through a virtuoso agent and through credit card deals. Often American Express will have deals on cheaper Hyatt stays also which would be worth a check.

Yes, Japanese only websites but also on their English versions like Japanican.com
Agoda.com and Kayak.com along with the others should also have more rates available than they do now for late in this year. Check sites I mentioned for availabilities in Tokyo for two months from now then check for 8 months from now and see the if there is a difference in availabilities especially on the japanican and agoda sites.

Most Japanese hotels have not released their fall rates yet and likely will not till after spring. That is how I have seen it over the years at any rate. Some years its really been worth the wait.

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Old Feb 11th, 2013, 08:41 AM
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shelly, not certain what time the restaurants close but if trains are arriving there should be a combi store in Hiroshima eki open or in the neighborhood just around the station. IThe food court and store you mentioned are on another level IIRC anyway. There are other eating venues in that station just as you exit the gates. IIRC there is also a coffee shop around the back of the station that should be open and there is food on the shinkansen that will be served continuously until you arrive at Hiroshima station. The food on trains are the bento type that will be sold every half hour or so as the food cart will come rumbling through the train cars. Bento box lunches, candy, cookies, various snacks, dried fish, cuttlefish and shrimp, coffee, tea, soft drinks, beer, sake and even ice-cream.

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Old Feb 11th, 2013, 09:19 AM
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Actually, HT, I don't have the advance purchase rate booked. I have a good rate through my company but it doesn't apply to any packages (free night, free breakfast, etc.) -- so I'm just calculating the difference between my current rate and the B&B rate. And seeing if it makes sense to just buy breakfast on our own. Which, judging from the input so far, seems to indicate that, yes, we should. It's still cheaper at the end of the day.

Thanks, Kim, for the virtuoso suggestion! I'll definitely call the agent I used to work with to see if that ends up being an even better deal.
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Thankst HT. (sorry to jump on your thread FW)
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Thanks HT. I did not know know about the snacks and food options on the train. There's so much to learn for a first timer to Japan and this board is/has been so helpful.
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Shelley,

Most of the food stores in Hiroshima station are on the opposite side of the station from the Sheraton, which makes them a bit inconvenient to reach. A good bet for you would be to get a bento box at the train station from which you're departing (en route to Hiroshima). If you get hungry on the way, it's perfectly acceptable to eat on the train -- each seat on the Shinkansen has airplane-like drop-down trays. I will say that the restaurant at the Sheraton is not terrible.

When you do have to get from the Sheraton/Granvia side of the station to the other side -- which is to say, just about any time you want to do anything in Hiroshima except take a train -- remember that the easiest way is to show your Japan Rail pass and walk through the station, rather than use the pedestrian tunnel.
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