I don't know how to get started planning my trip...

Simple question, but no simple answer. There are imitless options (and limitless source materials), and very few of them (so long as you are careful) are really bad, so long as you're going to Africa.

It sounds like you have done some reading, but you probably should still do some more. Start general, then get more specific and you go along. Maybe try the onsafari.com FAQ page or the Siyabona.com site to get some general info first and maybe help narrow down your preferences.

Since you will be traveling alone and would prefer being in a small group, you should consider some of the multitude of operators who offer those (rather than a private customized safari for your first time), such as go2africa, Micato (excellent but expensive), OAT, etc., etc. Some serve both East and Southern Africa, some not.

Good luck, it certainly can be a bit overwhelming, but at least it's overwhelming in a good way.

I can picture you on a mobile tented safari in Botswana. Wilderness Safaris has several, which include both the mobile tents and permanent tented camps. You can't book directly with WS; you have to go through a safari planner. However, you can check them out at www.eyesonafrica.net. There are two styles, Discoverer and Adventurer, so see which would appeal to you. There are also other companies that run mobile safaris in the Delta, such as Masson's and Wild Lifestyles.

Additionally, there are luxury permanent tented camps, but they have gotten quite expensive. Finally, one of our contributors (PredatorBiologist) recently took a trip to Botswana, staying in less expensive (or well known) camps and had a great experience.
http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=4&tid=35092404
Lots of options for a wonderful wilderness experience!

aknards, I was in a similar situation a few years ago -- mid-50s, traveling solo, love animals and the thought of safari, didn't know where to begin. [OK, there are also some differencs: different gender, and I'll make my 4th safari next summer.]

One overriding thought that I hope you keep in mind is that there is no 1 right answers, and there are many, many good answers. With that said, and based on your criteria, here are my thoughts:

- If you expect to make only one trip to sub-Saharan Africa, make the trip to Botswana. This is a magical land with magical people, separated from the rest of the world by more than simply the miles. The variety of geographies (especially between land and water-based camps), the remoteness of it all, and the magnificent creatures add up to an amazing experience. I've had fabulous safaris to South Africa and Kenya, but my experiences in Botswana stand head and shoulders over the others.

- You are wise to look for comfortable, tented accommodation. For me, the difference between a tent and a standalone chalet is enormous -- I feel much closer to nature in a tent. And you will not have a problem finding tented camps with flush toilets and hot water showers.

- The best time can vary depending on where you choose to go. Fortunately, there's lots of information available on best times of year for various spots.

- While I can understand your looking to be part of a group when traveling to a totally new place, I have found that traveling solo to safari camps has been wonderful. I have been met at the airports by representatives of the ground operators that my travel agent used, and the travel parts went smoothly. At the camps and on drives, I've never felt isolated or awkward, and the camaraderie among safari-goers seems to cut across any social barriers. The only exception I've experienced was one night in Kenya when the entire camp (except for me) was rented out by a group, but that seems to have been an unusual situation.

- As for how to go about it all, I'd suggest that you first decide on the region that you want to go to. Then, consider whether you want to do an organized (pre-set) tour, or a tailor-made safari. If you go for tailor-made, then you'll need to choose an appropriate agent -- but that's a long way off.

First, I suggest you decide what your budget is. There are two basic choices. I believe if you want the best bang for your buck Eastern Africa is probably your best bet as far as good game viewing per dollar.

I have not been to Southern Africa but I understand (and I am sure others will correct me) you get a more intimate experience there but for more money.

If you go to Kenya or Tanzania you will see many more animals and all sorts of them. I understand the brush in much thicker in Southern Africa. However, you are likely to see many more game vehicles. I counted 18 trying to see the first leopard we saw (in the Samburu in Kenya).

You should also take a look at the very illuminating East Africa Index:

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=4&tid=34860283

Following is specific link to our trip to Kenya in August last year:

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=4&tid=34868269


Also, time of year will dictate where best to go.

Finally, would strongly suggest you try and find a friend to go with you. Single supplements tend to be very expensive.

Kevin from California

Link to South Africa Index:

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=4&tid=34868269

Oops let's try this again re Southern:

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=4&tid=34858382

aknards,

I think I know how you feel. I had the same sense of being overwhelmed 11 months ago when I started researching safari options. Despite all that, the more you learn, the more things will start to take shape for you. In the end, it’s a pretty personal matter of figuring out what it is you want. Then there’s the equally tough matter of reconciling what you want with what you can afford!

I started by reading Mark Nolting’s book “Africa’s Top Wildlife Countries.” For me, as a complete newbie, this book provided a great overview of the different countries, the wildlife parks and preserves in each, what kinds of animals you’re likely to see and where, what time of year is “best” for different areas and different countries, and much more. I found it a great introduction to the whole topic and it really helped provide a foundation.

Next, this forum. As you’ve no doubt already found, it’s a gold mine of information. I read every trip report I ran across to get a sense of what people were actually experiencing and where. One of the links I found here took me to e-gnu.com where rack rates for a lot of camps can be found ( http://www.e-gnu.com/searchAccomodation2.asp ). These may not be wholly accurate, but I believe they get you into the right ballpark and it was an eye-opener that brought some reality to the question of what I wanted vs what I could afford. Especially as a solo traveler, the single rates at many places are just astronomical.

When I felt like I was beginning to get a sense of what I wanted, where I thought I wanted to go, and how much money I could realistically afford, I started to talk to an Africa specialist travel agent. There are several that are frequently mentioned on this board and are reliable and knowledgeable. Especially as a newbie, you need the help of a professional who can match your desires and your budget to something real on the ground.

It’s a process all right, and it’s sometimes difficult – especially when reality collides with desire. In the end, however, “wow” was it worth it! I had 10 days on a mobile camping safari in Botswana, followed by 4 days at Mala Mala, and I think that my every expectation was exceeded So, I’m a “veteran” now of one African Safari! And, like everyone else that comes to this forum, I started thinking about my next trip before the first was over! Take your time and enjoy the process. I know you’ll enjoy the result, whatever it is.

I have been to Africa twice with OAT - Ultimate Africa in 2005 which is a fly-in safari to Botswana, Namibia and Zimbabwe staying in small mostly tented camps which are very comfortable and private and The Best of Kenya and Tanzania in 2007 staying in a mix of Serena Lodges and tented camps. Both trips were wonderful and a great value, especially Ultimate Africa which was a bit lower in price. Actually, I would say Ultimate Africa was an amazing value considering all of the included flights, the intimate private camps and all you could drink (alcoholic and non-alcoholic).

Game viewing was great in both East Africa and Southern Africa. More cats in the east, more elephants in the south. Lots of other vehicles encountered in the east, almost none in the south. More spectacular scenery in the east and more cultural experiences. More emphasis on game in the south and more relaxing because of flying vs many hours on the road.

