sea61.com/morocco usually self guide do tours at great prices
boots on thegrounf booking on line I always pay with CC never
wiremoney manytouts scammers.

www.merzouga-tours.com/en/marrakech.html

Good personal exp in past have fun!

Thanks again Qwo!

sea61 doesn't seem to exist, at least at that web address, but I will check out the other.

I don't particularly want to be stuck with a guide the whole time, but I do want it to be "easy" -- and guides do that.

Cheers

TF

You'd think someone who spent all their time posting web addresses would manage to get them right. What qv should have written was seat61.com/morocco

ROFL. I went to their website, can you tell me what is special about them?

thanks!

Be aware he is the same one suggesting that Tour, just post it on google and see people who used it, you will not get any news about so such tours are really scaring me, put someone here to encouraging the users to use them and get the commissions for it, i warn you, just use the Lonelyplanet threads, or the Tripadvisor forums and you will see the correct and the right aanswer for all your enquiries.
Good luck in your paths.

hey again,
You can travel yourself in Morocco using public transportation, Easy than Tours stuck with the guide taking you to shops, and harrassing you all the time, skip that option and take it alone you will meet other travellers wanding Morocco themselves so will be easier for you, other wise ask for advice for single woman alone in Morocco and you'll find many threads already discussed here: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/forum.jspa?forumID=9&keywordid=35
good luck.

planetraveller - the editors have been notified several times about this particular poster - they choose not to do anything about it - and, as you'll soon see, delete any negative posts about him.

dogster - maybe we should start a petition. It's getting beyond annoying. Enough that I'm thinking of finding a new site.

Me too.

There is a modus operandi, as I'm sure you've noticed. He targets new posters, almost exclusively. You can follow his progress every day by doing what he does: click on the New Posts list on each forum page. Click, every post - there he is, usually top of the list. He has recommended insuremytrip.com more that 700 times in the last twelve months. No that is not a typo - seven hundred times.

He never returns to a post or involves himself in ongoing discussion. He never answers a question or elaborates. Just continues to flog the same sites and offers dated, misleading information which, to a newbie, read like real suggestions.

Nothing will happen - of course, these posts will be deleted. His will remain.

Kind of amazing that Lonely Planet's thorntree (!) booted him but Fodors won't.

They know all about it so have clearly made a conscious decision to let him continue. I guess he fits their agenda.

Let's see how long our posts last... indeed, let's see how long we last. In 24 hours it was be as if nothing was ever said.

i agree with thursdaysd, true the lonelyplanet make every suspected topic down, and kept the spammers away but this one does not, so hopefully they can stop it or we can just following them always, to criticise in every topic suspected, so we can get them back.

I just wonder what's the reason to let Qwovadis always posting his spams here, does not he work, does he love Morocco in his first time, one time will not let you know the reality of those tours, you can just check out if they have helpful reviews in many search engines you can find helpful info about them, otherwise use the Lonelyplanet threads and the Tripadvisor Forums to guiding you to the right and the correct one.

SO are y'all saying I can't believe a word he says, or just to do my checking myself? That particular tour group, Merzouga, has a three day tour that is just what I want to do...

Can anyone recommend a car and driver company?

I am looking to sprinkle a couple of tours in along with my own travels. But still hoping to get some basic info about what to see and what to skip...

I know I want to go to Marrakesh and Essaouira and Fes for the -- do I also want to do Casablanca? Meknes?

Many thanks!

TF

Rabat rather than Casa. Meknes was OK, Volubilis a bit too ruined.

hey, you can check out yourself no need to another's touts, why should he suggest that, did you read something helpful about it, it could be his website only to attract you as a group of nomads guides, anyway; you can find tours and transportation companies, on the Tripadvisor, or ask through the Lonelyplanet they will guide you exactly to what will suit your travel needs, avoiding all of this mirage which will damage your trip.

It is unfortunate that the Fodor's editors don't understand or care that it is very likely that quovadis gets paid for every hit sent to a site from his posts on Fodor's.

he always report everyone's post when some traveller posting a helpful trip report he report it to the guidelines to remove it and they did so unfortunately so he can do his job here, to post his touts, anyway be aware from QUOVADIS, he is a spammer he is not a real traveller who gives the advice, he is only old member here and using his skills to cheat you and get commissions and work through your plans to go to Morocco, anyway; this an Alert for that Member posts and he is spreading his touts in North african Countries no only Morocco's forum so does he know well about all this countries? NO WAY.
Please if you feel that there is something suspicious in his replies use the Lonelyplanet, or Tripadvisor's forums for help to get good tips, and avoide the people who ask you to arrange your trips through yoour riad that is a big and huge mistake to do and totaly wrong wrong wrong, thos members who ask you that, they are the owners of many riads hotels in Marrakech or Fes and they arrange day trips or even tours, which means they put the travel agencies in bad situation, do not do that because those riads rippping you off will take you to the shops, and make a big deal in your pocket as they could offer you a day trip for free or even for a small amount of Money for not even discovering the stealing point, take a tour company to arrange your trip, as it's better to take a local Tour which will give you a good care, because they are afraid for their reputation, so they can give you a good trip, pass you through many good spots where you can have good lunch, good accommodations, and good shops where they will not ripp you off as you can take things with a local price, i hope all this tips will help you in your travels, and i hope that Fodoor will keep it and save it for everyone plans to go Morocco.

dogster, since we're still here, interesting thread on Lonely Planet on qv: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=2082034

Some highlights:

If you hanker for this drivel have a look on the Fodor's site.

