Suggestions for a Tanzania Safari Trip in February 2011

mctran, seems like you may be in my neck of the woods - I live in Vancouver, BC. You would all be very welcome to come over some day for appies & fire away with any & all questions in person, as Jim (husband) and I have been lucky enough to go to East Africa 3 times over the last 4 years. We just had our annual Afree-kah night at the end of August, but as Jim & I do love to talk about Africa, anyone who missed it is welcome to come over at your convenience to talk about our favorite subject!

In the meantime you will get some GREAT advice here on this forum - there is a depth of knowledge here that is incredible! You are really going to love this forum & all the wonderful people on it.

Awesome! Thank you for the offer My husband and I were born and raised in Vancouver, but currently live in Seattle. The rest of our friends (who also will be on the trip) still live up there...I miss home!
I'm all ears and can't wait to hear about the pros' recommendations. This will be our first trip so I think we'll be blown away no matter what. Just curious, which companies did you end up choosing? Also, would you spend a day in Arusha for a game drive? Any experience with a canoeing safari? THANKS!!!

mctran, you will be blown away no matter what.

I think if you have 5 extra days to spend more time on safari, volunteer or go on a cultural tour, you should do all three. I personally would add another 2 days on safari for a total of 10, stop at an orphanage or make a donation at an NGO of your chosing, and include a cultural visit. Just make sure that the cultural visit is off the beaten path so that you get an authentic experience.

Arusha is the city that is a jumping off point for safaris in the Northern Tz safari circuit...there are no game drives in Arusha. Or did you mean Arusha National Park? I think this is a lovely, much-overlooked park and would highly recommend a day trip to the park.

I've canoed in Arusha National Park. I am an experienced canoer, but had certainly never paddled within sight of hippos. It was a little daunting, but great. You can do this during a day trip to the park.

I'm in Victoria and recently attended the west coast GTG at Lynda's. I'm sorry you weren't there!

Hi mctran,
My boyfriend and I just came from 16 days safaris in Tanzania and Zanzibar. My boyfriend contacted 5 tour companies and we settled on Afripotsafaris. Their prices were attractive and James professionalism is tackling our enormous questions was un beatable. Our itinerary is similar to yours, could contact me at emmabrando@gmail.com for more chats on our Africa safari.
Could check below the cost for the tour, what was inclusive and not included.

Cost per person US$ 2350 (a private and exclusive budget camping safari)

Tour price includes:-
-Transportation in 4 x 4 Land cruiser safari vehicles in Tanzania – ideal for game viewing and photography
- Full board accommodation while on safari
- All Park entrance fees and Ngorongoro conservancy fees,
- Services of English speaking skilled and experienced driver/guide
- Accommodations in a two man tent (pitching tents in Tanzania)
-Three meals while on safari for vegetarians or non vegetarians
- Camping gears;
-One night accommodation in Arusha before the safari on Bed and Breakfast basis
-Return ticket Kilimanjaro – Zanzibar - Kilimanjaro
-Return airport transfers in Arusha and Zanzibar
-Tour Starts and ends in Arusha


Tour price excludes: -
-Kenya/Tanzania/Zanzibar visas
- Alcoholic drinks
-Sleeping bag for Tanzania safari (a good 3-season warm sleeping bag as it can get cold at night)
-Accommodations and activities in Zanzibar (Can be arrange upon request)
- Flying Doctor’s
-Tips or Gratitude,
-Laundry,
-Personal Toiletries,
-International flights,
-Personal & baggage insurance
-Optional activities like visiting the cultural centre and canoeing at Arusha National Park
-Drinking water and items of personal nature etc.

Hi mctran,

Calo is so right - you will have an awesome time in Africa, just beware that this will not be your ONLY trip there, you will be planning how to get back on the plane home!! It's an AMAZING place.

I have been to Arusha, but only for lunch - I haven't seen the park, but have read lots of trip reports on it. It sounds like a wonderful 'intro' to the game parks, and it is something I would like to see one day.

We have gone to both countries each time we went - both Kenya and Tanzania as I really can't choose bewtween the two! I love Nairobi and I love starting from there as we have made some amazing friends there. The first two times we were on a group safari, we went with Micato Safaris & we loved it. The third time though we thought we would try a private safari as we wanted to take our son (he's 32) to show him what we were spending his inheritence on - thought it only fitting that he should see first hand! The safari director from our first two safaris (same person) by this time had started his company in Nairobi, so we went with him. It was awesome.