I would suggest contacting OAT (Overseas Adventure Travel) for a catalog so you can take a look at what they have to offer. OAT limits its trips to 10 to 16 people and caters to people over 50 but often has younger travelers. You can travel easily as a single or OAT will try to find you a roommate if you don't want to pay the single supplement.

Keep visiting this site. You will find lots of good suggestions for other options.

Aknards,

I had the same thought as ShayTay, a mobile in Botswana, based on your desire to leave crowds behind. If time, maybe some days in the Sabi Sands in South Africa.

Botswana has tremendous diversity of environment from desert to delta, with excellent wildlife.

Good luck finding a friend to join you. I’ve rarely been able to rustle up a traveling companion and go solo much of the time, like you are planning to do. Solo in Africa is a breeze.

The mobile safari offers the advantages of group travel: less costly and companionship. A Wilderness or other quality run safari would take you to good game areas. (If some other links to differnet mobile operators do not materialize, I’ll put some in within a day or two.) You can usually control whether you are willing to share a tent or have your own accommodations. A few days in Sabi Sands in South Africa, after the mobile, would offer other advantages: solo travel but a shared vehicle (unless you requested a paid for a private one), outstanding game viewing of predators, a limit of 3 vehicles per sighting, a different environment from Botswana.

The reason it is so hard to make a choice is that there are so many. It’s like deciding where to spend 2 weeks in the US.

The good old days of the experienced travel agent might not help you that much here. You want an African specialist, not a typical travel agent, no matter how experienced.

This site has a Q&A format to help you.

http://www.fisheaglesafaris.com/choosedestination.htm

Here is Botswana & South Africa weather.

http://www.uyaphi.com/botswana/weather.htm
http://www.uyaphi.com/afriweather.htm


This site shows the best wildlife viewing throughout the year in different parks.
http://africa-adventure.com/dsp_besttime.html

Look at this report. I think something like this would be ideal for you.
http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=4&tid=35087419
http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=4&tid=34858382
I’ve done a Wilderness Botswana mobile and stayed at Mala Mala, just never combined them. Both were outstanding.

One comment on Mala Mala alone. The ranger eats with the people in his vehicle so you have at least one winner at your table in my opinion because the rangers are hospitable with good people skills. When I was at MM, my vehicle-mates were also good company, but that’s not a guarantee. Anyway, I want to do a combo like this sometime, and think anyone would enjoy this.

I see RickMck, who did the trip I suggested above, already got a suggestion in himself.

Here is the Wilderness site.
http://www.wilderness-safaris.com/
Explorations are where the group mobiles are. This site also has the permanent tented camps which are absolutely lovely with good to outstanding game, and very expensive in high season, when wildlife viewing is best. See that e-gnu site RickMck listed.

Any Wilderness safari or property must be booked via an agent. There are many reputable companies that book Wilderness. I’ve used Africa Adventure (Ft. Lauderdale) and Eyes on Africa (Chicago) for Wilderness trips. Fish Eagle (Houston) gets good reviews and I’ve been impressed with my interactions and info from them.

If you choose Southern Africa, you will miss the wildebeest and zebra migration in Kenya/Tanzania, which many people associate with African wilderness and wildlife. Just so you are aware.

Good luck and please post as your plans develop.

Wow, technology can be truly amazing! Thank you, everyone, that's already responded. Now for some really ignorant questions back to you...

rizzuto, you said something that I think is of major significance to me. I thought a "private tour" meant client(s) and guide, staying "privately" alone in the tent camp that they reserved. Were you saying that a private tour for me would mean that I plan it the way I want it; (somehow) arrange for a guide; and when we get to each location the other tents are occupied by people who have done the same as me? So that I won't be alone all the time with just the guide? I'm so confused. Do the other people have their own guides? How do meals and drives work? Do we all eat together and share vehicles? Is all that provided by the camp? I'm really not a moron, I've successfully planned all my trips, but this is so much more complex, complicated by all the unfamiliar African names. What's really throwing me, I think, is the terminology. I just got back from two weeks in Israel. My family hired a private guide. He was with us 24/7, in our private van (no other people), going with us from city to city. He escorted us to restaurants and all activities which we did privately. So, this whole guide thing and vehicles that can and can't cross borders and private reserves...ahhh, yes, I definitely need to do more reading.

Lynn has a lot of good information (as always!) In 2006, we went to Botswana, then spent three days at Kirkman's, which is next to (and used to be part of) Mala Mala. This area is known as the Sabi Sand reserve and borders Kruger NP. You are almost guaranteed to see leopards and rhinos there, which you might not see in Botswana. Kirkman's is now part of CC Africa, and they don't usually charge a single supplement. Per their website for Kirkman's: "Single supplement waived for first two single rooms on any one booking."

I'm just curious...who are you guys? Obviously you're connected by your love of Africa and most of you seem to have travelled there extensively. But, you also seem to know one and other, or am I mistaken? Are some of you travel professionals?

As Sandi's already figured out, I'm not very experienced using talk forums, so forgive me if I've just crossed talk boundaries by asking (feel free to inform me of what proper forum etiquette is...)

aknards, the daily cost of the camp includes (typically) one morning and one afternoon game drive, and the game driver will have a guide (driver) and, at many camps, a tracker. You will be paired up with 2-5 other guests who are staying at the camp, and you'll have the same guide throughout your stay. The guide is usually an employee of the camp (or the organization that owns the camp).

Some of the people who post on the board are indeed tour operators or agents. Others, like myself, have no financial connection to safaris except for having to pay for them. At this time, there's no formal way of identifying who's who except for some due diligence and research in the forum.

A few are safari planners and safari outfitters, but most of us just love to travel to Africa. There have been some rather ugly threads of late about whether the "professionals" should participate and whether they should identify themselves as such. No advertising is allowed on the Board and I think that our cadre of professionals are good about not crossing the line. The editors watch fairly closely, as to the other contributors. I, for one, am thankful for their contributions and am happy with how it currently works. I hope this doesn't start up those disCUSSions again!

I've been to Africa eight times and am passionate about it. Some people prefer private safaris and and other enjoy going with others. I've done both but, for the last couple of years, have organized an annual group safari for friends and others. I just love watching "newbies" experience Africa for the first time! My trip to Kenya next September is this kind of trip. I usually suggest East Africa for first-timers, but your initial e-mail sounded like you might prefer a wilder destination like Botswana, which is my favorite place in Southern Africa, with Sabi Sand a close second.

aknards -

We were at one time in the same place as you... had to start somewhere. Many of us before the Internet and travel forums. But since then, we've gained experience and made return trips, so are glad to share what we can. Don't give it another thought.

Ask questions and we'll do our best to assist. Believe me, we're an eclectic group of Africaphiles

ShayTay,
Thank you for your candor. I find this forum fascinating, and I can't believe my good luck in stumbling onto it.