Some answers were breathtakingly wrong.

There is another prolific poster who is a bit more upfront about being a travel agency but who also gets a lot of answers wrong.

Fascinating stuff, thursday. Quite how this person survives in here is beyond me. However, I have elicited a response.

http://www.fodors.com/community/africa-the-middle-east/merzouga-tours-anyone.cfm

In part:
qwovadis on Feb 7, 12 at 6:14pm

Dogster be careful your attacks on me will get you banned..
Why not just focus on helping others that is what we
are all here to do.The links are courtesy to newbies
I am paid 0 just here to help newbies which is what you might focus on. Just a reminder...

fodors.com posting guidelines

Please remain civil and refrain from personal attacks on other posters. Sarcasm, no matter its intent, is a tricky thing to interpret online and may be perceived as a personal attack.Personal attacks and offensive comments will be removed and can result in the suspension of your account.

dogster on Feb 7, 12 at 8:01pm

I'd say this exchange is perfectly civil. The best defence is truth.

For example, you have touted insuremytrip.com over seven hundred times in the last twelve months. Yup, I counted.

That is fact, not a personal attack.

If bringing a staggering figure like that to the moderator's attention gets me banned, well, then this site is yours.

Strangely, the same thing happened to one contributor in Thorntree. He was banned and all his posts were removed.

Now, what was his name...? Oh, it was you.

That is fact, not a personal attack.

So, while I have your attention, perhaps you might consider pulling back from your blizzard of daily replies. Some might call it obsessive. Perhaps you might consider not flogging the same sites hundreds of times. Insuremytrip is just one of many. Perhaps you might consider not attaching links that don't work. Perhaps you might consider not linking to sites that require registration before viewing. Perhaps you might consider telling your beloved newbies that your recommendations are based on trips you made ten, maybe twenty years ago. Perhaps, when you cut and paste from other authors you might consider giving attribution. Perhaps you might refrain from political statements about events in countries you haven't visited in years. Perhaps you might make an attempt to make your posts understandable. Perhaps you might respond to ongoing dialogue in a thread, even to questions about your sources - something you have, I note, failed to do once again.

Why? Because you're really peeing people off.

And that, my friend, is fact, not a personal attack.

And if calling you on this behavior gets me banned, well, I'll be happy to go.

Hi dogster - yes, I saw that. Amazing that you actually got a reply out of him. I just sent an email to Amy, I copied you.

I wonder if qwo is as good of a portfolio doctor as he is a travel advisor?

he is only a good spammer, that's all he has really makes everybody here suffer and bored by his suggestions, just follow his steps you'll get lost. in the other forums of other countries he can not do anthing in a compare to this, he will report all of this so just be aware he has reported my Morocco Travel tips Topic which i have posted yesterday, moreover; he has reported many topics of mine upon here, just please everyone who read this just to be careful.
Alerts !!!!QWovadis

OMG! What is Thorntree? Dogster BTW your profile pic reminds me of a sign on a butcher shop in Delhi. It read "pig meet."

Thorntree is Lonely Planet's version of these forums. Much more, er, free wheeling.

Seems qv also got booted from tripadvisor. Massively prolific posts suddenly stopped Dec 2010.

Doesn't seem to have made it to Frommers yet.

Hmmm. Well if he gets booted from here Frommers may be next. Nothing personal but hey free ads are not allowed here.

The only light on the horizon is that all these posts still remain. Unfortunately, so does the problem.

Gee, I hope that every post of mine doesn't turn into a thread about QV. I imagine that you are very frustrated, and I'm sure that I will be soon, too, but I REALLY REALLY REALLY would like some suggestions on cars and drivers and touring companies, etc.

thank you

Sorry, but I didn't use a car and driver. Did you read my trip report? I used trains in the north, a bus for Marrakesh-Essaouira, and an Intrepid tour.

I did read your trip report, but there was so much information that it didn't all "stick". I will go back again to the part about M-E. Would you recommend taking the bus to an older woman? Is the train an option (I haven't gotten that far in my planning)?

Alas, I AM an older woman, lol. No train to Ess, bus or car. Better to book the bus a day or so ahead.