He sublet the TZ portion to a company called Warrior Trails - who were incredible, we really had a great time! Warrior Trails is owned by a local Maasai, Clamian, they operate out of Arusha & I would highly recomend them, there vehicle was very comfortable, their driver was incredible and Clamian is a real gem as well - very eager to see that you have an awesome safari. The two companies you mentioned in the original post, Roy's and Good Earth have excellent reports from people on this board as well, so you will have plenty to choose from!

Let me know if you are ever up in the area, you & your friends would all be welcome to come over for coffee and a chat! (ie questions & brain picking!)

My email is
lynda d swain at telus dot net.

(no spaces, all run together)

Miss LyndaS... Laughing again seeing you spell out your email address. Believe those who wish to share such info should be able to (not that I've read anywhere that we can't), input actual email addresses. Many posting here regularly enter web links, articles, etc., so why not these?

Think it's time for Fodor's to provide some sort of "private messaging" (as Trip Advisor)... am sure many of us would like to contact one another without spelling out our addresses as if trying to circumvent some "rule." It's foolish.

Sandi you are right about the private messaging - it would be nice! But, actually I didn't do that because of a rule on Fodors, but rather because of auto web crawlers that comb through these boards to pick up email addresses to spam & annoy. Not sure who told me to do that, maybe my IT guy (Jim). Probably not needed at all either with the height of security he has on this computer!!

But yes, private messaging is needed here!

Thank you for your help, suggestions and contacts!
Calo - Did you ever feel like you were in danger while canoeing with the hippos? How close were they? In regards to the culture visits, do you make a request to your driver to go see a more authentic village? How does that work? I looked into volunteering but it seems like we would have to commit for a minimum of a week or two...
Guidance - My hubby found your itinerary appealing as it included some real tent camping = waking up to animals virtually next to you. Did you spend any nights in lodges? If so, how did the experiences compare?
Lynda - I'll definitely be doing some brain-picking in the near future
MERCI BEAUCOUP!!!

Good point Lynda, that I wouldn't have thought of. Not a geek My mind doesn't even begin to go there. Spam? What's that? LOL! LOL!

If I insert an email address, it's always a "secondary" one that I don't mind if some creepy crawler finds. Will check it occasionally and if nothing there by reference I might want to open, all will be deleted, deleted, deleted.

But PM would be nice.

mctran, the guides are familiar with where to canoe so that the hippos aren't a danger, although I have to say that their paddling skills were a bit lacking. It was fun.

With regard to cultural experiences, your ground operator should know where to take you for an authentic visit. Some can be contrived experiences. Next year I'm staying overnight in a Maasai boma which I'm really looking forward to. On my last trip, I was in a boma for the evening milking which I thoroughly enjoyed. The owner of the company I travel with is Masai, so he knows the "ins and outs" of where to take his clients for authentic experiences. I also did a cultural visit to the homestead of an Iraqw tribesman which was fascinating.

Hi mctran,
Sorry for the late reply, been busy lately; thanks for the questions.
Our tour package was strictly a budget camping one i.e. - on set –up campsites in Kenya while pitching tents in Tanzania. We were on a string budget but the experience was awesome and memorable…. We are looking at visiting Uganda and Rwanda in the near future.

guidance, did you have to help set up the tents, cook and do camp duties, etc? Or was there a staff to do that. What about toilets and showers?

mctran, I'm following your thread because I'm interested in seeing the replies. If I could plan an African trip now to anywhere at anytime, I would be planning Tanzania in Feb2011. I'll never forget reading the reports from BillH when he listed the counts of how many different lions etc that he saw during that time of year.

Does anyone know if BillH is still around? I don't recall seeing him post for awhile.

Regarding volunteering. Yes they usually want you at least two weeks or more.
What we did was fundraise a bit before we left and spent the day at an orphanage outside of Arusha and gave them money to build thier well.

If you are spending time in Arusha I would recommend this group. They send me newsletters often and are doing amazing things.
http://sites.google.com/site/goodhopeorphanage/

You could contact Nelson and he would pick you up at your hotel and bring you to the site and back as he did us. It was a real eye opener but made us feel good to be giving something to those who really need it instead of just the big safari companies.

We stayed in tents on our safari, but I guess they are considered luxury tents, however we did hear the animals bumping into the walls at night and the hyenas and lions pretty darn close. We always felt safe as there was a Massai Warrior outside our tent with his spear at night. I would not have traded that experience for anything.

sundowner - I miss BillH also. Splendid fellow, wonderful photography. Not sure what is/happened. His (and wife Carolyn) photos are no longer on pbase. All their pbase galleries gone for about 2 years. Last email I had with him was early 2008. And that was after his Tanzanian trip you remember, Feb 2008. Anyone know more?