In my wildest dreams I can't imagine going to Africa eight times! Since I was little and first read Joy Adamson's trilogy, I've never stopped promising myself I'd get there. I was married 24 years - we went to Turkey, Portugal, Italy, etc., but I couldn't convince my husband to go to Africa. Well, now I'm alone and I'm finally going.

In just the last 24 hours, this forum has helped me start putting the pieces together. If one reads long enough and goes back far enough, every question's been asked and answered (numerous times) on this site. What a treasure!

Yes, the Forum is a great resource! As within any community, our experiences and personalities run the gamut. Some of us have actually gotten together, face-to-face. That was a lot of fun, putting faces to screen names and sharing experiences.

Dear Aknards

You've already had some great advice above, will try and add my random thoughts in a moment.

But firstly, you mentioned that many of us here seem to know each other and that's true - many of us are regular posters here and over the years we've asked questions, helped each other, witnessed each other's frustration, dithering and then excitement as a trip comes together, read each other's trip reports on our returns so that we feel we've almost lived each other's trips!!!
I started posting here back in 2000 (I'd been posting on the Europe board for quite a while already) as I had a trip in 2001.

And, as with many here, the trip came and went and I quickly realised that here were a bunch of people who shared my passions and understood th sadness that the trip was over, the wonderful memories, the yearning to go again.

With further advice from this board I planned a much longer trip (9 weeks) in 2004 and have just booked another one for next year.

As has been mentioned, a number of posters here are involved in the industry as safari planners, agents, operators, guides and perhaps even camp owners. Most are here not because they are looking for clients but because they, even more so than the rest of us, since they have made it their career, love Africa and love to share the joys of a good trip there.

In terms of your post... I agree with the suggestions of Botswana as a country that may fit your expectations of uncrowded and photogenic wildlife viewing. The advantage of many of the camps in Botswana is their small size - many have betwen 3 and 10 tents only which means 6 to 20 guests in total! There's nothing like feeling that one is truly in the wilderness and that there are many, many more animals than people sharing it with you! The downside of Botswana is that it is a pretty expensive safari destination though with advice from here you'll certainly be able to make your money go as far as it can.

But if your internal vision of Africa is the wide open savannah's of the Mara-Serengeti, punctuated by thorn trees and stalked by prey and predators then it may be better to opt for East Africa. Whilst there are certainly instances of many, many vehicles around a sighting (something I and many others have witnessed) it is possible, as I have learned from others here, to plan a trip that minimises that occurence. Again, that means staying in the smaller camps which ups the cost.

I would ask a few more questions, indelicate though they may seem.

Can you give an idea of your budget? Often people ask questions saying only that they have a small, medium or large budget or even that money is not an issue until they actually realise quite how high the cost can go! If you could give even a rough idea of your maximum budget (excl. of international air fare) it would help greatly.

Are there any particular animals you dream of seeing? Recommendations will differ if you respond with leopards or lions or wild dogs or a particular type of bird...

Does your 2 weeks include international travel time; if so where are you travelling from (so we can take off the appropriate number of days when helping propose possible destinations/ itineraries)?

Hi Kavey,

You asked excellent questions and I don't mind at all - in fact, I welcome your help. It's interesting that you mention the vision of wide open savannah because that's what I've always pictured, preferably with Kili somewhere in the background (I know that's incredibly cliched but, sorry, that's what I've always imagined...) So, until I found this Board, I was thinking possibly Tanzania/Kenya. But, the consensus here seemed to be that East Africa is very overcrowded and Botswana would be more of what I'm looking for.

What animals do I want to see? Lots and lots of lions, elephants and giraffes (I know, those giraffes are tougher to find.) Everything else would be terrific "icing."

My budget? I'm almost afraid to say because I've already made myself look the fool on this Board, but what the hell. Without international airfare, (I live in North Carolina, so could fly out of Atlanta or NY), I have about $6500 to spend. My 14-15 days would probably have to include overseas travel.

So, here's a really tough question I need to ask: do I have enough $$ and time to do a safari "justice" or, should I postpone this trip until I have more of both? (Obviously, more time and money would be ideal, but you know what I'm saying.) This is a real reality check for me, I kind of scared of the answers I'm going to get. However, if I'm going to do this, I want to do it right... Obviously, I'm not expecting you to make this decision for me, just offer an opinion. thanks

My two cents: You definitely have enough time and money to have a great safari. Of course the "ideal" is tented camps everywhere and unlimited time and private game drives... but that's not the only way to have a wonderful experience in Africa.

Just to give you an idea, the Kenya portion of our trip this past September/October was 10 days long, and we stayed in mostly larger, "middle-of-the-road" lodges like the Serenas (with one unexpected upgrade because of overbooking). We had our own private vehicle and driver and did it all by road except for the final flight back to Nairobi from the Masai Mara. By the time we got to the end of our time in Kenya, we were completely floored by the amount of wildlife we'd seen, and the amazing experiences we'd had along the way. We still had another 10 days to go in Tanzania but honestly, if we had stopped the trip right then I would have felt like it was the best trip of my life. The Kenya portion of our trip cost less than $3000 per person. So please don't be discouraged!

thanks, MyDogKyle. you just made my evening!

East Africa is not as crowded as some people may think. Yes, you'll see other vehicles, but you'll also see those wonderful vistas that you have pictured. When I'm photographing a leopard in a tree, I really don't care if there are people in other vehicles doing the same thing. You'll also see the vast Migration herds in East Africa (if you time it right.) East Africa is also more affordable than southern Africa.

For the Kenya group trip I've got planned for next September, we're staying in a combination of safari lodges and nicer tented camps, including the Royal Mara Lodge which only has 6 tents. If I get my full group of 12, we'll have the whole camp to ourselves. This trip would definitely fit your budget, even with the tented camps. I've got several solo female travelers who are going and I'm matching them up as "roomies". It's amazing how many of the travelers I see in Africa are women. On my last trip to Tanzania, our group ended up being 10 women and we had such a great time traveling together.

Hi again aknards,

I don't know whether all this advice and suggestions are helping or further clouding the situation! I come back to the "personal" nature of what you want to experience and what you want to see (paricularly animal-wise).

OK, you mentioned a budget of about $6500 in-country. That's about what my October safari cost me (exclusive of air from DC to Jo'burg, it was $6200 [it would be a little higher now in 2008 than it was in 2007]).

Lynn has already posted this link to my abbreviated trip report:

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?screen_name=rickmck&fid=4

As a first-timer, I couldn't have been happier. The 10d mobile in Botswana was fabulous, as the trip I was on covered the same territories where solo guests in the permanent tented camps can easily pay $1,000 pppn and up. And guess what? I saw the same great areas and the same amazing animals that they saw for a fraction of the price. If you enjoy camping, or even if you can just put up with it (!), this is a great way to go on what turns out to be a modest budget by Botswana standards.

