Nice! Thanks.

"One of the best hours of my life" tells it all. Glad your encounter was such a good one.

wow, thanks for this report, I'll be doing the same thing in about 2 months, staying at Gorillas Nest & Hotel des Mille Collines. I'm looking forward to it even more now!!

Richard,

I can not wait to go, thanks for sharing!

What time did you arrive in Kigili?

How long do you think the average visit to the Genocide Memorial takes?

For the folks in your group who struggled a bit on the trek why do you think that was?

Den

Den,

We arrived in the morning in Kigali, something like 10 am. I think there is limited flights (one per day) between Nairobi and Kigali on Air Kenya.

We were at the Genocide Memorial for about 90 minutes. You could do the visit longer or shorter, just depends on you, and how much you can take. They have a lot of optional videos that are pretty sad and graphic.

For the folks who struggled somewhat, it was because they were out of shape. You are literally climbing up a wet mountain full of vegatation. We all wiped out several times. In fact, laughingly, my pants were all grass stained on my butt, and I just left them at the camp to give me more room in the bags. My advice is to go slow, take your time, and enjoy the view... it all ends too quickly. If you think you will have some difficulty, ask them to put you in a group that is going to the closer Gorillas, instead of the normally much longer hike to Susa group.

Have a great time, and let me know if you have any more questions.

Good morning Richard,

I will arrive in Kigili at 1:15 PM.

Sounds like I will have time to visit the memorial and still have a scenic drive to the Gorilla's Nest.

BTW-What are the weight limits for the flight? I have not been able to find this information.

Carry on allowance?

Checked allowance?

Thanks Richard,
Den

Richard,

Very funny about the pants! I guess I better not wear my son's spiffy $200 snowboarding pants then-he'll not be too pleased if I ruined them. They are a tad tougher than my quick dry pants I will be wearing most of the time but still very thin and warm.

I was trying not to have to bring or wear long underwear for just one day. Did you have any trouble with nettles or cold?

Den

Richard, Gamewatchers was able to put this together for you? I'm using them for a driving safari in Kenya, but they didn't have a Rwanda extension available yet...said they were working on it though (maybe you are the first?). They did put me in touch with some tour operators though---although we decided to arrange our own way in Rwanda. Did you drive with Gamewatchers in Kenya or do a flying safari?

Den,

Im not sure the weight restrictions going to Rwanda. We left most of our luggage with Gamewatchers in Nairobi, and only brought a large day bag to Rwanda.

As for the nettles, I did get stung a couple of times, but it was my own fault. It was quite warm, so I stuck to a short sleeved short and regular long pants. My arms got stung a little, but it really didnt bother me. Make sure you get a walking stick there, they are very helpful. I dont recommend needing long underwear as it was quite warm.

Lucia,

Yes we were on the fact finding mission for Gamewatchers. They can now arrange for Gorilla Treks through the company we used there. I did both in Kenya with Gamewatchers, we drove, and also booked a separate flying safari. Again, I highly recommend them.

One more question? Is their a suggested amount to tip the gorilla guide and porters? Or gift?

Thanks Richard

I saw the Sabinyos back in October 05 and they were amazing. The Sabinyou sliverback, I believe he is called Guhundra, is the biggest anywhere in PNV. He is my cover picture on this site.
http://waynehazle.com/eastafrica/rwanda/

The rest of my gorilla pics are:
http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=bj3iyjv5.b4al5hox&x=0&y=-tixpad


We lucked out because they Sabinyos had coem so close that it was about 15 minutes of walking. Even the local kids could sit on thier farms and see them.
Yes, definitely one of the greatest hours of my life.

Air Kenya has two daily flights from Nairobi to Kigali, a morning flight and an afternoon one.'

For anyone flying there, please pay STRICT attention to the weight limit issue. I am pretty sure it was 22kilos per person. We had already been in Kenya & Tanzania for 2 weeks, my wife and I each had 2 bags that weighed 22K each. We ended up each having to readjust our bags to take one each and to leave a bag with the tour company. We got those 10 days later when we came back.

They are also tough about hand carryons, 1 each I think. Though we did manage to cry our way through and get more than our allotment on

Richardfh:

Was it cold in your room at the Gorilla's Nest? I had to get extra blankets.

I almost requested one of those little firepots, but then I was afraid of burning down the room or coking on the C02

Den,

I think they like cash.. lol. We gave our porter $5 USD, and our 2 guides $10 each / person. There are a lot of kids there, so if you want to win some friends, bring a soccer ball if you can.

Wayne,

Yes it was a little cold at Gorillas Nest at night. I wasnt too bad after drinking about 6 beers, lol. They have a new manager there now, and we gave her a couple of suggestions to improve the place a little.

Forgot to say, nice pics Wayne. I should put mine on Kodakgallery for all to see.

richard, thanks for posting.

Richard: Thanks for the tips info. I would love to see your photographs and what type of camera, lens for your Gorilla photos!

Lots of kids in Rwanda in general? Near the trekking area? How did you carry the soccer ball - deflated with a pump? Would a flat Arobie or whatever is cool nowadays work just as well?

Wayne: Your pictures are wonderful I had looked at them before and had downloaded and devoured your "Trip Newsletter" Very nicely done, it must have been the most amazing Christmas "what we did this past year" letter ever!

Weight: The weight sounds consistant the with Kenya Airways ala Precision and now Kenya Airways ala Rwanda Express. Patty says Precision is 20 kg and Kenya Airlines website say 20 kg so that is that, thanks. The daybag sounds like a great idea though.

Den

Yes, please post your pics, Richard. I would love to see some from the Kenya portion of your trip too. Thanks!

Wayne, those photo's are magnificent. Do you recommend the Sabinyos group, i think I really want to see that Silverback, he's incredible.

Yes, Richard, please do post your photos. Nice report! Thank you.

Judochop:

I do recommend that group, however I am not sure how much of a choice you will have when you go. I think they just prfere to assign people at their own discretion. However, I think if you get their before everyone else, you can ask your guide to urge them to give you what you want.

The first day I saw the Amaharos. They have the oldest silverback in the mountains. He was like a great grandpa and did virtually nothing but lay on his back for our hour.

thanks Wayne, if i can get pictures half as good as yours i'll be happy.

I will be going to Kigili, Rwanda for a traditional African wedding. I will be in Kigili for 2 weeks, as part of the trip we will be seeing the gorilla's. The entire trip is the most exciting adventure of my life.
The only thing I am concerned about is the food. We are staying at the Hotel Chez Lando, did you happen to see that Hotel.

We stayed at Chez Lando in December and the food was very good especially the pizza and steak.There are quite a few good restaurants in Kigali and you will not go hungry.Kigali is def my favorite city in Africa.

Food was great everywhere in Rwanda. Gotta love the French.

However, there was also a GREAT Indian restaurant just down teh street from the Mille Collines.

I just got my shots for the trip to Rwanda so far 3 shots and maybe a possible 4th. They are not suggesting the meningitis shot. Were there any health issues you encountered?
Where the mosquitoes a problem?