Which reminds me, I am now looking for safari options for 2011. Tanzania in Feb would be very tempting. Have you any such recommendations/ideas? Couple years ago I had something set up with Roy Safaris for Feb 2009 but had to drop it. Wonder if BGiven is organizing any groups for there then?

regards - tom

Tom,

See here:

http://www.thewildsource.com/pdfs/big-cats-and-migration.pdf

Thanks AKRI, how did you find that, I could not on thewildsource??
Looks like a great safari and I like its length, 9 days on actual safari. But it is full up. And a ways out of my budget. FWIW, I think thewildsource is mostly into setting up custom safaris and not so much pre-planned groups.

regards - tom

we went on a private tour with African Dream Safaris....it was superb...great game viewing, wonderful accommodations...s many extras..a dream of a lifetime....if you want a real splurge, stay at the Nogoro Crater Lodge..rooms beyond description and a stay we will never forget..

sundowner - The more the merrier

live42day - Thank you for the volunteer website. I will definitely contact Nelson soon. I am a nurse and I was hoping to do some medical related work but it looks like I will have to return with a few nursing/doctor friends instead of engineers!

I am leaning more towards booking with Roy's and will post the itinerary soon. Thanks a bundle - you guys have been so helpful and grrr-eat!

If you will be in the Serengeti in Feb., there is only one place to stay Ndutu Lodge on the short grass plains. The migration should be on the plains and easy to get to from Ndutu. Also easy to get to Olduvai or Seronera, etc. The Ngorongoro Crater could be visited without staying there if well organized. (Its cold up there. - Ice in the wash stand water in the old days.)
Ps. I lived in Tanzania for a number of years.

Here it is...Any input would be great!

Day 1: Arrival at Kilimanjaro International Airport. Dinner and overnight in Arusha at The Karama Lodge
Day 2: Day trip to Arusha National Park for wildlife viewing with picnic lunches. Afternoon canoeing safari. Dinner and overnight at The Karama Lodge
Day 3: A drive to the Lake Manyara National Park for wildlife viewing with picnic lunches. Dinner and overnight at the Kirurumu Tented Lodge or Ngorongoro Farmhouse
Day 4: After breakfast drive to the Serengeti via Olduvai Gorge. Picnic lunch overlooking the gorge, then game viewing for the rest of the day enroute to the Serengeti Sopa Lodge
Day 5: Explore the central part of the Serengeti (Seronera). Lunch, dinner and overnight at Serengeti Sopa Lodge
Day 6: Drive to Southern Serengeti wildlife viewing enroute to Ndutu with picnic lunches. Dinner and overnight at the Ndutu Safari Lodge
Day 7: After breakfast, game drive in the Ndutu area, lunch then afternoon drive to Ngorongoro via a Maasai village for a visit. Dinner and overnight at Ngorongoro Sopa Lodge
Day 8: Early breakfast and descend into Ngorongoro Crater for game viewing in the Crater. Lunch and drive to Arusha for dinner and overnight at The Karama Lodge (or The African Tulip or Rivertrees Country Inn)*
*Extra night at the Ngorogoro Crater can be arranged to include a second crater descend with a 4wd vehicle or a guided trek in Olmoti Crater - Which one should we do?
Day 9: Breakfast and drive to the Arusha airport for the 1325 flight to Zanzibar. Stone Town for two nights stay at Tembo House Hotel (Bed and Breakfast)
Day 11: Transfer to the north coast, for 8 nights stay at the Matemwe Beach Village.
Days 12 - 18: Days at leisure by the Indian Ocean.Dinner and overnight at the Matemwe Beach Village.
Day 19 (Feb 16): Breakfast and transfer to Zanzibar airport for the flight to Dar es Salaam.

THANKS!

If on Day 8 you decide to overnight in Arusha, best to stay in town - African Tulip; the other two, Karama and Rivertrees out outside of town in the opposite direction of the Arusha airport for your flight to ZNZ.

Thanks sandi. Have you done a trek in Olmoti Crater? Any thoughts on that versus spending another day in the Ngorongoro crater?

Olmoti Crater trek or any trek... not for this gal Those that do though enjoy it.