That $6200 included internal Africa airfare and 4d / 3n at Mala Mala in South Africa (using their one room that they offer without a single supplement). Honestly, I would have been happy ending the trip with the mobile, but MM was great. A very different experience, but as close as you can get to "guaranteed" great wildlife viewing of several elusive species -- especially Leopards, Lions, and Rhino (if you're really lucky, Cheetah and Wild Dog too).

The remoteness of the Botswana mobile, the great variety of ecotones we stayed in and passed through, the closeness to nature of the camping experience, and the amazing diversity of animals, coupled with a few days of relative luxury at MM and it's fantastic game viewing (especially the Leopards), was a perfect introduction to Southern Africa. I'm not trying to sell you a safrai here, but just want to point out that there remain great opportunities out there at prices that you and I can still afford.

One other thing (although there are probably 100 other things) you should be aware of are the ancillary costs of a first trip to Africa. These include things like a visit to a travel medical clinic for shots, pills, and prescriptions (about $300 in my case), upgrades to camera and other travel equipment, provision of cash tips for safari guides, trackers, and camp staff, etc. The more you visit this board and read the threads, the more you will pick up on these "details" as well.

Sorry, that link should be:

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=4&tid=35087419

rickmck

ShayTay,

What's your take on the travel advisories for travel in Kenya?

rickmck,

Thanks for the reminder about "ancillary" costs...every party needs a pooper. Nah, just fooling, I asked for the hard facts when I signed on this board. Actually, I already figured on an additional grand, (and that's probably not enough), based on what I read from other people's comments.

I look forward to reading your report.

ShayTay...I think you're just the one to answer my question. I've been reading for days now, posted a question but didn't get much response, but aknards seems to have worded it better then me. I want to take my son to Africa before he starts HS next August. We can go anywhere in Africa between Second week of March up to when school begins. He LOVES animals, wants to work with them, loves the big cats in particular. You've been there ALOT....if you could go anywhere in Africa with no budget, what would be your dream trip? We can be gone for up to about 3 weeks, give or take. We can stop over....we are in Northern Ca so we can go west (we travel alot to the UK and Canada. and somewhat Hawaii, and I prefer going west only because we just back from Italy a few months ago and I don't want to go the same way..make sense?) I don't mind stop=overs for a few days here or there on the way or way back. Where would you go, and how would you get there? What haven't you done that you would love to do? What would be the ultimate trip, in your qualified opinion? Really appreciate your input. I always try and counter help from others with visiting boards I can return the favor to someone else...so I', off the the UK board. Will check back here tomorrow!!
Thanks again.

The first thing when travelling is 1.Your choice destination you will visit.

2.Your budget

3.Dates of travelling

4.Itinerary

maasai/Paul

Wow! I went to sleep and woke up to a travel guide and sample itinerary. You're either very kind, or very tired of hearing us newbies whine "I don't know how to get started planning my trip", or both.

Thanks for taking so much time.

maasai -

sounds like your postings came right out of your brochure!

aknards,
Be wary of posters who get a little too detailed and specific on their recommendations to you. You can click on the posters name, and on the left all their previous posts will pop up. You can then tell pretty quickly if they are just a fellow traveler with good advice or somebody who is pushing a pretty consistent agenda.

I spent two years planning my Sept/Oct. 2007 trip to Kenya/Tanzania, so I, along with everybody here, know what you are going through, and you are getting good advice. I will repeat what was said:

1) come up with a budget
2) determine your destination
3) determine your travel times
(sometimes travel times will help to determine where you go--if you can only travel at certain times, you would go to where the best game viewing is for that time of year. You indicated you could go anytime, so that might not be an issue. However, really think about when would be best to travel for you. That might help narrow down the destination choices, which could make decision making easier. Unless you could pick the one destination that you absolutely HAVE to see, which would be the nicest way to go, and the time of year would follow. But it does not sound like you can do that....?)

After you come up with a region and a time of year, you can start to explore actual parks and camps. Don't get involved in that part yet, it is too much distraction.

You have enough money budgeted to do a beautiful safari, and enough time to do it.

maasai's stuff not only sounds like it came out of his brochure, it in fact did come directly from his brochure:

http://www.destination-connect.com/kenya/14nightseastafrica.htm

I would avoid, like the plague, anyone who advertises like that on Fodor's.

Aknards

I didn't mean to make fun when I asked if your mental vision of Africa was those wide open savannahs and thorn trees - I think it's one that many of us have/had and it comes from the many films of the '70s and '80s based in Kenya and Tanzania.

The reason I mentioned it is because, although I too think Botswana is one of the most incredible places on earth for wildlife lovers, it's a very different landscape to that of East Africa's savannahs. Then again, there's little on earth to rival the Okavango Delta especially when combined with places such as the Makgadikadi Pans, Linyanti/ Chobe.

However, for lions, elephants and giraffes you will certainly be extremely well served by East Africa and will be able to visit that internal vision of your dreams too.

Certain parks are best for certain animals. Those who have many visits under their belt or have returned more recently are in a better position to advise on that front than I.

To keep costs down you could easily spend the entire two weeks in Kenya or Tanzania alone. In Kenya you can create an itinerary taking in some of the following parks/reserves/conservancies: Mara, Meru, Aberdares, Amboseli, Samburu, Tsavo plus perhaps one of the Lakes if you are interested in a wider variety of environments. In Tanzania you could create an itinerary including destinations such as Serengeti, Ngorngoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha and many more and perhaps include a side-trip to Mahale.

I would certainly do some internet research to find out more about these destinations so that you can narrow down to one or a combination of two countries.

Create a very rough draft of which parks you'd like to visit and at that point contact a safari planner, agent or operator to find out whether the chosen places combine well together in terms of transport between them and so on. At that point you can start working on the details and selecting actual camps/lodges based on price and preferences!

It was quite obvious to me that masaai's info wasn't original and that he surely must be "in the industry". However, even if he did cut and paste his response, he took the time, so I thought it deserved a "thanks".

And, thanks to the rest of you for looking after us newcomers but, rest assured, while I'm Africa naive, I'm not naive...

Aknards,

I've skipped the last dozen or so posts for now. I am just answering "who are you guys?"

Answering for one guy only, actually a gal...I am somebody who loves nature and so my travels all revolve around it. Africa has become my favorite destination. In order to visit this magical (and expensive) destination every few years or more, my entire lifestyle is adjusted accordingly. That would be a downward adjustment.

I am not employed in the travel industry or related to any agent, outfitter, etc.

This site seems to be the best outlet for discussing Africa so it has become an almost daily routine. It appears others feel the same way and many of us have become buddies here.

I have met a total of 3 Fodorites while traveling in Africa. I keep a loose contact with one of them. I hope to travel with a couple more that I have met on this board. Others have paired or tripled up for trips together in the past. Speaking of...in Aug of 2009 Divewop, me, and hopefully some others want to do several gorilla visits in Rwanda, then maybe Kenya. You can see if that would be of any interest to you.

That brings me to a question you posed elsewhere on Kenya and the US state dept warning.

The warning has been there and is since about 2001 and is updated about every 6 months. Tourism to Kenya from all over the world is at record (or near record) numbers. That can actually pose some problems during high season.

Check the wording of the US Kenya warning vs. places like Iraq, Afghanistan, or other hot spots. It is not as daunting.

Numerous conservative, respectable, reliable travel companies that do not want to risk problems with their clients have been running fully booked Kenya trips for years now. Examples: A&K, OAT, Globus, Tauk, Natural Habitat. There are many more.

If you choose Kenya (and I am planning a return) just check any travel insurance you may purchase. Some reduce coverage in areas with a State Dept. warning.

I think there is actually a "Worldwide Caution" warning that is currently in effect. That's for going anywhere.

I am cautious in my traveling and am not planning trips to Iran or Democratic Republic of Congo. But I'd go to Kenya.

I'll look at all those other posts later to see what destinations you are leaning toward. Your question has generated some great responses and will be a good thread to refer others to in the future.

Welcome to Fodor's aknards! You've gotten some really great info here, which doesn't surprise me, but still makes me very glad.

Kudos to you too for posting such a clear first post; you gave everybody a lot to go on. A nice introduction to who you are as a traveler...

Anyway, welcome to Fodor's!

Hi, Last year at this time I was in the same predicament. I asked the Fodor readers for comments on a safari with a tour group.They said to ditch the planned tour. I could get a private safari for the same cost even. I hadn't thought I could afford a private safari. They helped me plan a 10 night itinerary for Kenya, then I emailed the itinerary to several operators directly- Naked Wilderness, Eastern and Southern, Good Earth, Southern Cross. They all answered promptly and courteously. I narrowed it down to 2-E and S and Naked Wilderness, which had very similar prices for the same tour. I decided on Naked Wilderness because they promised me the guide that I asked for, while E and S wouldn't. We were extremely happy with Naked Wilderness and our guide, Dominique. He was so knowledgable about the animals, plants, culture, and history, attentive to our every request and went out of his way so we could see everything, plus he had a great sense of humor. Everything was handled professionally and courteously.I had dragged my reluctant boyfriend there, but after 3 days, he thanked me for getting him to go. It was truly a trip of a lifetime. Our tour was private, but they also do group tours so you could be with others.
The website is Naked Wilderness.com. Good luck with your planning. If you have any questions, I'll be glad to answer. Joan

Hi, I am also a novice here, so I understand your dilemma. I did a major budget, sadly short trip to Kenya in 2006, and now , like everyone else, I am dying to go back but have no budget. If I had your budget and your flexibility of time,and your lifelong dream, and your freedom from a man, I would think about keeping costs down and staying for a longer time. I love the animals, but for me my trip would not have been complete without connections with the people, and I would search for more of that if I ever get to go back.

There are a lot of experts here, but if you want some ideas on stretching the money to stay longer, you might check out my trip report. I also live in NC, in Raleigh. You don't live in the Triangle area , do you? This was my report: TRIP REPORTART I: BUDGET, NOVICE TRIP TO ETHIOPIA AND KENYA

There is a State Dept website where you can register your trip with them. I think if something did go wrong, it might expedite help and
communication.

The shots were a big expense I did not budget for, but my insurance (BC Federal) did end up paying a good bit, even after they told me they wouldn't.

We only had 2 days in the Mara and one day in Nakuru, but we saw many lions, so many giraffes our guide was tired of stopping for us to take pics, but not as many elephants. I thought we saw an amazing array of animals in a short time and the wildebeast crossing the river with the crocodiles and hippos lying in wait, but more days definitely would have been much better, especially for the pictures I am sure you want to take. We loved the baby elephants at the orphanage in Nairobi. If you love them, adopt one (it was $50/ year in 2006)and you can help feed your animal yourself in the afternoon.

Anyway, just a few thoughts.... The best of luck to you as you finally follow your dream.

You all are amazing. I suddenly feel like those Verizon ads (or is it Cingular?), where the guy is followed around by hundreds of support personnel. I'm no longer alone - I've got my cadre of Fodor's friends at my side, offering help and assistance whenever I need it. If I could, I'd call for a group hug!

Lynn - I appreciate your comments about Kenya and advisories. I wasn't particularly freaked about it, but had encountered a few travel sites that'd suspended tours there, so was just wondering. Also, I'm incredibly flattered that you'd offer me a space in your upcoming adventure but gorillas, for me, will have to wait until I've seen my Big 3 - lions, elephants and giraffes.
Katie H.- thanks for the nice welcome. This Board is awesome.
joanw - did you post a travel report on your trip? If so, I'd love to read it.
efitness - haven't had a chance to look at your link but I'll thank you in advance.

Hi, twoteachers. Trust me, if I didn't have two out of my three kids still at home, I'd be considering doing a Gap year! I'm afraid two weeks is as long as I can pawn them off on family - as it is, I'm truly grateful that they're all making this possible for me. (I'm in Greensboro.)

I wouldn't be too concerned about the State Dept. warnings, either. My first trip to Africa was to Kenya in 1998. I arrived a week after the Embassy bombing. All the news was happening as we were there, including the air raid on Sudan. We had no problems, other than trying to explain good ole Bill and Monica's blue dress!

Big 3 - lions, elephants and giraffes

That is very do-able. They are everywhere.

Lynn,

Here's a tough Big 3 - Cheetah, wild dog, sable or roan.

Not impossible - just tough!!!

jenack (abop2@verizon.net)

Its very Intresting? People be catching feelings in here because I was just candid enough to Help "aknards". Did you want me to give aknards a rough idea or a full Idea. The purpose of this forum is give advice fully. I wasnt advertising its only that I met a lady from UK in another forum and she told me to come and help in here.

Sandi:My posting came out of my head.

Rizzuto: Dont catch feelings because one thing is for sure i didnt put any URL down on this forum so i aint advertising.

And yes I am a travel guide thats right here to help out as much as I can.

Your budget of 6500 USD will surely give u good lodging and camping.

If possible, try to find a "native" from the region or country in Africa your going to. If you currently don't know anyone, start with the local restaurants in your city and ASK questions! They are your BEST resources and can often connect you with family/friends that will often more intimately enhance and personalize your experience. Happy traveling!

aknards,you asked about a volunteer "vacation". My husband and I just returned from an Earthwatch project, "Lions of Tsavo". This we combined with a few days in the Masaii Mara. It was fabulous; we truely felt immersed in nature 24/7, and got to see nocturnal creatures we wouldn't normally have spotted. Earthwatch is a well-respected and established environmental organization. You can google them and send for a brochure. They run a number of important African projects, and depend greatly on paid "volunteers".