On Day 3, they show your overnight at Kirurumu which is at Manyara or Farmhouse which is right outside Ngorongoro... I'd suggest you o/n at the Farmhouse to shorten drive on Day 4 into the Serengeti. At conclusion of activities in/around Manyara its a good road to the Farmhouse where you can easily arrive before dusk.

Next day you will have saved a good 2/hrs drive time which will be an overall long day.

I agree with Sandi on the Farmhouse stay.

IF the rains have fallen on the plains, you will regret not having spent more time at Ndutu. You can easily enough get to Seronera for a day(Olduvai is a very easy trip or a stop on the way - who know the migration may even be in that area. It was last year at the time I was at Ndutu.), all that is necessary - only real reason to visit Seronera is the best chance to see well habituated Leopards. We just missed seeing one twice around Ndutu last year. Around Ndutu the first & maybe second arrivals will see the Leopard and then they often disappear into bush or gullies. They are very hard to spot. I always told my tourists, "You may not see a Leopard, but I guarentee a Leopard will have seen you." They are a pretty common animal - even a pair living in Nairobi city park (in my day).

Once at Ndutu we were returning to the lodge and came across a Leopard walking down a track. We followed at a respectful distance for a little while. Then all of a sudden the Leopard shot up a tree. Less than a minute later, there were two Lionesses at the base of the tree. The Leopard was easier to see a bit away from the tree - it looked like a very large eagle sitting on the top of the tree.

Hi,

This is my very first post but I'm sure it will be one of many. Your trip to Tanzania sounds good, I'm sure your love it!

I'm from the UK, I went to East Africa for a bit after finishing university and never went home. I'm in Arusha at the moment and really enjoying it.

Let me know if you want to know what hotels or restaurants to go to and how much you should be paying or sort taxi's etc whatever you need, will be happy to help.

Also you mentioned volunteering, I would happily arrange something for you if you let me know what you want to do and how much time you have free, work at an orphanage, school etc. (even if its only a day or so, I'm sure there is something you can get involved with). I can also arrange for you to have lunch with some Masai friends and visit a boma if you want to see a bit of a culture.

Let me know what quotes you have from safari companies, if they are in Arusha I will probably know of them, and more than likely had a drink with the guide/owner at some-point and let you know what they're like. There are some very good companies but also so very bad ones about.

Your love Zanzibar, again let me know if you want to know where to go. Stone Town and the North of the island are two very different places but both really worth a visit.

Hope you have a great trip!
Matt

Hi Matt!
We are hoping to volunteer for 4 days at the beginning of our trip. Is there a website that I can take a look at? I would love to get some more information from you. Thanks :0

I would be interested in volunteer opportunities also so look forward to your reply Matt.

Where are most of the volunteer opportunities located? Arusha? We plan to volunteer for 4-5 days after the safari and Zanzibar. I'm trying to decide where to fly to from Zanzibar and also if I should book a departure flight back to Seattle/Vancouver from Kilimanjaro or Dar Es Salaam...

My understanding is that volunteer opportunities in Tz exist just about everywhere. I think you have 2 ways to make your decision about whether to fly home from Dar or Arusha:

1. Find an NGO that you feel passionate about, then book your flight depending on the location of the NGO.

2. If saving a few dollars is important to you, find out the cost to fly home from one location over the other and then find an NGO in that area.

Depending on where you volunteer, know that the KLM flight departing JRO takes off and 1/hr later lands at DAR to pick-up paxs before flying onto AMS.

Sandi, if not Farmhouse close to the Ngorongoro Crater, there is also the Plantation Lodge, which is a really beautiful place - I found it very different to any other lodge I have stayed in in Tanzania - its one of my personal faves.

Regards,

Tom
Ziara Safaris - http://www.ziarasafaris.com/

Sandi, do you have any experience flying with Ethiopian Air?

matt12
Any experience with African secenic safaris or gap adventures?

mctran -

Ethiopian Air? NO!

From the States, believe their departure point is Dulles IAD outside of Wash, DC (not convenient); then there maybe a stop in Rome (no plane change), onto Addis Ababa (stop, no plane change) before onto Kilimanjaro. Up/down doesn't appeal even for a few hundred savings. Why if I'm heading to JRO, it's KLM (via AMSterdam) or another carrier into NBO with onward flight same day or next to JRO.

While in Zanzibar you should check out Sauti za Busara which is East Africa's largest music festival. You will experience some fantastic music and culture.We will be leaving in march and are flying out of Dar because we got a fantastic deal on flights but it is usually cheaper to fly from Nairobi.