The downside was that,since it was a working vacation, we didn't always have the time or opporunity to take photos. We'd taken loads in the Mara, however (yes, in one of those vans circling the animals we both despise - sigh), so we didn't mind too much.

Just another possibility to crowd your already crowded brain!

Shay Tay -

I had a similar experience in '98. Like you, we visited a few months after the Embassy bombings. While my travel partner wanted to cancel, her concern was trip insurance. At that time none of the providers had a "terorism" clause and were "winging it" But, we went and felt perfectly safe in both Kenya and Tanzania.

What brought the smile reading your experience was the Bill & Monica escapades that the entire world was following. When leaving Sopa Lodge at Tarangire, two staff (young man and woman) came for our bags. I asked their names which the guy provided (very common one) and the young woman says "Monica, but not as in Lewinsky."

Thank goodness, by the time we arrived Seychelles, with only 1 TV channel, for a few hours daily, we were able to avoid news of what was going on back home. Thought the newspapers here, in 3/languages - English, French and Seychellois - was full of the details. Besides on World AIDS Day a full day of programming.

As Thomas Freeman titled his book - "the world is flat!"

You need a travel counselor AKA travel agent. They advertise in the Yellow Pages and your local newspaper. Ask friends who they recommend. Travel agents cost you nothing and can save you money, time and effort.

My advice is that you find a friend to travel with you, to avoid expensive single prices. Travel agents “as we knew them” do still exist... We were referred to Vanessa at Southern Destinations in Cape Town by friends who had actually met and spent time with her in Cape Town. So we were given VIP treatment from the first contact. www.southerndestinations.com

The highlight places we stayed at were Mala Mala, Bains Camp in Botswana, The River Club on the Zambian side of Victoria Falls. We spent a total 16 days in SA and Botswana. Worth every cent. We truly felt as if we got the best of the best everywhere we went. We realise we did not go very far off the beaten track, but it was wild enough for us first timers and we felt safe and in good hands throughout. We are talking about a return trip – but life’s other commitments and other destinations (like children living in Europe) are calling for now.

We loved Africa. all of our friends were jealous of our photos of Ngorogo Crater in Tanzania. So many animals of varied kinds. Check out CC Africa online. They have "luxury" tented camps in many African countries. They provided the best places to stay and their drivers/guides knew everything. Their properties were our favorite accomodations.vehicles had up to 6 people plus driver, we were a party of 4, so had one to ourselves.Our travel agent who has BEEN everywhere, set us up thru an Africa packager. We never lifted a finger once we got out of the plane. You need to know that roads are not good there, and most transport in between places is small plane, 14-18 passenger. They land on a piece of dirt and a rover from your camp comes to pick you up! Avoid the big tourst package hotels, you might as well have stayed home and gone to the zoo. If you can afford to do a balloon ride, do. AMAZING. We went to Tanzania and Kenya and were very pleased. we saw so much wildlife, way more tan friend who had gone to SO Africa. Have a great time

More great stuff. Group hug! I wish I could find a friend to go with but none have any interest in Africa. Guess I need some new friends...

I just noted an ad or two on here; it has been removed.

Katie H: Thanks. This Maasai guy obviously is a tout.

Everybody else: Anybody (I guess any lady) want to go with Aknards to Africa? I know at times some groups of ladies have gone together.

Kevin

Kevin, that's so thoughtful of you. Are you single? Just kidding, really I am! I have this kind of warped sense of humor and have trouble sometimes keeping it in tow...

I wasn't kidding about the thoughtful part but would hardly expect anyone to raise their hand for a total stranger. (This is, after all, the internet.) But that's ok, I'm going to Africa in 2008, one way or another. Having said that, if anyone's putting together a group of people and is amenable to meeting someone new, I'm willing to consider all options. Thank you very much.

Meanwhile, I spent a few hours today doing more reading and Botswana is looking better and better...

Unlike many other destinations when alone and having to do much by yourself once on the ground... not so in Africa.

From the time you exit Baggage Claim and then return to airport for homebound flight... there's always someone with. And, once on safari, by road or air, there's always someone to drop you off and pick you up... during game drives, walks or whatever. And, it's rare if you even have to lift your bag. Also, if you choose smaller camps, meals tend to be family style, so you're not in that "eating alone" situation which many find uncomfortable.

Africa, I've found is one of the easiest and nicest destinations for a solo traveler - male or female.

Though my visits over 13/years have been with a male partner or female friend/s or associates, last year I went sole and absolutely loved it!

"I'm a big girl now!"

My husband and I were very pleased with the tour we took with OAT ( overseas adventure travel) about 5 years ago. We visited Kenya and Tanzania and went on many safaris. We also stayed in some tents. A downside for us is the shopping that can't be avoided. there were a few times that the jeeps did gather at the roadside to see something special ( i.e. lions watching the zebras). as I recall, there were 3 jeeps at the most at one site. Hope this helps. feel free to ask more questions.

Katie,

I sincerely hope, you stick to the NO ADVERTISING policy! and hope you have a universal compliance of the rule for the future.

Hari

Hi aknards,

I'm going to Kenya in September 2008 with some friends...wanna join us? I think there will be some solo females that might want a roomie.

Sharon

Aknards,

I would second Sandi's positive comments on traveling alone in Africa. Very easy and solo travel, especially in an area of natural beauty and wildlife, has its advantages.

Here is ShayTay’s last report on East Africa, if you are leaning toward that part of the continent or thinking about joining ShayTay and her group. While East Africa does have more people than Botswana, it is not NYC! A good guide can avoid crowds.

http://fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=4&tid=35030033


Regarding mobiles in Botswana…

The only mobile I’ve done in Botswana was through Wilderness. It was an itinerary no longer offered, but here are current itineraries from Wilderness, along with their much more expensive permanent camps.

http://www.wilderness-safaris.com

The Wilderness mobiles are under Explorations.

Here is a report that included a Wilderness mobile.

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=4&tid=35089092

Here are some more on a Wilderness mobiles.

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=4&tid=34821348

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=4&tid=34928477

This is from Linhelen who sent me an email on Capricorn. I think Wilderness Travel in California uses them (or used them) as their ground operator for mobile camping.
"...experienced travelers and I couldn't have wanted for better company. We were all in synch. ..."

http://capricornsafaris.com/index.html

" ...and they do a good job of stating their philosophy and what they do. The guide was excellent and the hardworking camp staff (6) were very nice as well. I was with only 3 other people, a fellow from Glasgow who had done this trip with the same company over 10(!) times and a couple (she was French and he was English..."

Masson safaris described
http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=4&tid=34684546

Gametrails Botswana
http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=4&tid=34701244

Uyaphi has a useful website. This mobile was discussed once. I don’t know if anyone has gone on it and reported back.

http://www.uyaphi.com/safaris/bots/authenticsafari.htm

I think ccAfrica does mobiles in Botswana too.

http://www.ccafrica.com/expeditions/bots.asp

General discussion of mobiles
http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=4&tid=34866915

Thanks for providing that link, Lynn. My reports aren't as interesting as yours, but I'll keep trying! I know any of those ladies would be happy to talk to Aknards about our safari. Given that she said she was interested in traveling with a group, I thought I'd offer. I like nothing better than traveling through Africa with friends, old and new. My first safari was in Kenya and it's time to return.

Sharon
divedive99 at aol dot com

You will have a great time wherever you choose to go!

That said, I would like to throw in my two cents to consider Zambia. It is in southern Africa, next door to Botswana and is a less expensive than Botswana with a similar experience. The South Luangwa is a great park with several excellent camps. Additionally, there is the Lower Zambezi which has water activities because it is on the river.

Several people on this board have done mobile tented safaris in Botswana and they sound great. It is a way to see this country and keep the cost down as several of the camps are very expensive -- $700 and up a night per person during the season. I believe one company does not charge single supplements but I am not sure which one.

In Southern Africa there is a rainy season and a dry season. The rainy season is less expensive. For a first timer, I would think the dry season is a better time to go. This would be July through October with the cooler temperatures in July and the hottest temperatures(100 or more during the day) in October -- but there is very low humidity which helps a bit -- I am not a heat person so I prefer August when the afternoons are 80's and mornings are 50-60's.

I have been twice -- to Botswana the first time and Zambia the second. Would go back to either in a heartbeat. I would also consider South Africa. For health reasons I will never go to Eastern Africa so I can't speak to that.

We have yet to see Rhino so the next trip will try to be somewhere where there is the chance of them. And as wonderful as lions are, the leopards have my heart!

Good luck with your planning. It really can be overwhelming. We have just planned a trip similar to the one you're interested in for this June. We will spend two nights in Victoria Falls, and two nights in each of three game parks in Botswanna with an optional three night extension to Capetown afterwards. I'd be glad to give you more details, if you're interested.

I have really enjoyed reading this post. It is exactly where I am in my dreams of going to Africa on a safari. I have so many questions !!

I would love for the original poster to contact me at my email wlbox@aol.com. I also live in Greensboro and would love to compare notes.

Just a brief update on my current situation. In one weeks time, I met numerous African veterans, all willing to graciously share their experiences and expertise. I also met three individuals all willing to include me in their safari plans. At this time, I am seriously considering the September Kenya safari being planned by shaytay. As a first timer, it's hard to resist Sharon's tight planning, efficiency and level of professionalism. It's very reassuring to know I'll be in good hands. My decision will be made by the first of the year. To be continued...

aknards,
I've enjoyed reading your thread. You have really gotten good advice. I've been to Africa five times, most recently Kenya, Tanzania, Zambia this September. This was a trip planned for my husband and me by our Africa specialist.

However, as a solo traveler, you might want to look at package trips put together by Zoos. I've been with Zoo Atlanta on two weeks in Kenya/Tanzania. Great trip in agroup of 16. Excellent guide and good value. I know that the North Carolina Zoo puts together two-week all-inclusive trips as well -- I think you said you live in NC. [So do I.] I've not taken the NC Zoo trips to Africa, but did go to Churchill with them to see polar bears -- that was a very well done and great trip.
I'll keep following your progress!
Samcat

Hello everyone and Happy New Years Eve! I just wanted to update all of you who were so incredibly helpful and generous with your time. I've decided to accept ShayTay/Sharon's offer to join her group to Kenya in September.

As many of you pointed out, in choosing where to go in Africa there are no wrong decisions. And, as a first timer, the benefits of Sharon's expertise, planning and friendship seemed invaluable. So, it's Kenya this first go-around...and Botswana, Zim, etc. for trips two, three, and four.

More updates in the new year. A happy, healthy, peaceful one to you all!

Sounds like a great idea. Have a wonderful trip!

I'm looking forward to traveling with a fellow Fodorite! It's always interesting to see that the bulk of the travelers I see in Africa are women. Is it just me, or do the rest of you notice that, as well?

Acknards, Shaytay,

Have a wonderful time. This Forum worked out great for both of you.

First time posting, first safari trip....
Author: Ve
Date;1/12/08, 10:54 pm

Just read aknards post and I was amazed at the similarities over our trips, personal info, etc. and, upon further reading, glad she joined Shay Tay.

I've been on this Forum for weeks and weeks and it has helped me at least to figure out where I want to go and for how long, what my budget will be and what I want to do. I've even started getting my shots before I've even booked, that's how dedicated I am in taking this trip.

I would like to go in Sept. 08 to Tanzania with Zanzibar after the safaris for approx. 14 days total and hope my international airfare can be included in all of it. My budget's about $7,000 and I'm also traveling solo. Want to get in on a ton of safari's so I can photograph the wildlife, would prefer a mixture of lodges and tent camping, just as long as any tent I stay in has bathroom facilities,and I'm in good health and don't mind some short hikes, plus I can run fast if need be.

My biggest dilemma right now is what tour company to choose (betcha you've heard this before). I'm in touch with 4 now and not that crazy about most of their itineraries, some being not so informative.

Going through some brochures and surfing the Internet, I've noticed that some companies include international airfares in their price quotes, say perhaps on a 14 day trip. That means that at least 2 out of those 14 days are spent in the air.....am I right? Then there are other companies that just provide the tour, not including international airfair so you don't lose any of your trip time flying...am I right again?

I'm sort of leaning towards trying some companies again with a better explanation of what I'd like to do and work on my own airfare. Some have offered to come up with an airfare just about equal to Expedia or one of those types of companies. Do they get good airfares for you also?

After being on Fodor's Forum so much I noticed how much Shay Tay, atravelynn, Sandi, Kavey, hguy47, plus many more, are always helping out newbies like myself.

I've traveled a lot all over Europe by myself, but trying to plan a safari is totally different and a lot more difficult than I'd planned on, especially choosing what tour company to go with. Would like to finalize choosing a company before January ends but I guess I'm just not sure how to express myself to the tour companies in what I'd like to do once I get to Tanzania. As for Zanzibar, I don't think I'll have difficulty in finding things to do. After all, how hard is it to lay on the beach, snorkel and beach comb ? Just finding it hard to express what I want to do, don't know locations/names of lodges and/or camps I'd like because there are soooo many to choose from.

Any help for you regulars will be great. Signing off for now...Ve

Ve -

Can I suggest you start a new thread for your trip, with own title, using the above post to introduce your situation. This way you and aknards won't be competing for space in what will become a very long thread.

You'll then be able to monitor your own with our replies and your continuing questions and progress.

I agree with Sandi; start your own thread and we'll help you out. September is usually better in Kenya for the Migration. All of us going to Kenya are watching the situation there, but I'm hopeful that the situation there will be resolved soon.

One question you'll want to consider is if you want to travel alone, or with a group. I enjoy having friends, old and new, along with which to share the experience.

bookmarking

Bookmarking

Now Aknards is back and can advice instead of seek it.

aknards
I was in a similar quandry it seems not a month ago.
the first thing i did was go to the bookstore. here i found fodors the complete african safari planner. it was very helpful.
next i set up a budget.
my choices for destinations were either Tanzania or Botswana after reading the book. Then i did the internet search, looking at the different tour operators and seeing what they offered in terms of itineraries. what types of accomodations they were in, etc.
i still had a hard time deciding between East and southern africa.

that helped me narrow down my search alot.

I am doing this trip with my son for his college graduation- a trip we have dreamt of since he was 5 (so i am not going alone) but hey, its my son, not exactly the only one i want to spend my time with. (and i got him to make the Tanzania/Botswana decision. which he did by deciding on Victoria Falls (so therefore Botswana)

This site is WONDERFUL ask a million questions as everyone is so helpful.

But i do think that there is no wrong destination. you just need to organize some of your priorities.

i would defintely take a look at the State dept website, to check out areas you will feel safe in (that is different for everyone)

anyway what happened with me is that in sending out a few email queries to companies i had a various people setting up sample trips for me.
after looking at them, and speaking to a few operators, asking the million questions i did here, and consulting with some friends,i eventually decided on my dream trip.

And yes it was totally overwhelming at first, but coming to this site is a great first step.

and enjoy the process, learning ALL about afirca is going to be fun.

to recap
1. plan a budget
2. decide what are the most important things for you
3. read various trip reports here of places you think you might be interested in going
4. ask more questions as you go along
5. consider purchasing the safari planner book- it was much simpler to start with then a huge book on each country.

good luck, relax, enjoy, and i look forward to hearing of your progress
amy

ok so I AM AN IDIOT
i will no longer just read the first couple of posts, but go to the bottom,
so this site was just being marked, aha. i didn't read the top date all that closely, i just thought, hey maybe my recent expeiences could Help someone, rather than being the one always asking the questions

We're all idiots, amy, in one way or another... But your advice is nonetheless pertinent and relevant.

Somebody clue me in, what is this "bookmarking" thing that people do? Why? They bring back up to the top an ancient posting to clutter and confuse things? Why?

regards - tom

So they can click on their own screen name to find the thread again since search hardly works.

Imagine a forum...with stickies

Ok, bookmarking, got it. FWIW, for threads I want to keep I do a "Save Page As" or "Save As" then "Web Page Complete" (with a good name) to an Africa folder on my PC.

BTW, anybody notice that "Post a Reply" here on the forum is working differently today than yesterday? Or is it just me

regards - tom

BTW, anybody notice that "Post a Reply" here on the forum is working differently today than yesterday?

Differently how?

Yesterday the reply window page had a different format (for me). The previous thread postings were not to the left side as I see them now but on top with the reply box large and at the bottom. Very mysterious . What I see now today is like was always. One of Santa's mischievous little elves at play???

regards - tom

Nope, didn't see that yesterday.

amycyma,

imagine my surprise to see my year old thread on page one! thank you - you were very kind and helpful and brought back many exciting memories of my trip planning phase. but, alas, i have already gone and come back. now i just daydream, way too often, about my safari. if you care to read some silly stories i put together and/or see some pics, my fodors thread is:

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=4&tid=35165152

you and your son are in for an extraordinary experience! keep us posted.

anita

Hi

Once people think of going to Africa the first Country they think of is South Africa while Africa does have other wonderful countries to visit for wildlife.I can give you an example.Kenya is a wonderful country to be visited.but for you to visit you have to come up first with the budget that you will want to spend, the destinations you want to visit.To look for a touring company that has to take good care of your Safari.I can give you an example of how i went about my safari, being my first safari in Africa.
I have been to Kenya for a safari and i was like you at first. I didn't know what to do but a friend directed me to the website where i found KATO (Kenya Assosiation tour Operaters)-it is the umbrela body that regulates tour operators in Kenya ,(www.katokenya.org),while browsing i came across All Seasons Safaris & Tours (www.allseasonssafaris.com)

They designed an intinerary for my safari which was so wonderful and my budget worked right for seven days wildlife safari.
Once in Kenya you can go to Masai Mara which is the best due to the great migration and you will find the big five here.You also can do camping at the Mara camp site,visit the Masai community where you will get to learn their culture and their life style.Amboseli on the southern part of Kenya is commonly known for the Maasai people coexisting with the wild animals the snow-capped mount kilimanjaro in the back drop on a clear sky.there is more in kenya cant mention all.but i can give you more destinations where you can have a look at their websites.
e.g Samburu game reserve:where it hosts some of the unique game and flora that are only available in the world.eg the Gerenuk,somali ostrich,Grevy's Zebra can only seen here,olso the unthinkable happend there,a Lioness adopted baby Oryx.

All the best with your safari and hope you will not get confused again since i have given you a hint.

Philoo,

That's interesting that you feel South Africa jumps to mind as the country of choice for a first safari.

For me I had Kenya in mind from Day 1 and then included Tanzania. South Africa was finally a destination after quite a few trips. Now I'm in the planning stages for back to Kenya.

Agree with atravelynn.

We went to Tanzania and Kenya several years ago and SA 2 years ago.

aknards,
where do you live? I can recommend an experienced travel agent in Atlanta. If you are traveling from there by any chance, let me know how to e-mail you directly and I'll put you in touch -- if you wish.
Samcat

Often nowadays when discussing safari to Africa, many immediately mention South Africa. But this is only since the end of Apartheid. Prior to that, SA was rarely, if ever, thought of.

For me, back in '95, plannning our first safari and even with a few choices (incl. Tanzania & Botswana or Zimbabwe which was then still a great option throughout the country), Kenya was the first thought and where we went.

samcat,

there's seems to be a lot of confusion here regarding my thread. my original post was 12/18/2007, not 2008.

i went to tanzania and zanzibar this past september, thanks to the help and support of many fodorites, one of whom i ended up traveling with.

if you're interesting in my trip report, it's: http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=4&tid=35165152

thanks, anyway, for your concern. someone's sure to read and benefit from it!

anita

It is overwhelming, I know. I just got back from my first trip there. I went with a friend and we talked to various travel agents (here is one who was very helpful - safari@skisavoie.com) but ultimately ended up planning our own trip. We spent time in Hermanus and Cape Town for the first week and then went to Thorny Bush and Sabi Sands for the second week. It was a perfect trip and there's very little I would change. When you go to the game reserves it is all-inclusive so the fact that you're traveling alone matters not at all. You'll meet other people. I recommend Chapungu Lodge in Thorny Bush which is not only beautiful but is geared toward a group atmosphere.
You can read details about my trip on my blog http://samanthahoffman.blogspot.com, and I'd be happy to answer any other questions you have. YOU WILL LOVE IT! It's the trip of a lifetime.